AI Allegations Thread

[MillieDynamite]

I mix sentence and paragraph lengths and have several one-sentence paragraphs in stories. Your writing should resemble a rollercoaster, both in pacing and in the structure of how you write. The AI shit I've seen has long, complex sentences and paragraphs and slight variation in that.

On the contrary, the more complex and advanced your writing becomes, the higher the risk of triggering flags. Simpler and less polished writing, on the other hand, keeps you away from danger. Using compound sentences, particularly those with three or more clauses, is the most susceptible to problems.

Short sentences with fewer commas significantly diminish the likelihood of attracting attention. I hope writers resist the temptation to alter their writing style just to appease the machine; this could turn into a literary nightmare.

 

[ShelbyDawn57]

I mix sentence and paragraph lengths and have several one-sentence paragraphs in stories. Your writing should resemble a rollercoaster, both in pacing and in the structure of how you write. The AI shit I've seen has long, complex sentences and paragraphs and slight variation in that.

I have learned to appreciate brevity in the right place. Even one word 'paragraphs.'

We have a great saying in software, 'white space is free.' In writing, you can use it for emphasis just as you would punctuation.

I doubt AI does that..

 

[aToyEnjoyer]

Number of rejections: 1

Grammar aids used: Literally none, I write and self-edit manually in google docs and turned off the grammar suggestions because they were annoying

Time spent pending: 8 days total

Number of Moderator responses: 2, one in rejection and one in DMs with Laurel that was never followed up on

Length of Story: 18k words

Number of previous, unaffected stories: 2, both from the same series as the rejected story

Voice/Tense used: Third person/Present tense (Weird I know, but it's comfy for me)

I was so excited to publish the finale to my first series, but I got slapped back down to Earth with the same copy pasted AI rejection message as everyone else. Since I didn't use any AI whatsoever, I didn't have anything to change, so I just resubmitted the story in hopes of a manual review and DMed Laurel to see if I could get any tips on how to avoid false positives like this in the future.

Her response was just an unhelpful and probably also copy and pasted recap of the rejection message, despite my original message stating that I hadn't used any AI grammar assistance. She never responded again after my reply. (I tried my best not to be rude, I just politely reworded and asked my question a second time.)

Now I'm just left waiting for who knows how long before my story is probably rejected a second time. I reread my story for the billionth time today and it finally clicked with me that one line I wrote could easily be the culprit for the initial rejection.

It's a Sci-Fi and Fantasy story and when one character wasn't acting normally, the other said she was "Like an AI version of you.". I'm wondering now if the mere mention of AI like this could have contributed to the false positive...

 

[AG31]

On the contrary, the more complex and advanced your writing becomes, the higher the risk of triggering flags. Simpler and less polished writing, on the other hand, keeps you away from danger. Using compound sentences, particularly those with three or more clauses, is the most susceptible to problems.

Short sentences with fewer commas significantly diminish the likelihood of attracting attention. I hope writers resist the temptation to alter their writing style just to appease the machine; this could turn into a literary nightmare.

How do you find out stuff like this? Where do you go? And do you have a theory as to why WritingWhatILike's style (as demoed in their other publications) might have been flagged?

 

[AG31]

I'm getting a stronger and stronger sense that there's no future in trying to spot AI generated fiction. I think we should create a category for it and just trust that most authors will be honest.

 

[NoTalentHack]

How do you find out stuff like this? Where do you go? And do you have a theory as to why WritingWhatILike's style (as demoed in their other publications) might have been flagged?

Here's a post where I summed up a lot of stuff: https://forum.literotica.com/threads/ai-rejection.1597700/post-98023495

 

[astuffedshirt_perv]

I'm getting a stronger and stronger sense that there's no future in trying to spot AI generated fiction.

That is what the experts have concluded.
No detectors "reliably distinguish between AI-generated and human-generated content." Then again, they are not trying to sell a product.

 

[XerXesXu]

This doesn't mean that humans can't be trained to reliably distinguish between AI and HI text. Put a literate human in a cage, beat them when they make less than X consecutive correct decisions, and only feed them when they make Y consecutive correct decisions, they will learn. The problem with AI models is the affordance/functional reward problem - they're not alive, have no needs and feel neither fear nor hunger.

I nominate MM as the trainer and EB as the subject; who should do the cooking (is the answer in the name)?

