Below the belt

[BrightShinyGirl]

I think you meant fudgepacker, blowhole. A pudpacker is someone you would invite to Uranus.

I recently watched 9.11 FDNY on 60 minutes.
They interviewed firefighters who somehow survived the collapse of the WTC towers.
One of the questions they asked was, “What made you go up those stairs when you knew you probably weren’t coming back?”
They said they were in contact with the 911 operators who were in contact with those trapped and crying for help.
I wept at the heroism and senseless loss of life.

My point, if there is one, is that if this conflict goes on long enough, we risk a repeat performance.
For every terrorist leader bombed to perdition, another will take their place. You will never kill them all.
Once all the Palestinians are gone and Hezbollah is a memory, here come the Chechens. My nephew who served in Iraq in 2003 said the most effective snipers shooting at US troops were from Chechnya.
They know how to fuck things up.

After that there are lots of Muslims in Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan. Are you ok with killing them too?

Go for the gusto. Put the Nazi holocaust in the shade. Eclipse the mass starvation imposed by Stalin.
Set a new record.

Here’s another lame scripture quote for you, fuzz face. ‘If you live by the sword, you will die by it.’

Israel has no reason to fight the Chechens. Once Hezbollah is gone I expect we’ll seen an alliance between Lebanon and Israel.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Benjamin Netanyahu made a direct appeal to the Iranian people today to reject their Islamist leaders and ally with Israel in a future of peace and prosperity.

https://www.politico.eu/article/benjamin-netanyahu-iran-regime-change-video-israel-hezbollah-war/

“Our two ancient peoples, the Jewish people and the Persian people, will finally be at peace. Our two countries, Israel and Iran, will be at peace.”

His message of peace will likely resonate with many Persians who resent the what the fundamentalists have done to Iran over the last 50 years.

 

[DukeofPaducah]

Israel has no reason to fight the Chechens. Once Hezbollah is gone I expect we’ll seen an alliance between Lebanon and Israel.

Chechnya might have a reason to fight with Israel

 

[deckardB26354]

Benjamin Netanyahu made a direct appeal to the Iranian people today to reject their Islamist leaders and ally with Israel in a future of peace and prosperity.

https://www.politico.eu/article/benjamin-netanyahu-iran-regime-change-video-israel-hezbollah-war/

“Our two ancient peoples, the Jewish people and the Persian people, will finally be at peace. Our two countries, Israel and Iran, will be at peace.”

His message of peace will likely resonate with many Persians who resent the what the fundamentalists have done to Iran over the last 50 years.

I’m wondering how they would see it. Something tells me that BN’s speech won’t be broadcast in Iran—at least not in its entirety.

 

[Lazaran]

Benjamin Netanyahu made a direct appeal to the Iranian people today to reject their Islamist leaders and ally with Israel in a future of peace and prosperity.

https://www.politico.eu/article/benjamin-netanyahu-iran-regime-change-video-israel-hezbollah-war/

“Our two ancient peoples, the Jewish people and the Persian people, will finally be at peace. Our two countries, Israel and Iran, will be at peace.”

His message of peace will likely resonate with many Persians who resent the what the fundamentalists have done to Iran over the last 50 years.

A good message- A bad messenger.

Regardless of any future peace, Netanyahu will be the corrupt "strongman" Israeli Prime minister who owns 10/7. Just like G.W. Bush owns 9/11 and the financial crisis, etc, and DonOld owns J6 and the Derek Chauvin riots, etc.

Ultimately, they’re all total fuckups.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

A good message- A bad messenger.

Regardless of any future peace, Netanyahu will be the corrupt "strongman" Israeli Prime minister who owns 10/7. Just like G.W. Bush owns 9/11 and the financial crisis, etc, and DonOld owns J6 and the Derek Chauvin riots, etc.

Ultimately, they’re all total fuckups.

Does FDR own December 7th?

