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So are screwdrivers so should they be banned?Rifles are used in 100% of rifle homicides.
weak sauce deflection attempt....So are screwdrivers so should they be banned?
So was his dumb statement.weak sauce deflection attempt....
Even for you,![]()
So once again you're trying to convince us that "two wrongs make a right"?So was his dumb statement.
I know it burns your ass but it is unconstitutional to ban firearms to thin overcrowded schools.
Devil's Advocate: If the Constitution stands in the way of common public safety, then the Constitution should be done away with.So was his dumb statement.
I know it burns your ass but it is unconstitutional to ban firearms in common use.
*chuckle* And exactly who's going to do that? The people with the guns or the people without the guns?Devil's Advocate: If the Constitution stands in the way of common public safety, then the Constitution should be done away with.![]()
Your post is fine and dandy, except it neglected to speak about full metal jackets or what is commonly referred to as "hard ball". Here I'll help you out..... hard ball doesn't expand, doesn't shed it's energy very well. Yes it has hydroshock to some degree, baring striking a bone or vital organ it a "through and through" now expanding projectiles are quite different they require higher velocities to function correctly......they smash bone, destroy organs a leave a wound cavity you can drive a coach and 4 through.....that also applies to the 9mm parabellum, 45 auto ect.... yes the majority of ar15's are technically .22 calDr. Ernest E. Moore, trauma surgeon and director of trauma research at the Shock Trauma Center named after him at Denver Health:
https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/08/health/gun-violence-human-body-damage-gupta/index.html
from The GunZone:
https://thegunzone.com/what-the-ar-15-does-to-human-bodies/
https://torontosun.com/news/world/the-blast-effect-how-bullets-from-an-ar-15-blow-the-body-apart
https://www.wired.com/2016/06/ar-15-can-human-body/
if you're using this weapon to kill rats, there's something deeply wrong with you...
if you're using it to kill people, even moreso
my post quotes the words of the experts in the medical field; it also cites the majority of mass shooters have opted to use this weapon.Your post is fine and dandy, except it neglected to speak about full metal jackets or what is commonly referred to as "hard ball". Here I'll help you out..... hard ball doesn't expand, doesn't shed it's energy very well. Yes it has hydroshock to some degree, baring striking a bone or vital organ it a "through and through" now expanding projectiles are quite different they require higher velocities to function correctly......they smash bone, destroy organs a leave a wound cavity you can drive a coach and 4 through.....that also applies to the 9mm parabellum, 45 auto ect.... yes the majority of ar15's are technically .22 cal
If you've never witnessed a wound created with 12 gauge ounce and a quarter slug traveling at 1400 fps you ain't seen shit..... always, always when a firearm is used in a crime...... it's illegal to murder, rob, rape just because it's against the law doesn't stop the people bent on these activities....gun laws don't work, death penalties, long harsh prison terms do....
I've actually had a conversation with this dip shit. He started to lecture me about how many patients he had treated who'd been shot with AR-15 rifles. I replied by citing the FBI Supplementary Homicide Reports that documented an extreme paucity of homicides committed with rifles of any type. He then began to blather about the alleged effects of hydrodynamic shock from supersonic bullets. I replied by pointing out that even bullets from rifles including the AR-15 have a muzzle velocity of about 1,000 meters per second while the velocity of sound in human soft tissues is at least 1,500 meters per second. The speed of sound in denser bone is over 4,000 meters per second. Any ultrasound technician could have explained this to him.Dr. Ernest E. Moore, trauma surgeon and director of trauma research at the Shock Trauma Center named after him at Denver Health:
https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/08/health/gun-violence-human-body-damage-gupta/index.html
from The GunZone:
https://thegunzone.com/what-the-ar-15-does-to-human-bodies/
https://torontosun.com/news/world/the-blast-effect-how-bullets-from-an-ar-15-blow-the-body-apart
https://www.wired.com/2016/06/ar-15-can-human-body/
if you're using this weapon to kill rats, there's something deeply wrong with you...
if you're using it to kill people, even moreso
A lot of professional people who should have expertise prefer to just lie about things.
Someone has been accessing the FBI database:Let's address the real problem.
54% of ALL murders are committed by blacks. 99% of their victims are also black. Blacks represent 12% of the population.
27% of ALL murders are committed by Hispanics. 99% of their victims are also Hispanic. Hispanics represent approx. 18% of the population.
So, 81% of ALL murders are committed by demographic groups that represent approx. 30% of the population. Or to put it another way 19% of murders are committed by groups that represent 70% of the population.
(Crime statistics from the FBI's UCR's. Demographics from Wikipedia.)
