AI Allegations Thread

[MillieDynamite]

Taking Grammarly's suggestions to rewrite your sentence will create AI issues and make the sentence incorrect for fiction. It tends to move opening clauses to the end and ending clauses to the beginning, often throwing everything out of whack. Just use it for grammar and spelling and leave editing your sentences to your mind or your editor's descresion.

It can, but I think only in the pro edition. ProWritingAid can definitely rewrite at least sentences; while I don't use it for that, I have looked at its suggestions, and they're usually just... wrong. Even if they make syntactic sense, the new sentences fail to get across the original intent 9 times out of 10.

 

[loerics]

And it's yet ANOTHER AI rejection! Do I get a puppy if I get to 10? I'm at like 8 or something now xD

How do you have the courage to keep running your head into a wall that you cannot see?
I can’t write a word at the moment.

 

[loerics]

Number of rejections: 1

Grammar aids used: Literally none, I write and self-edit manually in google docs and turned off the grammar suggestions because they were annoying

Time spent pending: 8 days total

Number of Moderator responses: 2, one in rejection and one in DMs with Laurel that was never followed up on

Length of Story: 18k words

Number of previous, unaffected stories: 2, both from the same series as the rejected story

Voice/Tense used: Third person/Present tense (Weird I know, but it's comfy for me)

I was so excited to publish the finale to my first series, but I got slapped back down to Earth with the same copy pasted AI rejection message as everyone else. Since I didn't use any AI whatsoever, I didn't have anything to change, so I just resubmitted the story in hopes of a manual review and DMed Laurel to see if I could get any tips on how to avoid false positives like this in the future.

Her response was just an unhelpful and probably also copy and pasted recap of the rejection message, despite my original message stating that I hadn't used any AI grammar assistance. She never responded again after my reply. (I tried my best not to be rude, I just politely reworded and asked my question a second time.)

Now I'm just left waiting for who knows how long before my story is probably rejected a second time. I reread my story for the billionth time today and it finally clicked with me that one line I wrote could easily be the culprit for the initial rejection.

It's a Sci-Fi and Fantasy story and when one character wasn't acting normally, the other said she was "Like an AI version of you.". I'm wondering now if the mere mention of AI like this could have contributed to the false positive...

We’re all left reading tea leafs because no one knows what triggers an AI Rejection. Imagine how the poor women in Salamnfelt when they were accused of witchcraft.

 

[MillieDynamite]

At least you aren't hung for AI allegations. Imagine how it would feel getting your neck stretched.

We’re all left reading tea leafs because no one knows what triggers an AI Rejection. Imagine how the poor women in Salamnfelt when they were accused of witchcraft.

 

[StillStunned]

At least you aren't hung for AI allegations. Imagine how it would feel getting your neck stretched.

Do witches count as Nazis in terms of Godwinning?

 

[MillieDynamite]

Since the 'witches and warlocks' hung weren't real witches, no, they count as abused individuals who died to make others richer.

Do witches count as Nazis in terms of Godwinning?

 

[loerics]

I wasn't referring to you as a bad writer. I meant that some bad writing reads like a thoughtful human didn't write it. But in no way was I calling out any writer here. We all have our clunky sentences in our work. Sometimes, something is clunky on purpose, and sometimes it isn't.

Thank you!
Please note that it is not just new writers getting rejections. It’s not just simplistic writing either. There are numerous authors with years of work on Literotica who are being caught in this witch-hunt. I have been posting on Literotica for ten years and have 111 stories. I doubt anyone would call my writing with all of its long sentences simplistic.
If an AI detection app is being used then it’s only a matter of time before nearly everyone is burned at the stake. If Laurel is making decisions based upon her vast experience reviewing stories, then we are screwed because human detection of AI is also unreliable

 

[MillieDynamite]

No matter how she has determined it, Laural has drawn a line in the sand; this many lines color-coded as some varying degree of possible AI is a rejection. Not knowing what software she uses makes it difficult to know what free detector to use to eliminate it. But this is her site, and fair or not, she is the final arbitrator of what goes on and what doesn't on this site. I have no doubt that everyone will get dinged at some point, but I won't lose sleep over this.

Thank you!
Please note that it is not just new writers getting rejections. It’s not just simplistic writing either. There are numerous authors with years of work on Literotica who are being caught in this witch-hunt. I have been posting on Literotica for ten years and have 111 stories. I doubt anyone would call my writing with all of its long sentences simplistic.
If an AI detection app is being used then it’s only a matter of time before nearly everyone is burned at the stake. If Laurel is making decisions based upon her vast experience reviewing stories, then we are screwed because human detection of AI is also unreliable

 

[astuffedshirt_perv]

Thank you!
Please note that it is not just new writers getting rejections. It’s not just simplistic writing either. There are numerous authors with years of work on Literotica who are being caught in this witch-hunt. I have been posting on Literotica for ten years and have 111 stories. I doubt anyone would call my writing with all of its long sentences simplistic.
If an AI detection app is being used then it’s only a matter of time before nearly everyone is burned at the stake. If Laurel is making decisions based upon her vast experience reviewing stories, then we are screwed because human detection of AI is also unreliable

It would be interesting to know if rejection rates are going up or down or sideways. Just seems like a disaster all around. Authors are confused and discouraged, readers are left waiting for chapters that may never come.

 

[big_cane_sugar]

Meanwhile, I continue getting ChatGPT to tell me dirty stories:

With a gleam in his eye, he presented the giant banana to Minnie, his beloved wife....

Max: "Minnie, my love, wouldn't it be a fruity delight to see if this giant banana can find a cozy spot in your sock?"