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Chechnya might have a reason to fight with Israel

Why would Chechnya attack Israel?

 

[Lazaran]

Does FDR own December 7th?

Yes. FDR failed in epic fashion.

I would also add: Netanyahu (etc) failed when he knew full well the level of threat on his border from past attacks - and surveillance today is light years ahead of what it was back in December 7 1941. Not to mention: The reports from those female IDF observers who warned that Hamas was engaging in some advanced dry runs of a major cross border exercise were ignored for "some" reason.

December 7, 1941 should have never happened - and October 7, 2023 definitely should have never happened; full stop.

 

[DukeofPaducah]

Does FDR own December 7th?

There’s an argument to be made that he should have seen it coming.
FDR was distracted by events unfolding in Europe.
Japan was a negotiating party at the Treaty of Versailles after WW I.
They walked out because their concerns and needs were ignored.
Their expansion into China and Southeast Asia was militaristic.
Their culture was ferocious when it came to warfare.
Sanctions imposed on them exacerbated the problem.

Ultimately Japan paid a heavy price.
Tokyo was firebombed and burned to ash.
Citizens were evaporated and died horrific deaths.
Not once, but twice.
Given their culture and self image, Japan considered itself invincible.
FDR clearly underestimated them.
History remembers him kindly, but yes, FDR should own WW II in the Pacific

 

[DukeofPaducah]

Why would Chechnya attack Israel?

Why would they kill US troops in Iraq?
But they did.

 

[ChloeTzang]

........You will never kill them all.

Yes, one can. Don't ever forget, we ended WW2 with 2 nuclear bombs, the only nuclear bombs ever used in war. We fire-bombed half of Germany and burned to death and incinerated hundreds of thousands of men, women and children. We more or less exterminated the American Indians. Of course we can do it again. Time and again you people forget the other America, the Quiet Americans who you take no notice of until we vote in a Trump or an Andrew Jackson, and when we do, you better get out of the way, because....solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant (they make a desert, and call it peace)

As always, the Romans have a quote for it.

 

[DukeofPaducah]

Yes, one can. Don't ever forget, we ended WW2 with 2 nuclear bombs, the only nuclear bombs ever used in war. We fire-bombed half of Germany and burned to death and incinerated hundreds of thousands of men, women and children. We more or less exterminated the American Indians. Of course we can do it again. Time and again you people forget the other America, the Quiet Americans who you take no notice of until we vote in a Trump or an Andrew Jackson, and when we do, you better get out of the way, because....solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant (they make a desert, and call it peace)

As always, the Romans have a quote for it.

Please see my reply to Bright Shiny Girl regarding FDR’s role in WWII.

I’m reluctant to take you seriously when you say you can kill them all.
Your lack of empathy is reminiscent of Charles Manson.

I have yet to meet a more bloodthirsty individual.

I don’t know your spiritual inclinations. They’re none of my business.
I can only guess that if reincarnation is a possibility, there’s a good chance you may come back as an
Oxpecker, dining on blood engorged ticks plucked from a Cape Buffalo’s ear.
Perhaps then you may finally get your fill.
Bon appétit.

 

[Rebel5soul]

Yes, one can. Don't ever forget, we ended WW2 with 2 nuclear bombs, the only nuclear bombs ever used in war. We fire-bombed half of Germany and burned to death and incinerated hundreds of thousands of men, women and children. We more or less exterminated the American Indians. Of course we can do it again. Time and again you people forget the other America, the Quiet Americans who you take no notice of until we vote in a Trump or an Andrew Jackson, and when we do, you better get out of the way, because....solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant (they make a desert, and call it peace)

As always, the Romans have a quote for it.

Well done.

It's interesting to read the missive's of those that have the future all mapped out, that mapping is all predicated on their preconceived notions of how their next step, 'B', necessarily follows 'A'.

 

[ll74]

Well done.