Violent crime is the product of two demographic groups core criminal culture. Cultures that are aided and abetted by the liberals that excuse that behavior and encourage that behavior by continually referring to, and preaching to them, as "victims." Any rational society would purge itself of those elements by extreme means. As Lincoln stated, "the constitution is NOT a suicide pact."
Thank youI've actually had a conversation with this dip shit. He started to lecture me about how many patients he had treated who'd been shot with AR-15 rifles. I replied by citing the FBI Supplementary Homicide Reports that documented an extreme paucity of homicides committed with rifles of any type. He then began to blather about the alleged effects of hydrodynamic shock from supersonic bullets. I replied by pointing out that even bullets from rifles including the AR-15 have a muzzle velocity of about 1,000 meters per second while the velocity of sound in human soft tissues is at least 1,500 meters per second. The speed of sound in denser bone is over 4,000 meters per second. Any ultrasound technician could have explained this to him.
As a matter of fact, 9mm can shatter bone just fine as can a .69 caliber ball from an antique muzzle loader.
A lot of professional people who should have expertise prefer to just lie about things.
I've actually had a conversation with this dip shit. He started to lecture me about how many patients he had treated who'd been shot with AR-15 rifles. I replied by citing the FBI Supplementary Homicide Reports that documented an extreme paucity of homicides committed with rifles of any type. ball from an antique muzzle loader.
Very fair point.*chuckle* And exactly who's going to do that? The people with the guns or the people without the guns?
Marx-Leninists might be willing to, and most liberals would be Marx-Leninists if they were honest with themselves. Just as most conservatives would be fascists if they were.I would say that one of the biggest problems with a lot of us on the left is that we're seen as a bunch of impotent weaklings who need other, stronger people to do our dirty work for us.
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If pro-system, we ourselves don't actually plan to put our own lives at risk in the dying and killing in defense of the System, or to implement the restrictions that we risk to enforce upon others. A common joke among the pro-gun types is that no liberal is willing to shoot you to take your gun away.
Blacks are the real problem.Let's address the real problem.
54% of ALL murders are committed by blacks. 99% of their victims are also black. Blacks represent 12% of the population.
27% of ALL murders are committed by Hispanics. 99% of their victims are also Hispanic. Hispanics represent approx. 18% of the population.
So, 81% of ALL murders are committed by demographic groups that represent approx. 30% of the population. Or to put it another way 19% of murders are committed by groups that represent 70% of the population.
(Crime statistics from the FBI's UCR's. Demographics from Wikipedia.)
Violent crime is the product of two demographic groups core criminal culture. Cultures that are aided and abetted by the liberals that excuse that behavior and encourage that behavior by continually referring to, and preaching to them, as "victims." Any rational society would purge itself of those elements by extreme means. As Lincoln stated, "the constitution is NOT a suicide pact."
If conservatives were Fascists the liberals would have been eliminated long ago.Very fair point.
Marx-Leninists might be willing to, and most liberals would be Marx-Leninists if they were honest with themselves. Just as most conservatives would be fascists if they were.
However, most people are not honest with themselves.
After all, they are only twenty-two caliber.
Which certain jurisdiction might that be?They may be surprised by the level of violence they're going to encounter in certain jurisdiction.
Who knows? Maybe even Chicago.Which certain jurisdiction might that be?
and the fact the other experts agree with him—and i only linked a few of all the hits—means i would take your word over their collective one? yeah, right. lolI've actually had a conversation with this dip shit. He started to lecture me about how many patients he had treated who'd been shot with AR-15 rifles. I replied by citing the FBI Supplementary Homicide Reports that documented an extreme paucity of homicides committed with rifles of any type. He then began to blather about the alleged effects of hydrodynamic shock from supersonic bullets. I replied by pointing out that even bullets from rifles including the AR-15 have a muzzle velocity of about 1,000 meters per second while the velocity of sound in human soft tissues is at least 1,500 meters per second. The speed of sound in denser bone is over 4,000 meters per second. Any ultrasound technician could have explained this to him.
As a matter of fact, 9mm can shatter bone just fine as can a .69 caliber ball from an antique muzzle loader.
A lot of professional people who should have expertise prefer to just lie about things.
Yes I know. See how that works, numbnuts?So once again you've jammed my words up my ass and broke them off!
Doctor Martin Faeckler, MD, who was the director of the US Army Wound Ballistics Laboratory certainly doesn't agree.and the fact the other experts agree with him—and i only linked a few of all the hits—means i would take your word over their collective one? yeah, right. lol
I'm not sure why you and your kind think this is a problem. You'd rather we didn't have either of those groups in our society anyway, right?Let's address the real problem.
54% of ALL murders are committed by blacks. 99% of their victims are also black. Blacks represent 12% of the population.
27% of ALL murders are committed by Hispanics. 99% of their victims are also Hispanic. Hispanics represent approx. 18% of the population.