For Those Who Might Be Wondering Why We Might Be In Ukraine

[Sean Renaud]

Ok. I read your first sentence and that’s all I’ll ever need to hear from you. You’re lost and I can’t help you. Back to ignore.

LOL. Thanks for putting me on ignore, that is how I know I'm so superior to someone that they refuse to even see anything especially if you stopped after the first line.

 

[ll74]

Ok. I read your first sentence and that’s all I’ll ever need to hear from you. You’re lost and I can’t help you. Back to ignore.

The ignore feature doesn't work unless you tell everyone that you're doing it.. Glad you made sure to use it properly

 

[ll74]

I have always thought it was polite to let someone you are having a conversation with… know that the conversation is over, and you won’t be seeing any more of their posts. It saves them effort.

Lol

 

[Rightguide]

I'm supportive still.

Putin continues to appreciate your support

I have no dog in his fight except our national interest which we are squandering in our failed support for this war that is ending in disaster for Ukraine and for us. All of which was predictable from the beginning. Joe Biden has always been a foreign policy disaster waiting to happen. Well, it's happening now, and not just in Ukraine, but here on our southern border, in the Pacific, in Afghanistan, in the Middle East, and in South America. We are the laughingstock of the friggin' World. Thanks to you and Joe.

 

[ll74]

I have no dog in his fight except our national interest which we are squandering in our failed support for this war that is ending in disaster for Ukraine and for us. All of which was predictable from the beginning. Joe Biden has always been a foreign policy disaster waiting to happen. Well, it's happening now, and not just in Ukraine, but here on our southern border, in the Pacific, in Afghanistan, in the Middle East, and in South America. We are the laughingstock of the friggin' World. Thanks to you and Joe.

You support Putin and hate Biden.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I have no dog in his fight except our national interest which we are squandering in our failed support for this war that is ending in disaster for Ukraine and for us. All of which was predictable from the beginning. Joe Biden has always been a foreign policy disaster waiting to happen. Well, it's happening now, and not just in Ukraine, but here on our southern border, in the Pacific, in Afghanistan, in the Middle East, and in South America. We are the laughingstock of the friggin' World. Thanks to you and Joe.

We have so much respect from the rest of the world that we managed to expand Nato and pull support from the UN. You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts. We were the laughingstock of the world under Trump. We even have the photos of the entire rest of the world glaring at the clown. Actually the UK was tying us for laughing stock with Brexit which is backfiring on the fools.

A free Ukraine is in our national interests and at any rate a national interest is not a thing you can squander. None of this was remotely predictable. I would love to see your posts from when this was ramping up almost two years ago on the subject because there were lots of things predicted but this? This was not one of them.

The shit South America is our fault but that's something that started with Bush and we've just failed to fix it. Though it looks like Biden MIGHT work at least loosening the various embargos against our southern neighbors. We'll see how/if that plays out.

The Middle East has been fucked for decades and the Trump admin made it worse but ultimately Hamas had been planning this for years and Israel finally slipped.

Gods do you check under your bed for monsters before you go to sleep?

 

[ll74]

I honestly can't wait to see how long the next RG post takes to get here. I already know what it's about. I'm doing science.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I have always thought it was polite to let someone you are having a conversation with… know that the conversation is over, and you won’t be seeing any more of their posts. It saves them effort.

LOL if you think put someone on ignore stops them from posting a reply to whatever bullshit your posting, you're even dumber than I thought...

Goodbye!!

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I have no dog in his fight except our national interest which we are squandering in our failed support for this war that is ending in disaster for Ukraine and for us. All of which was predictable from the beginning. Joe Biden has always been a foreign policy disaster waiting to happen. Well, it's happening now, and not just in Ukraine, but here on our southern border, in the Pacific, in Afghanistan, in the Middle East, and in South America. We are the laughingstock of the friggin' World. Thanks to you and Joe.

You support Putin and hate Biden.

What this guy said wrongway......you suck Putin's cock every single time you mention Russia.

 

[TJX]

You are falling for the lies you've been told about Putin. It's understandable. The liars are professionals and they keep it going 24-7. But at some point you have to choose between seeing what really is or existing as a willing dupe.

