The 50 Plus Cafe, Pub, All-Nite Greasy Spoon and Dive Bar

[HumpDayHoratio]

I thought of that. That pic I posted was from the bottom of your link

There was so much good T-shirt art from that era! I’d love to find a collection of the different Silk Screens of that time.

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

Chapped ass = really annoyed.


Welding projects at the farm = neverending


I was just going to start there first since it was simple. The idea that she spent money to get it fixed was/is a waste, and most of all, we had agreed that it didn't need doing before next year. And then she let him back my tractor in the hole in the back. The whole work can stay the fuck - and by "fuck," I mean all the fuck, not just part of it - off my damned tractor.

My dad was a welder. I kick myself that I never had him show me how to do it. I just remember looking at some of his work and now realize how good a bead he ran!

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

Ahem. Finally, a question my degree comes in useful for.....sadly nothing to do with my career.

The answer to your question depends on what sort of band. If the band is comprised amateur collective of musicians that existed for themselves, then I'd say the name dies out with the grouP

BUT:

Most commercially produced bands are entities themselves....a business....a brand. They may have certain "roles" that must be filled (a type of lead vocal or a specific guitar style ect.) but think of those things as positions in a company rather than the actual person filling that role. Does the All American Highschool Marching Band change its name when it's members graduate? Is Macy's no longer Macy's once the original employees change out? No and neither does Styx, Journey, ect.

Ok Nerd is done. Sorry lol

Pretty much agree w this with one caveat. If the band was stratospheric in popularity (Pink Floyd, Yes, Zep) then the name is retired when the last original member dies or hangs up the microphone cord.

I officially put that point of order out to be debated!

 

[Qky75]

Pretty much agree w this with one caveat. If the band was stratospheric in popularity (Pink Floyd, Yes, Zep) then the name is retired when the last original member dies or hangs up the microphone cord.

I officially put that point of order out to be debated!

Id counter that those identities may change in the audience mind but until the owning parties of that group retire the band ..it lives until it doesn't.

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

Id counter that those identities may change in the audience mind but until the owning parties of that group retire the band ..it lives until it doesn't.

A good case study was The Floyd. When Roger Waters left the group (or was kicked out?) in the early 80’s he assumed the name would be retired. Gilmour, Mason, and Wright had other plans and it went to court…all over whether they could keep the name without all members agreeing.

Judge ruled in the remaining bands favor and Pink Floyd lived with three of the original members (not including Syd B). So It does appear it “lives until it doesn’t!”

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

Not to beat a rented mule too hard but worth mentioning…

When I was stationed in Europe 30 yrs ago, many bands from the 60’s and 70’s were touring over there. Bands long forgotten on this side of the pond, but they lived on as traveling gigs with maybe one or two members who had some involvement with the bad when they were at their apogee. With some of the lower tier bands they were probably just happy the name lived on! Rock & Roll!

So, funny side bar. One of my squadron mates uncle just happened to be in one of those 70’s bands and was doing the summer Euro tour thing. They had all but quit touring in the States. They were a staple of 70’s radio…the guy may have looked like a pirate…. He was getting us tix, but we got deployed so never did catch him there…

 

[Greylag]

I wasn't much of a champagne drinking girl in college. That came later when I had money and a more refined palate!

I am happy to cater for a refined palate in return for nursing experience!

 

[Greylag]

Omg be careful... i am glad they were there with you.... would anyone come looking if you didn't show up somewhere....

Yes they wouldn't leave you out there but notice you wre missing. Thursday was funny as we got a dozen vehicles stuck in the peat. All had to be winched out

Long story but it was wetter than anyone expected!

It was the most exciting part of the day.

 

[Azuldrgon]

Good morning all.
Just finished a chapter before sending it to my muse.
Today's plans for the first part of my holiday weekend (Three day) include lab work before taking some me time this afternoon.
Downside is the place where my lab is that I am going to is next to a busy area of the town that hosts a huge state fair that started yesterday.
Good thing I am patient.

 

[Azuldrgon]

I'm in Western WA!

Me too.
I'm headed near a certain Fair today to do lab work.
Been up here since 1998.
Theoretically, my daughter (the one who's finger I am wrapped around) told me I lost my Southern credentials because we've been up here so long. lol.

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

Me too.
I'm headed near a certain Fair today to do lab work.
Been up here since 1998.
Theoretically, my daughter (the one who's finger I am wrapped around) told me I lost my Southern credentials because we've been up here so long. lol.

You never, ever lose your Southern cred!

 

[TomTeacher19]

You'll find many coffee addicts here, Tom. Then there are those of us who sit further away from the coffee pot!

I'll be needing a full pot myself this morning, please.

 

[TomTeacher19]

Is your leg better now, Tom?

Yes and no. The surgery took away the pain that had been constant and nearly left me in tears daily. But it also greatly reduced mobility and made it to where I kind of had to learn to walk again and many things are more challenging now (like stairs). Definitely worth it but it wasn't something that was going to be able to go back to 100% like it had been

 

[TomTeacher19]

Ahem. Finally, a question my degree comes in useful for.....sadly nothing to do with my career.

The answer to your question depends on what sort of band. If the band is comprised amateur collective of musicians that existed for themselves, then I'd say the name dies out with the grouP

BUT:

Most commercially produced bands are entities themselves....a business....a brand. They may have certain "roles" that must be filled (a type of lead vocal or a specific guitar style ect.) but think of those things as positions in a company rather than the actual person filling that role. Does the All American Highschool Marching Band change its name when it's members graduate? Is Macy's no longer Macy's once the original employees change out? No and neither does Styx, Journey, ect.