 

[aToyEnjoyer]

Number of rejections: 1

Grammar aids used: Literally none, I write and self-edit manually in google docs and turned off the grammar suggestions because they were annoying

Time spent pending: 8 days total

Number of Moderator responses: 2, one in rejection and one in DMs with Laurel that was never followed up on

Length of Story: 18k words

Number of previous, unaffected stories: 2, both from the same series as the rejected story

Voice/Tense used: Third person/Present tense (Weird I know, but it's comfy for me)

I was so excited to publish the finale to my first series, but I got slapped back down to Earth with the same copy pasted AI rejection message as everyone else. Since I didn't use any AI whatsoever, I didn't have anything to change, so I just resubmitted the story in hopes of a manual review and DMed Laurel to see if I could get any tips on how to avoid false positives like this in the future.

Her response was just an unhelpful and probably also copy and pasted recap of the rejection message, despite my original message stating that I hadn't used any AI grammar assistance. She never responded again after my reply. (I tried my best not to be rude, I just politely reworded and asked my question a second time.)

Now I'm just left waiting for who knows how long before my story is probably rejected a second time. I reread my story for the billionth time today and it finally clicked with me that one line I wrote could easily be the culprit for the initial rejection.

It's a Sci-Fi and Fantasy story and when one character wasn't acting normally, the other said she was "Like an AI version of you.". I'm wondering now if the mere mention of AI like this could have contributed to the false positive...

Update: Looks like I got approved on first resubmission! Took 9 days in pending.

Feeling better about the false allegation now, I think there is a big chance it got flagged just for my one mention of AI.

 

[XerXesXu]

I refer to this story https://www.literotica.com/s/miss-darling and this review by SD in Story Feedback. SimonDoom Review Thread | Page 2 - Literotica Discussion Board

This story’s been on Lit since 2008 and we can be sure it’s not generated by GPT. The AI detectors verify it’s a product of human intelligence, but the detectors which do sentence-by-sentence analysis, flag 30 to 40% of the sentences.

Here’s a sample of sentences flagged as AI on the first page:

• I first met her when I arrived for a staff meeting, three days before the start of the new school year.
• We arrived at the door to the conference room at the same time and our eyes met.
• "That I am," I replied, my eyes surreptitiously taking in her form.
• Her hair was a light shade of blonde, her lips full and very alluring.
• She had the kind of face that radiated innocence.
• Her body was well formed and soft looking, with pert breasts that poked out from the sleeveless blouse she wore in a most mouth watering way.
• She held out her right hand to me and I shook it.
• As I did, my eyes dropped to her left hand, taking a quick glance at the ring finger there.
• Having been divorced for just over two years now, I had not been in a serious relationship, or even a not-so-serious relationship for well over eight months.

If you’re having a problem with rejection, and you can see some commonality in these types of sentence, you may want to use many fewer of them.

 

[lilshymynx]

If you’re having a problem with rejection, and you can see some commonality in these types of sentence, you may want to use many fewer of them.

The solution for this problem is not for authors to change how they write in order to not be flagged by these "AI Detectors". The solution is for the site owners to recognize that the programs they are using are not reliable and change their practices. Authors SHOULD NOT "go along to get along" in this by compromising their art.

 

[awriterssojourn]

The solution for this problem is not for authors to change how they write in order to not be flagged by these "AI Detectors". The solution is for the site owners to recognize that the programs they are using are not reliable and change their practices. Authors SHOULD NOT "go along to get along" in this by compromising their art.

I posted on the AI Fiasco thread about my deep dive into the different detectors with my stories. I won't rewrite it all here, but I would agree with you and add that I don't think this is likely to change your outcomes even if you did it.

 

[XerXesXu]

Some further information:

Humans create more novelty than ChatGPT.

 

[u1u1u1]

Well, after minor struggles with one recent story and then major ones with another, my latest story was accepted at the first attempt. Probably helped that I gave up trying to describe what an orgasm feels like.

 

[grenefire]

I just had a story rejected for a 3rd time. I’m at a loss at this point. I’m tempted to just give up but I have already written the sequel and was working on part 3.

 

[grenefire]

It isn’t personal, but I get it. After several attempts I gave up on two completely written works and just have them sitting on my computer. It doesn’t exactly motivate me to keep writing more.

 

[RedFireBrand]

Got rejected again, first time I just resubmitted with an admin note, this time I sent a message on here. I use grammarly like others, mostly to add or remove commas. and to remove my overuse of 'really' and 'own' before I send it to an editor.

