consensual roleplay of non-con scenarios

[joy_of_cooking]

I have an idea for an NC/R story where a disruptive library patron is subjected to increasingly strict bondage by a sexy librarian. Except I don't like actual non-con, so I'm going to have a happy ending where we find out it was all pre-negotiated roleplay and both parties were enthusiastically consenting the whole time.

Two questions:

1. Where should such a story go? NC/R seemed like the obvious choice, but they don't always like femdom and maybe they don't like people roleplaying non-con scenarios either?

2. Should I include a disclaimer at the top, warning people this isn't going to be real noncon? I worry otherwise that all the CNC-accepting readers will bail out before the reveal, and then the remaining real-NC readers will downvote me to oblivion. But I kind of hate the spoiler...

 

[desecration]

I don't know enough about this area to talk about point #1, but for point #2, I think your gut instinct is right: no spoiler, or put the spoiler after the story (haha) as a disclaimer.

 

[TheRedChamber]

I have an idea for an NC/R story where a disruptive library patron is subjected to increasingly strict bondage by a sexy librarian. Except I don't like actual non-con, so I'm going to have a happy ending where we find out it was all pre-negotiated roleplay and both parties were enthusiastically consenting the whole time.

Two questions:

1. Where should such a story go? NC/R seemed like the obvious choice, but they don't always like femdom and maybe they don't like people roleplaying non-con scenarios either?

2. Should I include a disclaimer at the top, warning people this isn't going to be real noncon? I worry otherwise that all the CNC-accepting readers will bail out before the reveal, and then the remaining real-NC readers will downvote me to oblivion. But I kind of hate the spoiler...

Please don't do the whole 'see it was all consensual' trick at the end. It always end up as seeming like the author is say 'hey, that sick stuff you were enjoying, fooled you, I don't condone any of it.'

And if you are giving a warning, you might as well build the whole consensual set-up into the plot itself.

 

[desecration]

It always end up as seeming like the author is say 'hey, that sick stuff you were enjoying, fooled you, I don't condone any of it.'

This might depend on the audience. For some of us, it means that this is just standard affectionate roleplay. You know, like the whole thing where you pretend to be mall security so you can haul your partner into a back room for a strip search.

 

[NotWise]

I have an idea for an NC/R story where a disruptive library patron is subjected to increasingly strict bondage by a sexy librarian. Except I don't like actual non-con, so I'm going to have a happy ending where we find out it was all pre-negotiated roleplay and both parties were enthusiastically consenting the whole time.

Two questions:

1. Where should such a story go? NC/R seemed like the obvious choice, but they don't always like femdom and maybe they don't like people roleplaying non-con scenarios either?

2. Should I include a disclaimer at the top, warning people this isn't going to be real noncon? I worry otherwise that all the CNC-accepting readers will bail out before the reveal, and then the remaining real-NC readers will downvote me to oblivion. But I kind of hate the spoiler...

I don't think the story would be well-received in NC/R, but that could vary with how you write it.

I've never written for BDSM, but why not consider that as an option?

 

[Bamagan]

The 'surprise' ending, in this case, seems to be more for the author's pleasure (or peace of mind) than for the audience's enjoyment. So you can either spoil the surprise, and tell the audience up front that you're serving a processed soy product instead of a hamburger (or vice versa, depending on your meat views), or you can spoil the actual ending that would have satisfied the target audience, and understandably result in unfavorable reviews.

I'll echo the comments above and suggest tweaking the story so that it's simply a satisfying BDSM scenario from start to finish and place it in that category instead. If you can work in a surprise ending that doesn't retroactively negate all the erotic tension you built up, as opposed to resolving it, then great. Like maybe the disruptive patron is actually a coworker, and they take turns on their off days causing scenes and getting 'punished.'

 

[SimonDoom]

I agree 100% with Bamagan. I don't see how you do this as a "surprise" without it seeming like a contrived trick to the reader, and therefore a disappointment. A crucial part of either non-con or BDSM stories is taking us inside the minds of the participants, but if you surprise us in the end it means you cannot do that.

