Israel/Hamas PB Tribal Fight

“We can forgive the Arabs for killing our children. We cannot forgive them for forcing us to kill their children. We will only have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us” - Golda Meir

What is note worthy in that quote is the lack of the word "Palestinian."
Have that movie on my list to watch. Sounds like she was pretty amazing.
 
What is note worthy in that quote is the lack of the word "Palestinian."
maybe because:

“It was not as if there was a Palestinian people in Palestine and we came and threw them out and took their country away from them. They did not exist.”​

Golda Meir
 
maybe because:

“It was not as if there was a Palestinian people in Palestine and we came and threw them out and took their country away from them. They did not exist.”​

Golda Meir
It's quite a bit more complicated than that. But also, that was 1948.

1967 is even a bit more complicated than that....but that was also decades ago.

Alot of people seem to skip the wars around that and the acceptance of Israel as a state. They both have a right to exist and Palestinians should have their state as well.

Leaders in neither camp have actually taken a serious stance on the two state solution since 2016....and even then, it was half assed.
 
Nice video of how Israel is treating those Palestinian workers they are "rounding" up. Don't you ever get tired of being wrong 74?
good

they are terrorists

they shoud hire any

in fact they have a deal with India to get workers
 
It's quite a bit more complicated than that. But also, that was 1948.

1967 is even a bit more complicated than that....but that was also decades ago.

Alot of people seem to skip the wars around that and the acceptance of Israel as a state. They both have a right to exist and Palestinians should have their state as well.

Leaders in neither camp have actually taken a serious stance on the two state solution since 2016....and even then, it was half assed.
the Palis werent thrown out, in 1947 the other Arab countries told then to leave so they can INVADE AND DESTROY Jews and Israel

if anyone was thrown out it was Jews from other Arab countries

We want OUR LAND AND PROPERTY BACK

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jewish-refugees-from-arab-countries
 
It's quite a bit more complicated than that. But also, that was 1948.

1967 is even a bit more complicated than that....but that was also decades ago.

Alot of people seem to skip the wars around that and the acceptance of Israel as a state. They both have a right to exist and Palestinians should have their state as well.

Leaders in neither camp have actually taken a serious stance on the two state solution since 2016....and even then, it was half assed.
My post was simple to put into context chubbies attempt to use a quote to mean something different from what was meant.

As to the two state solution, that was the original intent, which was written into the Balfour letter. A point I have raised every time I comment here, the blame for this lies at the feet of the old British Empire.

. I tend to stay out of this thread, simple because I disagree vehemently with both "Governments" approaches and methods to come to an agreement between each party.. For decades innocent people on both sides have been needlessly "slaughtered" by two "fleas" fighting over who owns which area of the dog.
 
Why do you believe Israel after the lies about 40 decapitated babies?

One is no better or worse than the other… and neither is worth a single US dollar or a drop of American blood.
Really?

One of them has tried to make peace 5 different times over the years and the other has rejected peace each and every time and chosen violence and war over peace.

One of them of them has accepted the two state solution while the other has sworn to destroy their enemy rather than have a state, and even put that in their charter.

One of them specifically targets and murders innocent civilians while the other uses civilians as human shields And then uses the dead bodies as public relations fodder.
 
Why are Palestinians the only ones not allowed to be refugees in other countries? Because the Arab world wanted to use them as pawns against Israel.

Why is Israel the only country that must return land they won in a war?

Name one thing the Palestinians have ever done to try and make peace with Israel?

What did the Palestinians do when Israel gave back Gaza in the land for peace deal other than use it as a base for terror attacks?
 
Why are Palestinians the only ones not allowed to be refugees in other countries? Because the Arab world wanted to use them as pawns against Israel.

Why is Israel the only country that must return land they won in a war?

Name one thing the Palestinians have ever done to try and make peace with Israel?

What did the Palestinians do when Israel gave back Gaza in the land for peace deal other than use it as a base for terror attacks?
You wanted them to have an airport knowing what they would use it for
 
Fun facts.