Ok Nerd is done. Sorry lol

That's an interesting take that really makes sense and resonates with me. The marching band not changing names even though they obviously change people is great. It's kind of like sports teams in that way too. Our discussion that raised this question here was definitely about a band more like Styx or journey, but those other points really make sense. I do kind of wonder if it matters who it is and what band specifically. Like with Queen, I believe they now list themselves as Queen with whoever is filling in Freddy Mercury's spot, not just Queen. And if the U2 ever tried to your without Bono, I can't see them just trying to say they were U2. Thanks.

 

[TomTeacher19]

Me too.
I'm headed near a certain Fair today to do lab work.
Been up here since 1998.
Theoretically, my daughter (the one who's finger I am wrapped around) told me I lost my Southern credentials because we've been up here so long. lol.

Best of luck. That certain Fair is a nightmare for traffic. But the scones are good.

 

[Qky75]

That's an interesting take that really makes sense and resonates with me. The marching band not changing names even though they obviously change people is great. It's kind of like sports teams in that way too. Our discussion that raised this question here was definitely about a band more like Styx or journey, but those other points really make sense. I do kind of wonder if it matters who it is and what band specifically. Like with Queen, I believe they now list themselves as Queen with whoever is filling in Freddy Mercury's spot, not just Queen. And if the U2 ever tried to your without Bono, I can't see them just trying to say they were U2. Thanks.

You bring up some very good points. What makes a business recognizable? Sometimes a persona is so strong that the band is forever tied to that musician and when that time is over it becomes clear to some owners there's no going forward. Others assume there is no way forward and find out there is! It's very much a case by case basis. One genius model I've seen recently is Marshmallow. Since nobody knows who they are, they could easily keep that show going as long as there's interest. For all we know the actual creator may have never stepped on the stage or there may be several individuals who rotate. Kiss and Ghost have done similar business models that allow for easy cast member changes.

 

[Qky75]

Also hello to everyone and I will reduce thread time lolol.

 

[TomTeacher19]

You bring up some very good points. What makes a business recognizable? Sometimes a persona is so strong that the band is forever tied to that musician and when that time is over it becomes clear to some owners there's no going forward. Others assume there is no way forward and find out there is! It's very much a case by case basis. One genius model I've seen recently is Marshmallow. Since nobody knows who they are, they could easily keep that show going as long as there's interest. For all we know the actual creator may have never stepped on the stage or there may be several individuals who rotate. Kiss and Ghost have done similar business models that allow for easy cast member changes.

Whoa I just had a wild thought reading this. It's the Princess Bride. If you have seen the movie, it's the dred pirate Roberts story. If you haven't seen it, you need to. It's a classic and one of the best and funniest movies ever.

 

[Azuldrgon]

Best of luck. That certain Fair is a nightmare for traffic. But the scones are good.

I haven't been there as a patron in years. I think it was Carrie Underwood's first concert.
I lived in South Hill for 18 yrs, so I knew the pain back then before I moved to where I am now.
Luckily, there's a few back ways I can use to get to where I am going.

 

[TomTeacher19]

I haven't been there as a patron in years. I think it was Carrie Underwood's first concert.
I lived in South Hill for 18 yrs, so I knew the pain back then before I moved to where I am now.
Luckily, there's a few back ways I can use to get to where I am going.

I live and work where the Fair traffic impacts my commute. Learning alternative routes is a must in September.

 

[Greylag]

Are you two cleaning up the thread? https://lh7-rt.googleusercontent.com/docsz/AD_4nXcoLjjbVInIcq1MNkAc-dtzsgUOlui1AWvckfjiMXhvOHWft2v5Nn4-hUbBpNH-Qm8K-vSMoOCLvxARFjZIF_zRQsxPwS9petvUd5C8R2Cfj_Mt19oJk7qRriHKEKS9YcN4xsqqLB4QjHxRNpH1m1FLalkL?key=jY9Az0Ixp_0zToql93IJFw I'm surprised you didn't clean me out! I do have a tendency to be crude and come across flirty at times. (or did I miss the que??? I am oblivious at times https://lh7-rt.googleusercontent.com/docsz/AD_4nXeKuZ0ouVIazS-ArGkis8OBSf3sJU7uAWrqj3YqYOFu7SFKAhOzJddjkhrPEGoXs1L_yk5gtNXKF04Afay-gFOdICaBNfn5nDeHWsorTA7dOZ5VpnzzU_oZHCZc9i7R8g-a1yinNGO6Uh1-afeeEakyylm8?key=jY9Az0Ixp_0zToql93IJFw )


Truth be told I don't know how not to be. I grew up with guy friends a group of them and we all were like this. My parents/grandparents tried to "DiNozzo slap" it out of me when I was in High School. Also, I have been trying to be better in here

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I am not having a problem with any of your posts. If a shy English Gentleman is okay well.......the others can speak for themselves.

 

[Missk_2022]

That’ll teach me to get 12 pages behind! . I wrote a nice welcome post, THEN, saw she wasn’t coming back…

Oh the easily offended…y’all just tried to do som splain’n!

She took offense where none was intended..... that is drama.....

 

[Wonderer67]

I do the same thing, especially when I'm taking moon shots. I need to weed out all the duplicates.

you said moon shots…. Heh heh



For years at every wedding it was “tradition” for me to take a moon shot. Remember in the olden days when people would have those disposable cameras on tables at the reception?

https://imgur.com/a/p0e30XN

 

[Wonderer67]

Thank you, W! I need to be reminded to do that. I'm not good about giving grace to myself.

Not many of us are.

But give yourself somma that grace. You deserve it.

 

[Wonderer67]

I'm not a fan of beer; I'd rather drink wine. However, I might have drunk my weight in beer every night of Oktoberfest my first year of college in Munich.

I didn’t know you went to school in Munich? That’s my company is HQ’ed. I usually go once every few years.

An amazing city!