Monday, April 15th: First Ever Criminal Trial for a Former US President

[adrina]

how many nazis do you see waving "biden/harris" flags?

At least two dozen every day, and the parades of course.

Too much sarcasm?

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

i'm being

i'm being SINCERELY HONEST...and if i'm given the boot on this thread, it will be par for the LEFT silencing voices that they dont want to hear!!! LOL

The left doesn’t silence anyone, you have your spectrum confused.

 

[Bray123]

You think a father showering with his daughter is acceptable and not creepy behavior?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ashley-biden-diary-afraid/

FAKE NEWS!!!

 

[icanhelp1]

Yes. After the damage Trump wrought, and especially after all the opposition from the GOP. The GOP only seeks to use government to enrich themselves and their friends. They don't have any interest in or ability to govern. They don't know how to write legislation and they don't know how to govern by law but instead by ideology.

Joe isn't doing bad.

The fact that you use the language you do only shows just how ignorant you are.

Trump wants to fuck his own daughter. You're an idiot spouting propaganda garbage.

HR-2 was good legislation unfortunately Senate Dems can't read!!

 

[Bray123]

False.

Trump was found, by a jury, liable for battery, a civil tort, based on the preponderance of evidence provided by E. Jean Carroll that he sexually abused her but not that he raped her.

He was not found "guilty" as the suit was a civil trial, which entails no criminal conviction.

If the evidence provided by Carroll was given to a criminal jury, it might have come to other conclusions. That it was not found at a civil trial (based on the preponderance of evidence) that he raped Carroll does not mean that a criminal trial would make the same conclusion, although the evidential standards would be higher.

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-was-donald-trump-found-guilty-rape-1799935

False,

The Judge said he raped her.
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-rape-e-jean-carroll-sexual-abuse-jury-judge-2023-7

 

[adrina]

HR-2 was good legislation unfortunately Senate Dems can't read!!

We already went through this. HR2 was partisan crap with zero chance of passing.

The Senate bill was bipartisan and was endorsed by the Border Patrol.

Trump shitcanned it.

Fuck off idiot.

 

[SmokingFap]

False.

Trump was found, by a jury, liable for battery, a civil tort, based on the preponderance of evidence provided by E. Jean Carroll that he sexually abused her but not that he raped her.

He was not found "guilty" as the suit was a civil trial, which entails no criminal conviction.

If the evidence provided by Carroll was given to a criminal jury, it might have come to other conclusions. That it was not found at a civil trial (based on the preponderance of evidence) that he raped Carroll does not mean that a criminal trial would make the same conclusion, although the evidential standards would be higher.

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-was-donald-trump-found-guilty-rape-1799935

The judge did clarify after the trial that Trump indeed was found to have "raped" Ms. Carroll.

"Trump deliberately and forcibly penetrated Ms. Carroll's vagina with his fingers, causing immediate pain and long lasting emotional and psychological harm".[143][144] Kaplan affirmed that Trump had raped Carroll according to the common meaning of the word[d] and ruled against altering the award amount."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._Je... penetrated,against altering the award amount.

still rape, and Trump will forever be a rapist.

False.

Trump was found, by a jury, liable for battery, a civil tort, based on the preponderance of evidence provided by E. Jean Carroll that he sexually abused her but not that he raped her.

He was not found "guilty" as the suit was a civil trial, which entails no criminal conviction.

If the evidence provided by Carroll was given to a criminal jury, it might have come to other conclusions. That it was not found at a civil trial (based on the preponderance of evidence) that he raped Carroll does not mean that a criminal trial would make the same conclusion, although the evidential standards would be higher.

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-was-donald-trump-found-guilty-rape-1799935

The judge did clarify and affirm that Trump indeed was found to have "raped" Ms. Carroll.



"Mr. Trump deliberately and forcibly penetrated Ms. Carroll's vagina with his fingers, causing immediate pain and long lasting emotional and psychological harm".[143][144] Kaplan affirmed that Trump had raped Carroll according to the common meaning of the word and ruled against altering the award amount."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._Je... penetrated,against altering the award amount.

So it was indeed rape, and Trump will forever be a rapist.

 

[SmokingFap]

False,

The Judge said he raped her.
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-rape-e-jean-carroll-sexual-abuse-jury-judge-2023-7

Dammit. You beat me to it.

 

[icanhelp1]

Yes. After the damage Trump wrought, and especially after all the opposition from the GOP. The GOP only seeks to use government to enrich themselves and their friends. They don't have any interest in or ability to govern. They don't know how to write legislation and they don't know how to govern by law but instead by ideology.

Joe isn't doing bad.

The fact that you use the language you do only shows just how ignorant you are.

Trump wants to fuck his own daughter. You're an idiot spouting propaganda garbage.

Any administration that sends sincere condolences for a mass murderer will never get my vote!!! Biden is Iran's bitch!

 

[icanhelp1]

We already went through this. HR2 was partisan crap with zero chance of passing.

The Senate bill was bipartisan and was endorsed by the Border Patrol.

Trump shitcanned it.

Fuck off idiot.

It should of passed but dems don't want to curb out of control migration.

 

[SmokingFap]

Any administration that sends sincere condolences for a mass murderer will never get my vote!!! Biden is Iran's bitch!

Which makes for a very weird love triangle (or is it a square?). Because Iran is Russia's bitch, and so is Trump.

 

[adrina]

Any administration that sends sincere condolences for a mass murderer will never get my vote!!! Biden is Iran's bitch!

