Disrespect for the Dead in Arlington National Cemetery

[SmokingFap]

There should have been a venue change to assure a fair trial.

Blah. Blah. Blah.

 

[SmokingFap]

So, as I surmised earlier, they had PERMISSION;

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/saraharnold/2024/08/28/trump-npr-arlington-cemetary-n2644032


And some worker KAREN decided to try and stop them instead of checking with their boss.

But you FUCKWITS just had to vilify Trump. Because TDS runs rampant in your heads. You idjits are a waste off food, oxygen, and space.

The army disagrees with your harebrained assertion. Some of the families gave their "permission", which wasn't theirs to give. I can give permission to my buddies to come over for poker night at your house; doesn't mean you have to let them in. Trump and his team were previously and well informed of the laws and regulations that they would be violating if they attempted such a stunt. And the army defended that "Karen" for doing her job.

I hope someone indicts Trump for this shit, too.

 

[dkovic77]

No they didn't. The NY law that Trump was originally charged with was a book keeping misdemeanor charge that outran the statute of limitations. It was a sham trial.

Trump did not violate FEC regulations. Brad Smith was not allowed to testify before the Jury explaining in detail campaign finance law and how it affected Trumps defense.

Judge Merchan sharply limited what Trump's expert witness could testify about. Judges most often allow expert witness testimony to always give the Defense every opportunity to defend their client and to not appear prejudicial.

Merchan ruled that allowing Smith to testify expansively on the topic would supplant the Judge's role to determine what the law is. Expansive detailed testimony is what expert witnesses do. Merchan in this case had his thumb on the scale and denied the Trump team due process.

Sham trial, Merchan might as well have been sitting on the side of the prosecution rather than on the bench.

Remember how the statute of limitations were extended because of COVID? Just like your extension of magic shake flavors past their holidays… or you are just the fry man, you know nothing of that part of the store?

 

[icanhelp1]

He violated several FEC regulations. When the complaints against Trump were filed with the FEC the statute of limitations had not run out.

https://www.fec.gov/files/legal/murs/7313/7313_28.pdf

Republicans on the FEC blocked the investigation, but never said they didn’t think Trump did violate campaign finance laws.

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6353061612112

 

[icanhelp1]

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6353061612112

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6353061612112

https://www.ifs.org/expert-analysis...-the-weaponization-of-the-federal-government/

Chairman Bradley Smith Testifies at Hearing before the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government​

Furthermore, I am not here to testify about the propriety of a state district attorney bringing a case in state court that necessarily requires him to prove a violation of federal law. I am testifying about the substance of the Federal Election Campaign Act (“FECA”), and whether alleged violations of that Act support the verdict in the trial, the theory of the prosecutors, and the instructions of Judge Merchan. I believe the answer to that is clearly “no.” Further, I believe that allowing this prosecution to go forward, and the ultimate jury decision, threaten the enforcement procedures established by Congress under the FECA and stretch the meaning of the statute in such a way as to threaten due process of law.

Before I explain why, I want to quickly clarify one issue. It has been widely reported that Judge Merchan refused to let me testify as an expert witness at the trial.[1] This is not quite correct. The judge would have allowed me to testify. However, it was clear from his pre-trial rulings that such testimony would be limited to little, or perhaps nothing, more than reading portions of the statute to the jury, and given those rulings, the defense chose not to call me to the stand. It is fair to say that Judge Merchan refused to allow any meaningful testimony that would have contextualized the charges against Mr. Trump and provided valuable factual information to the jury, and I believe his restrictive rulings were erroneous. In my testimony today, I will at times draw legal conclusions about the law. Such legal conclusions go beyond what I would have testified to. My testimony would not have been instructing the jury on the law of the case—but as I will explain, it would have offered relevant context that, I believe, would quite likely have led the jury to a proper, legally correct reading of the law and a “not guilty” verdict.
Further more;
In fact, Donald Trump and/or the Trump for President campaign had plenty of cash to pay for the Daniels non-disclosure agreement on October 27, 2016. They did not need money in order to pay Daniels. Further, even assuming the expense was a campaign expenditure, no public disclosure of the expense would have been legally required before the election. As a practical matter then, having Michael Cohen front the money for a non-disclosure agreement between Mr. Trump and Stormy Daniels could have had no influence on the 2016 election. This undercuts the entire theory of the case offered by the prosecution.

