Remember when Rightguide whined "The California fast food market is collapsing!" Yeah, about that...

[RobDownSouth]

In April 2024, The state of California raised the minimum wage of fast food workers from $15.50 per hour to $20 per hour?

The usual suspects (@HisArpy, @Rightguide and the recently banhammered Censurat) loudly proclaimed the end of freedom as we know it. An industry press release of the loss of 10,000 jobs (many of them part-time in-house delivery drivers) was presented as "proof" of the upcoming fast food apocalypse.

The state of California published employment statistics this week...and guess what?

The state of California actually added a net 11,000 new fast food jobs since the law was enacted in April.

The state also noted that employers were happy now because they could attract higher caliber of job applicants at that wage AND job turnover had decreased significantly.

Prices ARE higher, as the "but,,,but,..." crew will undoubtedly claim, but prices are higher across the board in America and fast food foot traffic is dwindling nationwide. Chains are countering with "value meal deals", it remains to be seen if they will work.

This prediction from Lit's smug paraplegic paralegal did not age particularly well

The main problem is that they followed their usual methodology and failed to consider the consequences of their actions. Welp, them chickens is coming home to roost and there's literally NO ONE to blame except themselves.

Their realization that they fucked themselves must sting like a mother. Ain't it wonderful?

as well as this bit of his usual pearl clutching...

Meanwhile those who work for McDonald's go hungry and homeless because they lost their jobs.

And who can forget the whining of the guy who had to move from California because he couldn't afford the rent...

Dumb idea to raise the Minimum Wage to $20. Then again, all Democrats are dumb.

Who is the dummy now? Hmmm?

Doom and Gloom seem to be his stock-in-trade

The fast food market in California is collapsing...

 

[Rightguide]

Recall these numbers are based on Gov, Newsom's administration numbers in an election year. My prediction, they will go the same way almost a million of Joe Biden's employment numbers just went.

A hint as to why this might be true is the simple fact that so many fast-food businesses have simply closed down and have not reopened.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Recall these numbers are based on Gov, Newsom's administration numbers in an election year. My prediction, they will go the same way almost a million of Joe Biden's employment numbers just went.

A hint as to why this might be true is the simple fact that so many fast-food businesses have simply closed down and have not reopened.

Apology accepted. I bet you wish you hadn't slunk out of California now!
Not a lot to do up there in Idaho, I would imagine.
Got enough firewood for the winter yet?
Found a doctor who will take Medicare?

 

[Saint_Ann]

No wait in any restaurants around here. People can't afford to eat out. Those jobs will dry up. Book it.

 

[icanhelp1]

Recall these numbers are based on Gov, Newsom's administration numbers in an election year. My prediction, they will go the same way almost a million of Joe Biden's employment numbers just went.

A hint as to why this might be true is the simple fact that so many fast-food businesses have simply closed down and have not reopened.

Then there’s this


https://www.kcra.com/article/california-fast-food-law-impacts/61559027

California fast food workers now earn $20 per hour. Franchisees are responding by cutting hours​

LOS ANGELES —
Lawrence Cheng, whose family owns seven Wendy’s locations south of Los Angeles, took orders at the register on a recent day and emptied steaming hot baskets of French fries and chicken nuggets, salting them with a flourish.

Cheng used to have nearly a dozen employees on the afternoon shift at his Fountain Valley location in Orange County. Now he only schedules seven for each shift as he scrambles to absorb a dramatic jump in labor costs after a new California law boosted the hourly wage for fast food workers on April 1 from $16 to $20 an hour.

 

[icanhelp1]

Recall these numbers are based on Gov, Newsom's administration numbers in an election year. My prediction, they will go the same way almost a million of Joe Biden's employment numbers just went.

A hint as to why this might be true is the simple fact that so many fast-food businesses have simply closed down and have not reopened.

How many of those 11,000 jobs were downsized to part time employment? Just curious.