Sure thing traitor.

WTF is it with you trumpers being so goddamn emotional. You can't get through the day without getting your panties in a wad. Even crazier, you actually seek out things that will get those panties wadded up. It's insane.

 

[SmokingFap]

It should of passed but dems don't want to curb out of control migration.

It was House Republicans who killed that last bipartisan immigration reform bill at the behest of Ol' Babydoll Hands, fuckbag. Republicans are the ones who never want to solve a problem. They just want to use the problem to raise money and campaign on.

 

[adrina]

It should of passed but dems don't want to curb out of control migration.

Your leader killed the bill traitor.

You support an anti-American piece of shit that killed a bill that would have done good for America because your leader wanted a political point against Biden.

Go throw a tantrum.

 

[icanhelp1]

Sure thing traitor.

WTF is it with you trumpers being so goddamn emotional. You can't get through the day without getting your panties in a wad. Even crazier, you actually seek out things that will get those panties wadded up. It's insane.

You’re the one screaming! The Senate bill, which had some support from RINOs, who hopefully will be voted out in Nov, only codified what’s wrong with our immigration policy (laws) now. HR-2 was a better bill.

So you’re OK with sending condolences to a to a tyrannical regime that supports terrorism.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1792975277728960992

I wouldn’t let that man within a hundred miles of the nuclear football.

 

[icanhelp1]

It was House Republicans who killed that last bipartisan immigration reform bill at the behest of Ol' Babydoll Hands, fuckbag. Republicans are the ones who never want to solve a problem. They just want to use the problem to raise money and campaign on.

HR-2 was never even looked at by Schumer. He could have put the bill up for debate 9 months earlier. You’re too ignorant to realize that Schumer is a partisan POS.

 

[schism666]

icanthelpanyone argues hypothetical and hyperbole against facts to a hilarious end.

 

[schism666]

I thought I read that Q kicked the covid bucket or something... can't remember if it was Rory or Rob that posted it. Or when.

if c19 did any good, it was cleansing the earth of people like him.

 

[mrboom2400]

The left doesn’t silence anyone, you have your spectrum confused.

oh reeeealy??? #covid19 #2020election #pizzagate #clintonkilllist

 

[adrina]

You’re the one screaming! The Senate bill, which had some support from RINOs, who hopefully will be voted out in Nov, only codified what’s wrong with our immigration policy (laws) now. HR-2 was a better bill.

So you’re OK with sending condolences to a to a tyrannical regime that supports terrorism.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1792975277728960992

I wouldn’t let that man within a hundred miles of the nuclear football.

You are such a hysteric.

Join reality.

HR2 was DOA. Not passable. You clinging to it is as reasonable as trying to predict a hurricane path with a sharpie.

Or as Trump suggested, a nuclear weapon. Cuz ya know, your hero has the best brains.

You are an anti-American POS traitor. You support an anti-American POS traitor.

 

[jomar]

I don't think I have ever seen a more incompetent prosecutor or a more biased judge in the same courtroom. Both should be forced from the profession to protect it's integrity.

I agree, Judge Cannon is very biased.

You’re the one screaming! The Senate bill, which had some support from RINOs, who hopefully will be voted out in Nov, only codified what’s wrong with our immigration policy (laws) now. HR-2 was a better bill.

So you’re OK with sending condolences to a to a tyrannical regime that supports terrorism.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1792975277728960992

I wouldn’t let that man within a hundred miles of the nuclear football.

lol, preach on Mr. I’m not a MAGAt and am a law and order guy in a totally non-partisan way because I’m a liberal in the non-democratic meaning of liberal and don’t carry water for trump our savior amen.

 

[butters]

False,

The Judge said he raped her.
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-rape-e-jean-carroll-sexual-abuse-jury-judge-2023-7

"The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was 'raped' within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump 'raped' her as many people commonly understand the word 'rape,'" Kaplan wrote. "Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that."

Kaplan's opinion denied a motion from Trump's lawyers to reduce the $2 million in damages the jury awarded Carroll for the injuries she received as a result of Trump's assault on her.

In his opinion upholding the jury verdict, Kaplan took issue with the denials that Trump "raped" Carroll.

Ordinary dictionaries, the FBI, the US military code, other state statutes, and the American Psychological Association, and "common modern parlance" all define "rape" in ways that comport with the jury's findings, beyond "the narrow, technical meaning of a particular section of the New York Penal Law," he wrote.

Trump's argument was "incorrect at every step," according to Kaplan.

 

[Rotadom]

I agree, Judge Cannon is very biased.


lol, preach on Mr. I’m not a MAGAt and am a law and order guy in a totally non-partisan way because I’m a liberal in the non-democratic meaning of liberal and don’t carry water for trump our savior amen.

He doesn't even bother to take off his red hat while denying he's a trumpette.

 

[Lazaran]

False,

The Judge said he raped her.
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-rape-e-jean-carroll-sexual-abuse-jury-judge-2023-7

Somewhat related / relevant:

Remember when the right wingers defended Bill Clinton when he prevaricated about “sex” ( a blowjob vs intercourse) with Monica Lewinsky???

Yeah, me neither.

 

[icanhelp1]

You are such a hysteric.

Join reality.

HR2 was DOA. Not passable. You clinging to it is as reasonable as trying to predict a hurricane path with a sharpie.

Or as Trump suggested, a nuclear weapon. Cuz ya know, your hero has the best brains.

You are an anti-American POS traitor. You support an anti-American POS traitor.

Why wasn't it passable?