As Bamagan suggests, I'd recommend writing it as a BDSM story but perhaps one where the parties take it so far that they get close to the boundary of non-con, and that can give the story its edge.

 

[PeytonMirabelle]

... and maybe they don't like people roleplaying non-con scenarios either?

They don't? My first and most-read/favorited story is exactly that set-up: the roleplaying of an NC encounter, and the reception in NC/R has been pretty positive. Granted, there was no "gotcha" at the end and my participants did set the conditions in advance but in the act, it was very much NC.

If you're committed to the plot & story, maybe have them tease the idea and set it up in advance as well. Then there's no trick on the reader then and you can use that time to build anticipation and dread. Just a thought.

 

[desecration]

Well, this was a fun little story.

 

[Rob_Royale]

I'd go with a BDSM story. Our sexy librarian has a side job that involves crops and restraints. One day one of her former clients is in the library and recognizes her. He makes a commotion and as she berates him, recognizes him. He's standing before her, literally trembling with arousal.

 

[Jmanchu]

I have an idea for an NC/R story where a disruptive library patron is subjected to increasingly strict bondage by a sexy librarian. Except I don't like actual non-con, so I'm going to have a happy ending where we find out it was all pre-negotiated roleplay and both parties were enthusiastically consenting the whole time.

Two questions:

1. Where should such a story go? NC/R seemed like the obvious choice, but they don't always like femdom and maybe they don't like people roleplaying non-con scenarios either?

2. Should I include a disclaimer at the top, warning people this isn't going to be real noncon? I worry otherwise that all the CNC-accepting readers will bail out before the reveal, and then the remaining real-NC readers will downvote me to oblivion. But I kind of hate the spoiler...

Sounds like a BDSM story. Roleplay of domination/submission and sexual punishment with bondage? BDSM for sure.

 

[RejectReality]

Feels like a no-win situation.

Non-con is going to be disappointed ( to say the least ) when you hit them with "it was all a dream". BDSM isn't going to give it a chance to reveal that it was all consensual. I'm not sure Laurel would even allow it to go there, honestly. You're likely going to have a difficult time assigning it to any category other than Non-con if you play it straight all the way until the end. Reader complaints have pushed Laurel toward isolating non-con and incest in those categories by default.

I feel as if you're going to take a beating no matter where you post it, so go with what the dominant part of it appears to be — Non-con. Just expect to get savaged by pulling the rug out from under them at the end.

Warning isn't going to do anything but cause more back-clicks and no-read 1 votes, dragging the score even lower. The people who might enjoy having their expectations subverted are going to know from the beginning, which is exactly the opposite of what you want to do. You're taking away the moment of discovery that would make it special for them.

 

[Bramblethorn]

Please don't do the whole 'see it was all consensual' trick at the end. It always end up as seeming like the author is say 'hey, that sick stuff you were enjoying, fooled you, I don't condone any of it.'

And it's been done to death. It's hard to pull off a twist ending when readers have encountered the same twist several times already in the same genre.

<rant hat on>

Twist endings can be great, when executed well in the right story. But I've read quite a few stories on Literotica where the author got caught up in the cleverness of achieving a twist, without thinking about whether it was really a better story for that twist. Achieving that kind of surprise requires obfuscating a lot of information from the reader and gets in the way of a lot of interesting possibilities - if I'm planning to surprise the reader with the revelation that the hardboiled PI protagonist is actually a dog, it's hard to explore all the interesting ramifications of being a dog in a world of humans, yada yada.

(Not impossible, with clever writing. But hard.)

Not saying "don't write twist endings", and I'd hold TRC's "Demonisation" up as an example of one that works. But I'd encourage authors considering a twist to examine whether the story really needs one, and whether it might be better off without.

<rant hat off>

Partly my own selfish interest speaking here. I've read quite a few "supposedly NC but twist reveals it to be CNC" stories, and not nearly enough "exploration of what people are thinking as they do CNC play"; at this point the latter holds much more interest for me.

