Confusing Rejection

[BobbyBrandt]

I am not accustomed to my stories being rejected upon submission since it has never happened before. Even if it had, I find the stated reason for a recent rejection very confusing:

"As stated in our FAQ, we do not publish celeb/fanfic stories in which the characters are artificially aged - that is, under 18 years old in reality or in the source material, but made to be over 18 for the story. Please see our FAQ for full guidelines: https://literotica.com/faq/publishing/publishing-guidelines."

The celebrity in question is currently 52 years old. At the time of the tale (1990), she had just turned eighteen, which was clearly explained. I even placed a note to the admin that all characters are over 18 but understood that mentioning "high school", and "Seventeen" magazine might trigger some false concerns over the characters' ages. I cannot fathom where "characters are artificially aged" could be construed. There was no sexual activity involving this character until after her 18th birthday. I have written several stories with similar "wait till their eighteen" plots without issue.

I'm hoping that Laurel can clarify this in the PM I sent her, but if anyone else has experience with this type of rejection, please share it.

 

[NotWise]

I am not accustomed to my stories being rejected upon submission since it has never happened before. Even if it had, I find the stated reason for a recent rejection very confusing:

"As stated in our FAQ, we do not publish celeb/fanfic stories in which the characters are artificially aged - that is, under 18 years old in reality or in the source material, but made to be over 18 for the story. Please see our FAQ for full guidelines: https://literotica.com/faq/publishing/publishing-guidelines."

The celebrity in question is currently 52 years old. At the time of the tale (1990), she had just turned eighteen, which was clearly explained. I even placed a note to the admin that all characters are over 18 but understood that mentioning "high school", and "Seventeen" magazine might trigger some false concerns over the characters' ages. I cannot fathom where "characters are artificially aged" could be construed. There was no sexual activity involving this character until after her 18th birthday. I have written several stories with similar "wait till their eighteen" plots without issue.

I'm hoping that Laurel can clarify this in the PM I sent her, but if anyone else has experience with this type of rejection, please share it.

Rather than PM'ing her, I would have resubmitted the story with an explanation in the notes to editor.

It sounds like you gave her every trigger she needed to reject your story, but you expected her to read the story and understand your point. She wouldn't have time to read your story.

The "all characters are over 18" disclaimer is meaningless. Anyone can put that on anything.

 

[TheLobster]

If said celebrity was a child actress, I can see how writing about her at 18 could be seen as artificially aging the famous underage person. The fact that she’s 52 now is irrelevant if she has never been famous as an adult.

 

[Bazzle]

I had this issue with my Willy Wonka fan fic. Changed the main character name and it went through

 

[mildlyaroused]

If said celebrity was a child actress, I can see how writing about her at 18 could be seen as artificially aging the famous underage person. The fact that she’s 52 now is irrelevant if she has never been famous as an adult.

This is the key point. If they were famous as a teenager and you're writing them as an 18-year-old, that might be considered artificially ageing. Harry Potter fanfics aren't allowed here, I don't think - even if you claim the characters are 18+ at the time of the story - because those characters are children in the iconography of the series. You can say they're 18, but everyone thinks of them primarily as kids.

 

[Voboy]

I had this issue with my Willy Wonka fan fic. Changed the main character name and it went through

Charlie Fuckit? Willy Bonk Her? Or Ver-hoo-ha Salt?

 

[gunhilltrain]

I am not accustomed to my stories being rejected upon submission since it has never happened before. Even if it had, I find the stated reason for a recent rejection very confusing:

"As stated in our FAQ, we do not publish celeb/fanfic stories in which the characters are artificially aged - that is, under 18 years old in reality or in the source material, but made to be over 18 for the story. Please see our FAQ for full guidelines: https://literotica.com/faq/publishing/publishing-guidelines."

The celebrity in question is currently 52 years old. At the time of the tale (1990), she had just turned eighteen, which was clearly explained. I even placed a note to the admin that all characters are over 18 but understood that mentioning "high school", and "Seventeen" magazine might trigger some false concerns over the characters' ages. I cannot fathom where "characters are artificially aged" could be construed. There was no sexual activity involving this character until after her 18th birthday. I have written several stories with similar "wait till their eighteen" plots without issue.

I'm hoping that Laurel can clarify this in the PM I sent her, but if anyone else has experience with this type of rejection, please share it.

These rejections are done very quickly because of the volume of materials that has to be processed. I suspect that merely mentioning "Seventeen" magazine might have been the trigger (plus "high school"). That publication claims to target thirteen to nineteen year females, although it's probable that no one here dug that deeply into researching it.