68 chapters posted with no issue, now this. just started a new series to get my mind working and this happens. anyone have backup sites to post on?

 

[SkyBubble]

Going to call you out on this. having someone or something call out grammatical errors like comma splices and run on sentences is essential to improving your skills. My mind immediately went to my high school English comp teacher and what she would do to my rough drafts. Marking them with that dastardly red pen of hers, pointing out all the things I did wrong. How else are we supposed to learn if not through the guidance of others. Do you use editors or beta readers? Same concept.

PWA, Grammarly, they are decent tools and, used judiciously, can help make you a better writer by making you aware of things you do repeatedly. Of course, if you blindly take their advice, or any other sources advice, with out reserve, you are abdicating your responsibility as the author of the work.

I own one of those "dastardly red pens."

 

[MillieDynamite]

I feel for you, Penguin.

Part 3 took a month to get published and I thought it stopped after part 4 went up with no issues, but having part 5 get flagged after being stuck in pending sucks. I've done everything Laurel said - including not using any form of grammar checker - yet here we are again. I've reached out to Laurel through PM again so we'll see, but I'm not holding my breath

I spent a month working on part 5. It's the longest part I wrote, probably my favourite one so far, and now I have to fight for it to be seen. It sucks.

 

[RedFireBrand]

And it's yet ANOTHER AI rejection! Do I get a puppy if I get to 10? I'm at like 8 or something now xD

I got another as well. started a new thread for myself.

 

[travelenman]

My story was rejected as it was deemed I had used AI to write it. This is not a complaint but a response to you kind people, and my opinion. Firstly, I use Grammarly to assist with spelling and punctuation, but I don't find Grammarly particularly useful in sentence structure writing erotica. I can assure you the storyline, characters, and events are all mine. I have published 18 stories previously, and I am not a great author, with few followers and an average score of 4. I write for the audience's benefit, and I have found that so far, Literotica is the best website for erotic stories, but I am not going to challenge and rule and accept the use of AI, which is not accepted by the moderators.

 

[KeithD]

My story was rejected as it was deemed I had used AI to write it. This is not a complaint but a response to you kind people, and my opinion. Firstly, I use Grammarly to assist with spelling and punctuation, but I don't find Grammarly particularly useful in sentence structure writing erotica. I can assure you the storyline, characters, and events are all mine. I have published 18 stories previously, and I am not a great author, with few followers and an average score of 4. I write for the audience's benefit, and I have found that so far, Literotica is the best website for erotic stories, but I am not going to challenge and rule and accept the use of AI, which is not accepted by the moderators.

There aren't "moderators" working the story side. There is only Laurel, as the sole submissions editor. Looks like your only recourse is to try to contact her directly, which can only happen via the "Conversation" mechanism [the envelope at the top right) on this page. Really sorry about that. No, it's not a good current condition here.

 

[travelenman]

There aren't "moderators" working the story side. There is only Laurel, as the sole submissions editor. Looks like your only recourse is to try to contact her directly, which can only happen via the "Conversation" mechanism [the envelope at the top right) on this page. Really sorry about that. No, it's not a good current condition here.

Thanks for your response Keith, but I am not going to chase this. As I said, I do this for fun, and it's really not worth the hassle.

 

[loerics]

That was a really well-worded and clear response from Laurel, and a suprisingly precise explanation of the issues in your rejected story (although you may disagree with her, you have to admit she's made it clear where she sees the issue with it)

I wonder whether she used Chat-GPT....

What? Hell no! I don’t understand her explanation. If I accept a Grammarly suggestion to insert a comma, delete extraneous words, or rearrange phrases in a sentence, the sentence is still mine. If Grammarly can write a story of even a paragraph from scratch, it is news to me c

 

[NoTalentHack]

What? Hell no! I don’t understand her explanation. If I accept a Grammarly suggestion to insert a comma, delete extraneous words, or rearrange phrases in a sentence, the sentence is still mine. If Grammarly can write a story of even a paragraph from scratch, it is news to me c

It can, but I think only in the pro edition. ProWritingAid can definitely rewrite at least sentences; while I don't use it for that, I have looked at its suggestions, and they're usually just... wrong. Even if they make syntactic sense, the new sentences fail to get across the original intent 9 times out of 10.