 

[stonedinstilletos]

I have an idea for an NC/R story where a disruptive library patron is subjected to increasingly strict bondage by a sexy librarian. Except I don't like actual non-con, so I'm going to have a happy ending where we find out it was all pre-negotiated roleplay and both parties were enthusiastically consenting the whole time.

Two questions:

1. Where should such a story go? NC/R seemed like the obvious choice, but they don't always like femdom and maybe they don't like people roleplaying non-con scenarios either?

2. Should I include a disclaimer at the top, warning people this isn't going to be real noncon? I worry otherwise that all the CNC-accepting readers will bail out before the reveal, and then the remaining real-NC readers will downvote me to oblivion. But I kind of hate the spoiler...

If you want to do it this way, I think what you should do is drop hints along the way that this is actually consensual. Like have the guy say something a stranger shouldnt say to another stranger. Maybe like a code word mixed into a sentence but not so deep its not clear. For example, when he starts acting up, maybe have him say “You think you can stand there in your green blouse and talk to me like that?’ Btu having earlier established shes all in black or something.

The reason I say this is because it will make it less of a cheat at the end when you reveal it was set up in advance. Show the work to the people paying attention that way they don’t feel cheated and like you’re looking down at them for their kink. But that’s just my thought.

 

[joy_of_cooking]

Thanks, everyone! Will be writing it as a more explicitly consensual piece, probably in BDSM or Fetish.

 

[ClaireDescending]

I have an idea for an NC/R story where a disruptive library patron is subjected to increasingly strict bondage by a sexy librarian. Except I don't like actual non-con, so I'm going to have a happy ending where we find out it was all pre-negotiated roleplay and both parties were enthusiastically consenting the whole time.

Two questions:

1. Where should such a story go? NC/R seemed like the obvious choice, but they don't always like femdom and maybe they don't like people roleplaying non-con scenarios either?

2. Should I include a disclaimer at the top, warning people this isn't going to be real noncon? I worry otherwise that all the CNC-accepting readers will bail out before the reveal, and then the remaining real-NC readers will downvote me to oblivion. But I kind of hate the spoiler...

I’ve read stories like this in the non/dubcon. Until you get to the end and find out, it’s going to read like non/dub.

 

[Dark_Logan_]

To the OP

I don’t think you can commit to a category you’re not confident or comfortable with it

Majority of my work is hosted in non con due to its darker content and the lean of the stories. In truth they probably tick more of the reluctance box. Very few of the tales are strictly speaking non con (some are) and nearly all feature a B and D elements but rarely S or M

I’m confident with writing this as a fantasy and that might be the difference against your dillema

That doesn’t mean I actually condone non con. Yet to my knowledge Stephen King has never murdered anyone outside of the pages he writes

It’s an age old what category is best debate at heart for a story you obviously believe in and want to write… and it’s rare to find a category for lots of stories that truly reflect all the content. Often they straddle categories but you have to choose to host somewhere

Sounds to me by your original query though that you knew non con wasn’t genuinely for you.

I look forward to your BDSM submission

 

[CarmineBlancheJr]

I'd go with a BDSM story. Our sexy librarian has a side job that involves crops and restraints. One day one of her former clients is in the library and recognizes her. He makes a commotion and as she berates him, recognizes him. He's standing before her, literally trembling with arousal.

The librarian could have found a secret room in the library's basement, which she converted into her own little dungeon. That is where she likes to play after the doors close.

 

[Otto26]

I have an idea for an NC/R story where a disruptive library patron is subjected to increasingly strict bondage by a sexy librarian. Except I don't like actual non-con, so I'm going to have a happy ending where we find out it was all pre-negotiated roleplay and both parties were enthusiastically consenting the whole time.

Two questions:

1. Where should such a story go? NC/R seemed like the obvious choice, but they don't always like femdom and maybe they don't like people roleplaying non-con scenarios either?

2. Should I include a disclaimer at the top, warning people this isn't going to be real noncon? I worry otherwise that all the CNC-accepting readers will bail out before the reveal, and then the remaining real-NC readers will downvote me to oblivion. But I kind of hate the spoiler...

Stick to your vision, have fun writing it, do it well, and stick it in BDSM. But then, I'm a terrible person to take advice from.