 

[jaF0]

The celebrity in question is currently 52 years old. At the time of the tale (1990), she had just turned eighteen, which was clearly explained.

The character in your story or on whatever show they appeared in ?

Kelley and Bud Bundy are fair game because they both aged over 18 during the series run.

Coery Matthews and Topanga are not because neither did. (Though I have to re-think that due to the more recent update, Girl Meets World.)

The kids from Saved By The Bell did not age during the original series, but did in a later film.

Wednesday Addams did not age in the original series, but did in a recent series.

 

[TheWritingGroup]

These rejections are done very quickly because of the volume of materials that has to be processed. I suspect that merely mentioning "Seventeen" magazine might have been the trigger (plus "high school") ...

Yeah, related but not the same: I mentioned another Literotica writer as inspiration in one submission, which was rejected because Laurel (or someone) thought I meant that I was copying his story.

Resubmitted it with an explanation in the notes, it was approved.

-Annie

 

[MyBareTorso]

If said celebrity was a child actress, I can see how writing about her at 18 could be seen as artificially aging the famous underage person.

Yes, I would see this as the potential problem too. @BobbyBrandt ....can you tell us who the celeb is?

 

[SimonDoom]

You don't say who the actress is. That would help. If she is famous primarily for her pre-18 work then what you did might violate the age up rule.

 

[Bazzle]

Charlie Fuckit? Willy Bonk Her? Or Ver-hoo-ha Salt?

https://www.literotica.com/s/billy-bonkers-cigarette-factory

Almost

 

[BobbyBrandt]

You don't say who the actress is. That would help. If she is famous primarily for her pre-18 work then what you did might violate the age up rule.

The celebrity in question is Angie Harmon. This is clear because the title is "Before they were Stars - Angie Harmon".

As with all my other stories in this series, the plot focuses on the celebrity characters' fictional sexual escapades PRIOR to them becoming famous.

 

[SimonDoom]

Seems like that should be OK.

 

[jaF0]

The celebrity in question is Angie Harmon. This is clear because the title is "Before they were Stars - Angie Harmon".

As with all my other stories in this series, the plot focuses on the celebrity characters' fictional sexual escapades PRIOR to them becoming famous.

She won Seventeen's modeling contest in 1987 at age 15, signed with IMG Models, and appeared on covers for magazines such as Cosmopolitan and Esquire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angie_Harmon

" At the time of the tale (1990), she had just turned eighteen, "

But she was famous long before that.



She was famous before you knew she was famous.

 

[BobbyBrandt]

She won Seventeen's modeling contest in 1987 at age 15, signed with IMG Models, and appeared on covers for magazines such as Cosmopolitan and Esquire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angie_Harmon



But she was famous long before that.



She was famous before you knew she was famous.

The same could be said about Michelle Pfeiffer, Ali Larter, and Amy Smart. All were models or beauty pageant winners before they turned 18 yet stories about them got published here without issue. The fact remains that no sexual activity occurs with the character until after she turned 18 and that is clear in the story.

 

[jaF0]

Are you asking us to report those stories for removal?

 

[SimonDoom]

She won Seventeen's modeling contest in 1987 at age 15, signed with IMG Models, and appeared on covers for magazines such as Cosmopolitan and Esquire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angie_Harmon



But she was famous long before that.



She was famous before you knew she was famous.

I don't believe this is the standard. This is way too exacting, to the point of being silly. Many famous actresses were actresses or models before they turned 18, but owe the bulk of their fame and success to what they did after 18. I don't see how one seriously can argue that writing erotic stories about such actresses, such as Jodie Foster or Natalie Portman, would violate the "no aging up" rule unless one is getting ridiculous about it.

I know who Angie Harmon is and have seen some of her work, but I'd totally forgotten about her modeling as a teen. I'll bet well over 90% of readers of the story would have forgotten, too. They would associate the story character with the adult Angie Harmon that they know from her TV shows.

An opposing example might be someone like Shirley Temple, whose fame derives primarily from what she did as a child.

A more contemporary example would be the actors and actresses who played the Brady Bunch kids. Some of them went on to do some things as adults, but they're overwhelmingly known for their acting work as children. I could see the rule applying to them.

 

[Voboy]

I think of Angie Harmon as a thirtysomething-year-old actress. It would literally never occur to me to associate her with being a teen model.

Ah well.

 

[BobbyBrandt]

After PM'ing Laurel, the story is published without any changes.

Thanks everyone for your input