Further—and to me the important principle of campaign finance law—is that any payments to Daniels were not, and should not be, considered campaign expenditures in the first instance, and thus cannot support a finding of a FECA violation.


Now back on topic

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

yeah the Arlington incident blown way out of proportion from what i have seen and read. The dems have done nothing for veterans and that is a fact you may hate that but its the truth.
For every 1 biden/harris person I see at the VFW there are 10-14 trumpers and its not even close. The dems need to focus on americans and keeping jobs here and not funding endless regime changing wars and opening the southern border where crime has spiked same with drugs pouring in. And they are not reporting a lot of what is going on so your data about items lessening is total bullshit

Donald Trump is now accusing the gold star families that invited him to Arlington of setting him up.

 

[Bray123]

He doesn't care about them, he just wants their votes.

 

[Aglaopheme]

It doesn’t matter when the filing happened. Whether is was before or after the election, it’s still a violation. The payments were made prior to the election to stop the stories from coming out.

Hope that helps!

 

[butters]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...p&cvid=5ef1b3bb846e4cc69ed2196282a69fa5&ei=31

Utah Gov. Spencer Cox (R) issued a mea culpa Wednesday for sending out a campaign email with a photo of him and Donald Trump at Virginia’s Arlington National Cemetery ― a visit mired in controversy after Trump staff and a cemetery employee reportedly got into an altercation over taking photos and video on the grounds.

He blames his staff. Yeah, right.

Cox apologized after catching flak for the campaign email, which featured an image of him and the presidential candidate at the grave of one of 13 service members who died when the U.S. pulled out of Afghanistan in 2021. The email included a message asking Cox’s supporters to honor the service members’ memory, as well as a link to donate to his reelection campaign.

“This was not a campaign event and was never intended to be used by the campaign. It did not go through the proper channels and should not have been sent. My campaign will be sending out an apology,” Cox posted on X, formerly Twitter, when it was pointed out that the cemetery forbids the use of its grounds for political and campaign purposes.

they do whatever the hell they like, and either deny or deflect and point at others to blame if people don't like what's been done. the trumplican way.

 

[icanhelp1]

The army disagrees with your harebrained assertion. Some of the families gave their "permission", which wasn't theirs to give. I can give permission to my buddies to come over for poker night at your house; doesn't mean you have to let them in. Trump and his team were previously and well informed of the laws and regulations that they would be violating if they attempted such a stunt. And the army defended that "Karen" for doing her job.

I hope someone indicts Trump for this shit, too.

First, there is no prohibition against taking photos with family members at ANC. Trump did cross the line and violated 32 CFR 553.3 (c) posting a TIC Tok video criticizing Biden’s withdrawal from Afghanistan, that was a political statement and violated section C of the rules. It was tasteless and political. That being said, Trump was invited by the families to attend the ceremony. Trump was in constant communication with the families right from the start sharing their grief, communicating with them by phone and visiting with them. Trump has always genuinely cared for those families and cared genuinely Aug 26 at ANC. Forgive me if the date is incorrect. TDS seems to cloud objectivity and verity. Where was the outrage when Biden used ANC twice for political reasons, once for a campaign video before the 2020 election cycle and once during a Memorial Day speech touting his signing of the Pact Act, which by all accounts, is a political statement. Point to me where Biden as CiC made any attempt to contact the families of those fallen heroes, to console them, to talk to them, to meet with them. He didn’t. Trump was wrong but at least he made an attempt. Biden was AWOL. NPR has been a left wing catalyst for selective outrage promoting TDS.

 

[Rightguide]

Once again you succeeded in making yourself look stupid.

A daily occurrence.

 

[Rightguide]

No they didn't. The NY law that Trump was originally charged with was a book keeping misdemeanor charge that outran the statute of limitations. It was a sham trial.

Trump did not violate FEC regulations. Brad Smith was not allowed to testify before the Jury explaining in detail campaign finance law and how it affected Trumps defense.