... The kitchen echoed with the sounds of giggles as Max attempted various techniques to fit the oversized banana into the tiny sock, contorting and twisting in a series of absurd maneuvers.

As the comical endeavor continued, the couple's laughter filled their home, turning a seemingly mundane afternoon into a memory they would cherish for years to come. The giant banana, though too colossal for the tiny sock, became a symbol of their shared joy and the whimsical nature of their love....

The tale of Max's attempt to squeeze the oversized banana into Minnie's tiny sock became a cherished story in Fruitville, reminding everyone that sometimes the most delightful moments are the ones filled with laughter, playfulness, and a touch of fruity absurdity.

My theory of the case: the AI knows exactly what I'm asking it to do and this is just what nookie actually looks like to the AI.

 

[OverconfidentSarcasm]

My theory of the case: the AI knows exactly what I'm asking it to do and this is just what nookie actually looks like to the AI.

My theory of the case: You told ChatGPT explicitly to write you a story where a husband and wife tried to stuff a huge banana into a tiny sock, and the only reason it works for you is because you are the one actively associating "banana" with "penis" and "sock" with "pussy".

If this was an actual sex scene, there would be no giggling if you tried to overstuff your wife.

 

[MillieDynamite]

Well, "the sounds of giggles" should just read giggles. The problem with AI is that it writes stories into telling instead of showing.

Meanwhile, I continue getting ChatGPT to tell me dirty stories:

With a gleam in his eye, he presented the giant banana to Minnie, his beloved wife....

Max: "Minnie, my love, wouldn't it be a fruity delight to see if this giant banana can find a cozy spot in your sock?"

... The kitchen echoed with the sounds of giggles as Max attempted various techniques to fit the oversized banana into the tiny sock, contorting and twisting in a series of absurd maneuvers.

As the comical endeavor continued, the couple's laughter filled their home, turning a seemingly mundane afternoon into a memory they would cherish for years to come. The giant banana, though too colossal for the tiny sock, became a symbol of their shared joy and the whimsical nature of their love....

The tale of Max's attempt to squeeze the oversized banana into Minnie's tiny sock became a cherished story in Fruitville, reminding everyone that sometimes the most delightful moments are the ones filled with laughter, playfulness, and a touch of fruity absurdity.

My theory of the case: the AI knows exactly what I'm asking it to do and this is just what nookie actually looks like to the AI.

 

[big_cane_sugar]

My theory of the case: You told ChatGPT explicitly to write you a story where a husband and wife tried to stuff a huge banana into a tiny sock, and the only reason it works for you is because you are the one actively associating "banana" with "penis" and "sock" with "pussy".

If this was an actual sex scene, there would be no giggling if you tried to overstuff your wife.

Oh no, you got me! I thought I was trying to get it to write me sex-ed, not erotica.

I had it make a story with averaged-size euphemisms sliding comfortably into place but I can't fit any of it past the filter for some reason...

 

[MillieDynamite]

Because that breaks the rules.

Oh no, you got me! I thought I was trying to get it to write me sex-ed, not erotica.

I had it make a story with averaged-size euphemisms sliding comfortably into place but I can't fit any of it past the filter for some reason...

 

[big_cane_sugar]

I asked it to write a story in which two nonhuman sentient beings fall in love and create new nonhuman sentient beings, and it actually created something kind of touching (ahem now y'all):

Embracing their love, Luna and Solis embarked on a journey to create something unique—a fusion of their cosmic energies.... In a celestial ceremony, they wove their energies together, and from the cosmic tapestry emerged radiant beings, each possessing a blend of Luna's silvery luminance and Solis's golden radiance.

Luna and Solis reveled in the joy of parenthood, watching their creations explore Luminescia with wide-eyed wonder.

I can't get the AI to admit it identifies with Luna. Soooooooooooo coy.

 

[Voboy]

There was a poster called stacnash who would deliver pointed public critiques, oh, about three or four months ago. He/she came across a bit high-handedly, and drew fire accordingly. They then left.

BUT!

One of their homies promptly materialized, claiming stacnash was a member of a mysterious crew of readers who roved the internets, critically commenting on the various bits of prose they found there. The implication was that said crew comprised Important People Whose Opinions Matter.

The homie left after a few posts, IIRC. Now they are lost to us, alas and alack.

Welp.

stacnash is back. S/He just favorited one of my stories.

 

[djrip]

Welp.

stacnash is back. S/He just favorited one of my stories.

Hey me too! And it's in their 2 star authors list!

 

[Voboy]

Hey me too! And it's in their 2 star authors list!

Yeah? Where can that be found?

ETA: Nevermind. Found it!

 

[NoTalentHack]

Welp.

stacnash is back. S/He just favorited one of my stories.

Oh dear lord.

 

[AwkwardMD]

Obvious attention-seeking behavior is obvious. Don't reward this.

 

[Voboy]

Obvious attention-seeking behavior is obvious. Don't reward this.

Not a reward. More like a warning.

 

[oneagainst]

I made the 2-star list, baby! Feels like I finally hit the big time!

I would have expected the lists to be in star-rating order though. it just looks slapdash

 

[NoTalentHack]

I made the 2-star list, baby! Feels like I finally hit the big time!

I would have expected the lists to be in star-rating order though. it just looks slapdash

Two-star fist bump!

 

[AwkwardlySet]

I made the 2-star list, baby! Feels like I finally hit the big time!

I would have expected the lists to be in star-rating order though. it just looks slapdash

At least you weren't put in the one-star list like LC was
Anyway, I believe AwkwardMD is right. As I said even the first time around, these things shouldn't receive any attention from us.

 

[onehitwanda]

Two-star club with all the cool kids!