 

[YDB95]

California fast food workers now earn $20 per hour. Franchisees are responding by cutting hours​

Anyone who has ever worked in fast food in any state can tell you the management is rarely very good. Besides, what you are highlighting here isn't anything borne out of necessity, but rather greed.

 

[icanhelp1]

Anyone who has ever worked in fast food in any state can tell you the management is rarely very good. Besides, what you are highlighting here isn't anything borne out of necessity, but rather greed.

Most fast food jobs are entry level jobs. They’re certainly not experienced enough to understand business sense. Fast food Businesses are not in business to lose money.

This article seems to provide a different take.

https://www.inc.com/bruce-crumley/c...d-wage-gives-business-owners-indigestion.html

Fast food wages in California rose to a minimum $20 an hour on Monday, and it's proving tough for both franchise owners and small restaurateurs to swallow the results. Those entrepreneurs are adjusting to a law that mandates a 25 percent increase in the minimum rate paid to fast food employees. They are also trying to figure out exactly who is required to apply a legal measure with criteria, complexity, and sometimes puzzling provisions that are difficult to digest.

Since Monday's application of AB 1228--the California bill signed into law last September that requires a $20 hourly minimum wage for fast food workers, above the $16 rate for other employees--business owners have been grappling with its impact. Even without its confounding complexities of just which companies are covered, the measure has lots for affected entrepreneurs to dislike, especially the hefty increase in labor costs. Restaurant chains like McDonald's, Wingstop, Jack in the Box, and Chipotle have already said they'll be forced to pass those costs on to customers through price hikes--which won't excite diners, either.

 

[Chernosoth]

Eating fast food is suicide. Carry on with the natural selection.

 

[YDB95]

Restaurant chains like McDonald's, Wingstop, Jack in the Box, and Chipotle have already said they'll be forced to pass those costs on to customers through price hikes--which won't excite diners, either.

The key word being "said". Besides, it wouldn't be such a bad thing if most of us ate less fast food.

 

[icanhelp1]

The key word being "said". Besides, it wouldn't be such a bad thing if most of us ate less fast food.

Classic deflection, exactly what I expected from you.

 

[YDB95]

Classic deflection, exactly what I expected from you.

It's not deflection. You said, and I quote, "Restaurant chains like McDonald's, Wingstop, Jack in the Box, and Chipotle have already said they'll be forced to pass those costs on to customers through price hikes." In other words, your entire argument rests on nothing more than what some corporate shills said, and for good measure it's the same thing business bigwigs have been saying about minimum wages for a hundred years. They haven't demonstrated in any way that they'll have to raise prices to get by, they've just said that.

McDonald's had a net profit of over 31% last quarter, over $2 billion in raw numbers. The minimum wage increase amounts to $180 more per week if you work 40 hours (which most fast food line workers don't). You don't even really need to do the math beyond that to see they don't really have to pass the price hikes on to consumers, they just think they can get away with doing so.

 

[Rightguide]

Apology accepted. I bet you wish you hadn't slunk out of California now!
Not a lot to do up there in Idaho, I would imagine.
Got enough firewood for the winter yet?
Found a doctor who will take Medicare?

^^^
What a clueless idiot.

 

[RobDownSouth]

^^^
What a clueless idiot.

Would you say it was my firewood comment or your inability to find a Medicare doctor that triggered you the most this morning

 

[Rightguide]

How many of those 11,000 jobs were downsized to part time employment? Just curious.

Probably many. Here's another factor:

McDonald's says fast food sales are suffering most in California​

Grace Dean
Aug 1, 2024, 2:14 AM PDT

https://www.businessinsider.com/mcd...ffer-most-in-california-wage-hike-2024-7?op=1

It stands to reason that a mandated 25% pay raise causing major price increases on menu items would reduce sales not increase sales, and of course it has. Going forward, this mandated pay raise will affect all businesses especially those with collective bargaining contracts as unions will be looking at the $20 per hour figure as a new negotiation baseline number in their wage progression schedules.