Judge Merchan sharply limited what Trump's expert witness could testify about. Judges most often allow expert witness testimony to always give the Defense every opportunity to defend their client and to not appear prejudicial.

Merchan ruled that allowing Smith to testify expansively on the topic would supplant the Judge's role to determine what the law is. Expansive detailed testimony is what expert witnesses do. Merchan in this case had his thumb on the scale and denied the Trump team due process.

Sham trial, Merchan might as well have been sitting on the side of the prosecution rather than on the bench.

It's amazing how many times one has to explain the simple facts of the matter to the willfully ignorant.

 

[SmokingFap]

First, there is no prohibition against taking photos with family members at ANC.

Actually, that particular area was RESTRICTED for photo ops, and the Trump campaign knew that. Those families don't get to decide what laws and regulations apply. Also remember that Trump is a private citizen now. Oh, and a 34x convicted felon and adjudicated rapist, among his many other crimes, both criminal and civil. He shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the graves of our fallen heroes.

Trump did cross the line and violated 32 CFR 553.3 (c) posting a TIC Tok video criticizing Biden’s withdrawal from Afghanistan, that was a political statement and violated section C of the rules. It was tasteless and political.

His people also immediately made a campaign video out of the footage. Absolutely disgusting.

That being said, Trump was invited by the families to attend the ceremony.

Again, completely irrelevant. Just because a family invites you to do something illegal doesn't mean you can do it.

Trump was in constant communication with the families right from the start sharing their grief, communicating with them by phone and visiting with them. Trump has always genuinely cared for those families and cared genuinely Aug 26 at ANC.

Given the way he's spoken about gold star families, his own generals, an actual war hero, John McCain, and dead troops in general (suckers and losers), he's proven he has near-absolute disdain and disregard for our military, unless they serve some political or personal purpose for him. This stunt was just another example.

Forgive me if the date is incorrect. TDS seems to cloud objectivity and verity. Where was the outrage when Biden used ANC twice for political reasons, once for a campaign video before the 2020 election cycle and once during a Memorial Day speech touting his signing of the Pact Act, which by all accounts, is a political statement.

I don't remember those instances, and I've been on Lit for less than two years. I assume you have citations for your claims.

Point to me where Biden as CiC made any attempt to contact the families of those fallen heroes, to console them, to talk to them, to meet with them. He didn’t.

I haven't seen any evidence that Biden has contacted those particular families. But in general, he has shown complete reverence and respect to our military and their families.

Trump was wrong but at least he made an attempt. Biden was AWOL. NPR has been a left wing catalyst for selective outrage promoting TDS.

Biden may indeed have dropped the ball in this situation. But there's no selective outrage. Virtually everything Trump does is disgusting and unAmerican. The outrage is infinitely broad and perfectly justified.

 

[SmokingFap]

It's amazing how many times one has to explain the simple facts of the matter to the willfully ignorant.

Kinda like explaining to you tards ad nauseam that whether you like it or not, whether you agree with it or not, Trump was convicted for 34 felonies by a jury of his peers. I'm not sorry they couldn't find 10 rich former game show hosts who had previously been adjudicated as frauds and rapists.

 

[Rightguide]

It doesn’t matter when the filing happened. Whether is was before or after the election, it’s still a violation. The payments were made prior to the election to stop the stories from coming out.

Hope that helps!

Except they were misdemeanors and the statute of limitations on prosecution had already run out.

 

[icanhelp1]

Actually, that particular area was RESTRICTED for photo ops, and the Trump campaign knew that. Those families don't get to decide what laws and regulations apply. Also remember that Trump is a private citizen now. Oh, and a 34x convicted felon and adjudicated rapist, among his many other crimes, both criminal and civil. He shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the graves of our fallen heroes.

His people also immediately made a campaign video out of the footage. Absolutely disgusting.

Again, completely irrelevant. Just because a family invites you to do something illegal doesn't mean you can do it.

Given the way he's spoken about gold star families, his own generals, an actual war hero, John McCain, and dead troops in general (suckers and losers), he's proven he has near-absolute disdain and disregard for our military, unless they serve some political or personal purpose for him. This stunt was just another example.

I don't remember those instances, and I've been on Lit for less than two years. I assume you have citations for your claims.