It's interesting to read the missive's of those that have the future all mapped out, that mapping is all predicated on their preconceived notions of how their next step, 'B', necessarily follows 'A'.

You seem to believe you think of things differently

 

[ChloeTzang]

Please see my reply to Bright Shiny Girl regarding FDR’s role in WWII.

I’m reluctant to take you seriously when you say you can kill them all.
Your lack of empathy is reminiscent of Charles Manson.

I have yet to meet a more bloodthirsty individual.

I don’t know your spiritual inclinations. They’re none of my business.
I can only guess that if reincarnation is a possibility, there’s a good chance you may come back as an
Oxpecker, dining on blood engorged ticks plucked from a Cape Buffalo’s ear.
Perhaps then you may finally get your fill.
Bon appétit.

That's the thing, you're being emotional about this. I'm just looking at history and and saying well, if we've done it before, we can do it again. After all, "we" killed a million civilians in Iraq without blinking. "We," as in Obama an Clinton, destroyed Syria and Libya, causing hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths, destroying relatively stable countries for what? Obama and Clinton tried to do the same to Eqypt and almost succeeded, but for the Egyptian Army stepping in. Biden has certainly done his best to destabilize the Middle East and he ensured the war in Ukraine got off to a good start by giving Putin the go ahead to begin with. These people START all these wars, but once these wars are started, what to you do?

Go all flippy floppy and weep crocodile tears. LOL.

 

[DukeofPaducah]

That's the thing, you're being emotional about this. I'm just looking at history and and saying well, if we've done it before, we can do it again. After all, "we" killed a million civilians in Iraq without blinking. "We," as in Obama an Clinton, destroyed Syria and Libya, causing hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths, destroying relatively stable countries for what? Obama and Clinton tried to do the same to Eqypt and almost succeeded, but for the Egyptian Army stepping in. Biden has certainly done his best to destabilize the Middle East and he ensured the war in Ukraine got off to a good start by giving Putin the go ahead to begin with. These people START all these wars, but once these wars are started, what to you do?

Go all flippy floppy and weep crocodile tears. LOL.

I look at security in terms of how it affects my family. I have nearly a coven of granddaughters, the youngest two are a pair of fine young cannibals. They mean a lot to me.
Any threats to them won’t be met with tears, crocodile or whatevs.

Threat perception is a broad spectrum for me. Bullies, predators, lunatics with AR-15s roaming school hallways are the tip of the iceberg. I include warlike spirits that keep the sentiment of ‘Death to America’ stoked.

I’m well aware of man’s potential inhumanity to his fellow. It’s an effort toward tribal supremacy.
Trump’s promise of mass deportations sounds ominously like Andrew Jackson’s Trail of Tears.
The ‘war’ in Iraq was an abominable waste of blood and treasure, over $1T and hundreds of thousands
Iraqi and allied troops’ lives, the decimation of an ancient Mesopotamian historical record and the birth of Isis.
Big Dick Cheney and his crew are war criminals in my eyes.

Don’t fret over my teary-eyed flip-flopping. If I find you complicit in escalating personal threat to me and mine, I promise to give you my full attention. The tears shed won’t be mine. LOL

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

I look at security in terms of how it affects my family. I have nearly a coven of granddaughters, the youngest two are a pair of fine young cannibals. They mean a lot to me.
Any threats to them won’t be met with tears, crocodile or whatevs.

Threat perception is a broad spectrum for me. Bullies, predators, lunatics with AR-15s roaming school hallways are the tip of the iceberg. I include warlike spirits that keep the sentiment of ‘Death to America’ stoked.

I’m well aware of man’s potential inhumanity to his fellow. It’s an effort toward tribal supremacy.
Trump’s promise of mass deportations sounds ominously like Andrew Jackson’s Trail of Tears.
The ‘war’ in Iraq was an abominable waste of blood and treasure, over $1T and hundreds of thousands
Iraqi and allied troops’ lives, the decimation of an ancient Mesopotamian historical record and the birth of Isis.
Big Dick Cheney and his crew are war criminals in my eyes.