 

[ll74]

Probably many. Here's another factor:

McDonald's says fast food sales are suffering most in California​

Grace Dean
Aug 1, 2024, 2:14 AM PDT

https://www.businessinsider.com/mcd...ffer-most-in-california-wage-hike-2024-7?op=1

It stands to reason that a mandated 25% pay raise causing major price increases on menu items would reduce sales not increase sales, and of course it has. Going forward, this mandated pay raise will affect all businesses especially those with collective bargaining contracts as unions will be looking at the $20 per hour figure as a new negotiation baseline number in their wage progression schedules.

I bought a quarter pounder the other day to support the cause

I'm sure right wingers will find a reason to boycott.

 

[Rightguide]

Would you say it was my firewood comment or your inability to find a Medicare doctor that triggered you the most this morning

The entire post is a fantasy-oriented activity on your part. Plunging into this escapism and delusional belief impairs your judgment and widens the distance between you and reality.

 

[Rightguide]

I bought a quarter pounder the other day to support the cause

I'm sure right wingers will find a reason to boycott.

You left a ten-dollar tip as well, right.

 

[ll74]

You left a ten-dollar tip as well, right.

If I did, why would that matter to you?

 

[SmokingFap]

Probably many. Here's another factor:

McDonald's says fast food sales are suffering most in California​

Grace Dean
Aug 1, 2024, 2:14 AM PDT

https://www.businessinsider.com/mcd...ffer-most-in-california-wage-hike-2024-7?op=1

It stands to reason that a mandated 25% pay raise causing major price increases on menu items would reduce sales not increase sales, and of course it has. Going forward, this mandated pay raise will affect all businesses especially those with collective bargaining contracts as unions will be looking at the $20 per hour figure as a new negotiation baseline number in their wage progression schedules.

Seems to me that raising the wages for all those workers means that they can afford to eat at better restaurants than they work in. Which means McDonald's may see a slight dip in demand, but Outback Steakhouse may see a corresponding increase from demand, which would force them to increase their hiring. See, a rising tide lifts all boats. Except maybe McDonald's multibillion dollar yacht.

 

[Rightguide]

Seems to me that raising the wages for all those workers means that they can afford to eat at better restaurants than they work in. Which means McDonald's may see a slight dip in demand, but Outback Steakhouse may see a corresponding increase from demand, which would force them to increase their hiring. See, a rising tide lifts all boats. Except maybe McDonald's multibillion dollar yacht.

The demographic that regularly frequents fast food establishments is dropping off as prices rise beyond their ability to pay and because of that won't be contributing to the sales of higher-end eating establishments, i.e., their boat is swamped.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

The demographic that regularly frequents fast food establishments is dropping off as prices rise beyond their ability to pay and because of that won't be contributing to the sales of higher-end eating establishments, i.e., their boat is swamped.

Perfect, there are far to many American's eating fast food. This kills two birds with one stone, it will cut in to "profit margin's" and help combat obesity in America.

Win Win!!

 

[Saint_Ann]

Somebody has to employ sll those out of work actors.

 

[RobDownSouth]

The entire post is a fantasy-oriented activity on your part. Plunging into this escapism and delusional belief impairs your judgment and widens the distance between you and reality.

Look, you're suffering.

We get that.

Life has become an utter shitshow for you.

Yes it was bad in California for you, but nobody could have predicted what an utter dystopian hellscape Idaho turned out to be for you.

You're reduced to a lifestyle consisting primarily of scavenging rotting potatoes from factory farms. Yes, we know you caught a rainbow trout back in June, but that's about the extent of your protein intake.

The internet is your only friend.

Swallow your pride and start a GoFundMe to help you alleviate your obvious fiscal shortages.

And please, don't stop trying to find mental health professionals in Idaho who take Medicare. Given that so many aged mentally ill boomers such as yourself cling to this sad illusion that they can live "off the grid" in Idaho, there is bound to be some sort of help available.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Eating fast food is suicide. Carry on with the natural selection.

Ditto you forgoing vaccinations.
Natural selection indeed.
But you "did your research"