I haven't seen any evidence that Biden has contacted those particular families. But in general, he has shown complete reverence and respect to our military and their families.

Biden may indeed have dropped the ball in this situation. But there's no selective outrage. Virtually everything Trump does is disgusting and unAmerican. The outrage is infinitely broad and perfectly justified.

TDS becomes you.

 

[SmokingFap]

TDS becomes you.

You're dismissed, retard.

 

[Rightguide]

Kinda like explaining to you tards ad nauseam that whether you like it or not, whether you agree with it or not, Trump was convicted for 34 felonies by a jury of his peers. I'm not sorry they couldn't find 10 rich former game show hosts who had previously been adjudicated as frauds and rapists.

34 instances of the same misdemeanor on which the statute of limitations had already run out years ago.

 

[SmokingFap]

34 instances of the same misdemeanor on which the statute of limitations had already run out years ago.

As we've explained to you a dozen times, the prosecution was able to find a loophole that extended the statute of limitations. I know you think that's unfair, and no one gives a fuck.

 

[Pad_Foot]

Huge loophole in that the dude was ‘resident for four years. This should extend all criminal prosecutions!! Period!
Especially if the case never gets to court
That is election interference! The people need all the facts
With ‘rump we already heard the facts thanks to the House which is powerless! That was a waste of time.. multiple times
The Supreme Court is wrong! There are no Checks and Balances if a minority has all the power.
Let his fellow citizens decide !
Oh wait!! Grand juries already did decide and one f’d up loose canon. Did we vote for her???

 

[deckardB26354]

It was tasteless and political.

Quit here while you’re ahead. Trump is nothing if not tasteless. I mean what kind of insensitive, classless, fucktard stands over the grave of a soldier that he helped put there, grinning like the village idiot that he is with his tiny fucking thumb up?

On top of that, this piece of orange shit actually has the nerve to defile the Medal of Honor by saying some (now) worthless medal of freedom that he gave to some billionaire cunt that gave him a bucket of cash is more important than our nation’s highest honor that can be bestowed on a member of the military—given for bravery, courage, and service to this country.

This motherfucker is going to get a massive amount of shit dumped on his landfill/tomb on that happy day when he finally gets planted. They better have a 100 ft. high border fence around that fucking place because even a drone can do an airdrop.

 

[Bray123]

All those sour grapes that the cultards keep chewing on were explored at length during the trial.

 

[Bray123]

Quit here while you’re ahead. Trump is nothing if not tasteless. I mean what kind of insensitive, classless, fucktard stands over the grave of a soldier that he helped put there, grinning like the village idiot that he is with his tiny fucking thumb up?

On top of that, this piece of orange shit actually has the nerve to defile the Medal of Honor by saying some (now) worthless medal of freedom that he gave to some billionaire cunt that gave him a bucket of cash is more important than our nation’s highest honor that can be bestowed on a member of the military—given for bravery, courage, and service to this country.

This motherfucker is going to get a massive amount of shit dumped on his landfill/tomb on that happy day when he finally gets planted. They better have a 100 ft. high border fence around that fucking place because even a drone can do an airdrop.

He'll be buried on top of Ivana. Controlling in life, after her death and after his death.
Money, glory and control, nothing else matters.

 

[Pad_Foot]

My drone will go higher than 100 ft
Heck! Set up a business renting drones!
Set up a drop off for doggy poop bags! You’d make millions !
Set up a drone defense system for his klan to pay to use!

Like Evita Peron, you know he will insist his klan makes the biggest pyramid in history for him! His physical remains will be fine. His soul??

 

[RoryN]

TDS becomes you.

That made no sense.

And this is racist:

I wonder if it's all those black daddies living by the 4 fs ( find them, feel them, fuck them, forget them ).

Post in thread 'The real badbabysitter finally revealed..' https://forum.literotica.com/threads/the-real-badbabysitter-finally-revealed.1504564/post-90980000

blacks have a higher propensity of violence than all races combined.

Post in thread 'If America Is Racist, Why Have Millions of Blacks Emigrated Here?' https://forum.literotica.com/thread...f-blacks-emigrated-here.1547263/post-93907526