Don’t fret over my teary-eyed flip-flopping. If I find you complicit in escalating personal threat to me and mine, I promise to give you my full attention. The tears shed won’t be mine. LOL

How do you feel about anti-Israel protesters chanting “death to America”?

 

[DukeofPaducah]

Please give more data.
Is it because we give them $$ and arms? We’re allies. They have the right to defend themselves.
Are they defending themselves? Or are they flattening hospitals, occupying territory and displacing civilians to refugee camps? It’s not so black and white to me.
Iranians use the slogan when they protest against the US giving shelter to the Shah when he fled their country with loot from their treasury. Iraqis use it when Shi’ites slaughter Sunnis and we watch.
As long as the sentiment percolates, I’ll be watching.

To paraphrase a useful tool, “You’re either for me, or against me.”

 

[Sappho_CGN]

The terrorists hide in between the so called civilians. It is the strategy of HAMAS to cause "civilian" victims to give people like you the possibility to yell antisemitic slogans and still feel good and pretend not being antisemitic.

Of course defends the IDF the Israelian people. What else are they doing? What would you do ... accept that your enemies kill, rape and plunder and accept that as it is difficult to decide who is a terrorist and who not? Really?

The support of HAMAS children-killer and raper by Western intelligenzia is based on Anti-Americanism and so called Anti-capitalism. In Germany you can clearly see that. The HAMAS supporting groups call themselves "progressive, socialistic, anticaptalistic" and the main enemy are the USA for them. Israel is from their view an appendix of the USA.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Terror attacks in Tel Aviv and Jaffa. People shot and stabbed at tram stops. At least 5 dead. Dozens of wounded.

 

[deckardB26354]

Terror attacks in Tel Aviv and Jaffa. People shot and stabbed at tram stops. At least 5 dead. Dozens of wounded.

…as Israel “defends” itself by going on the offensive by invading another country.

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/01/nx-s1-5134606/lebanon-israel-invasion-hezbollah-international-support

 

[lessOHmo]

…as Israel “defends” itself by going on the offensive by invading another country.

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/01/nx-s1-5134606/lebanon-israel-invasion-hezbollah-international-support

Stop whining

 

[ChloeTzang]

I look at security in terms of how it affects my family. I have nearly a coven of granddaughters, the youngest two are a pair of fine young cannibals. They mean a lot to me.
Any threats to them won’t be met with tears, crocodile or whatevs.

Threat perception is a broad spectrum for me. Bullies, predators, lunatics with AR-15s roaming school hallways are the tip of the iceberg. I include warlike spirits that keep the sentiment of ‘Death to America’ stoked.

I’m well aware of man’s potential inhumanity to his fellow. It’s an effort toward tribal supremacy.
Trump’s promise of mass deportations sounds ominously like Andrew Jackson’s Trail of Tears.
The ‘war’ in Iraq was an abominable waste of blood and treasure, over $1T and hundreds of thousands
Iraqi and allied troops’ lives, the decimation of an ancient Mesopotamian historical record and the birth of Isis.
Big Dick Cheney and his crew are war criminals in my eyes.

Don’t fret over my teary-eyed flip-flopping. If I find you complicit in escalating personal threat to me and mine, I promise to give you my full attention. The tears shed won’t be mine. LOL

That's the spirit! And most of that, I agree with.

Except for the deportations. We need those, all 30-50 million of them, or you can kiss the USA goodbye. We'll be a one party state in 10 years and/or fighting a civil war without those.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Terror attacks in Tel Aviv and Jaffa. People shot and stabbed at tram stops. At least 5 dead. Dozens of wounded.

Well, the solution is clear. Time to clear the West Bank of non-Israeli colonists. Deport them to their homeland. Jordan.

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[deckardB26354]

Stop whining

Shh…adults are talking.