Israel and Judea (both now modern Israel) existed as self-governing entities long before the classical Greeks.

Palestine has NEVER existed as a self-governing entity.

Hamas, along with Hezbollah, Isis, Muslim Brotherhood, Iranian Revolutionary Guard, and the likes all trace their linage back to the Fedayeen which in turn trace their linage back too the Assassins. Religious fanatics all based on what is essentially a 'death cult.'
 
At least Israel is telling the truth...that they will occupy and control Gaza for "an indefinite " period of time. What does occupy mean? It means they will have armed forces in Gaza in for as long as they see fit. What does control mean? It means they will only allow those that side with them to govern. Their words...not mine.

Do your own fucking research 74.
 
At least Israel is telling the truth...that they will occupy and control Gaza for "an indefinite " period of time. What does occupy mean? It means they will have armed forces in Gaza in for as long as they see fit. What does control mean? It means they will only allow those that side with them to govern. Their words...not mine.

Do your own fucking research 74.
Lol... histrionic nonsense is fun

I'm sure you also saw that Hamas said they would do as many October 7s as they can.
 
Now this is what i would like to see more of.

Rabbi and Imam Unite for Palestine/Israel Peace In Bergen County


Here in Ridgewood, we are one community. There isn’t your community or my community. There is only our community. We recognize the pain and suffering of all those affected in our community by the crisis in the Middle East; We the community and faith leaders, of Muslim, Jewish, and other faiths urge respect during these tragic times in the Middle East; We agree in condemning terrorism, mourning the loss of innocent life - regardless of faith or ethnicity – and coming together as a community.
 
You see the equivalency quite clearly. You're just a yellow belly who can't face the reality it represents.
Rebellion for Palestinians is not the same thing as the riots during the Floyd protests...period. There is no equivalency...period.
 
Here's what you'd like to see more of. Joe's own Nazis kicking his ass:

Biden Admin’s Own Staffers Slam President For Being Too Pro-Israel In Leaked Memo​

REAGAN REESEWHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT
November 06, 20234:54 PM ET


A group of State Department staffers have criticized President Joe Biden for his pro-Israel stance, demanding that the president call for a ceasefire, according to a leaked memo obtained by Politico.

Biden and his administration have committed to supporting Israel’s war against Hamas after the terrorist group killed over 1,400 Israelis in an Oct. 7 attack. The Biden administration staffers behind the memo are asking the White House to air criticism of the Israeli government’s treatment of Palestinians that it would normally keep private, Politico reported.

“We must publicly criticize Israel’s violations of international norms such as failure to limit offensive operations to legitimate military targets,” the memo states, according to Politico. “When Israel supports settler violence and illegal land seizures or employs excessive use of force against Palestinians, we must communicate publicly that this goes against our American values so that Israel does not act with impunity.”

The memo claims that there is a gap in the Biden administration’s messaging on the Israel-Hamas war and that the current line “contributes to regional public perceptions that the United States is a biased and dishonest actor, which at best does not advance, and at worst harms, U.S. interests worldwide,” Politico reported. The leaked memo concedes that Israel has the “legitimate right and obligation” to attack Hamas, though it adds that “the extent of human lives lost thus far is unacceptable.”

More on how to own your goose step here: https://dailycaller.com/2023/11/06/biden-admin-staffers-president-pro-israel-gaza-hamas/
 
Sucks when Beni has to remove a member of the parliament...or whatever it is called...for publically stating using nuclear weapons on Gaza is a "solution".

Or how about that video of the rabbi blessing the first wave of foot soldiers in...promising this is a beginning...it is ours...all of it...Gaza...Lebanon...all of it. Did you see how the soldiers fell into the chant? Like Hitler...just different. Of course...the IDF is doing damage control on that one...saying it isn't the view of ours. Yet...there it is...not a quiet person in the room.
 
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