Putin didn't get where he is by winning a series of popularity contests like our leaders do. He climbed the ladder at the KGB. That means he's smart, tough, and ruthless when it comes to obtaining his objectives. He also lived through the high point of the Soviet Union. And while he may not aspire to collecting back the satellite states, he definitely wants to regain the respect, fear, and status the USSR enjoyed.

Is he corrupt and self-enriching? Maybe. If so, he's certainly no worse than our own politicians or many we support around the world. Is he a thug to his political opponents? Maybe. But we have thugs here and being a thug abroad is no impediment to gaining US support.

So why is Putin such a villain? Two reasons: First, our politicians need a scapegoat to direct your attention away from their own corruption, incompetence, and thuggery. If it wasn't Putin, it would be somebody else. Second, Putin can't be bought off or intimidated. He is reliable. He will always do what he believes is in the best interests of Russia... and they hate him for that.

As far as Ukraine, Putin has been willing to end this and give back all territory taken in exchange for an agreement that Ukraine would be neutral and not join NATO. That's all he wanted before the war ever started. We have rejected (and I say WE as in America) that idea in favor of grand plans and fantasies of our own. At this point that deal may not be on the table anymore. America has shown such bad faith, I'm not sure he can trust such an agreement.

Look for him to take, and keep, land he believes is strategically important and areas that have high populations of Russians... and let the rest end up however it ends up. And look for our media to blame him for everything... because hey, we still need a scapegoa

Propaganda

 

[Lazaran]

You are falling for the lies you've been told about Putin. It's understandable. The liars are professionals and they keep it going 24-7. But at some point you have to choose between seeing what really is or existing as a willing dupe.

Putin didn't get where he is by winning a series of popularity contests like our leaders do. He climbed the ladder at the KGB. That means he's smart, tough, and ruthless when it comes to obtaining his objectives. He also lived through the high point of the Soviet Union. And while he may not aspire to collecting back the satellite states, he definitely wants to regain the respect, fear, and status the USSR enjoyed.

Is he corrupt and self-enriching? Maybe. If so, he's certainly no worse than our own politicians or many we support around the world. Is he a thug to his political opponents? Maybe. But we have thugs here and being a thug abroad is no impediment to gaining US support.

So why is Putin such a villain? Two reasons: First, our politicians need a scapegoat to direct your attention away from their own corruption, incompetence, and thuggery. If it wasn't Putin, it would be somebody else. Second, Putin can't be bought off or intimidated. He is reliable. He will always do what he believes is in the best interests of Russia... and they hate him for that.

As far as Ukraine, Putin has been willing to end this and give back all territory taken in exchange for an agreement that Ukraine would be neutral and not join NATO. That's all he wanted before the war ever started. We have rejected (and I say WE as in America) that idea in favor of grand plans and fantasies of our own. At this point that deal may not be on the table anymore. America has shown such bad faith, I'm not sure he can trust such an agreement.

Look for him to take, and keep, land he believes is strategically important and areas that have high populations of Russians... and let the rest end up however it ends up. And look for our media to blame him for everything... because hey, we still need a scapegoat!

The murderous Putin and Russia thank you for your aid and comfort.

Fucking traitor. (Unless you’re a Russian troll of course).

JFC

SAD!!!

 

[Fuzzy1975]

The murderous Putin and Russia thank you for your aid and comfort.

Fucking traitor. (Unless you’re a Russian troll of course).

JFC

SAD!!!

He's worse than a troll, he thinks the Bible holds all the answers.

 

[Lazaran]

He's worse than a troll, he thinks the Bible holds all the answers.

The Bible makes more sense than that idiot, and the Bible is completely nonsensical.

*nods*

 

[Rightguide]

I'm supportive still.

Putin continues to appreciate your support

If you don't want to hear it from me, then take it from your own left-wing sources. Time Magazine. This war is all but over for Ukraine:

‘Nobody Believes in Our Victory Like I Do.’ Inside Volodymyr Zelensky’s Struggle to Keep Ukraine in the Fight​

BY SIMON SHUSTER/KYIV
UPDATED: NOVEMBER 1, 2023 10:36 AM EDT | ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED: OCTOBER 30, 2023 8:00 AM EDT

https://time.com/6329188/ukraine-volodymyr-zelensky-interview/

It's a long article but the handwriting is on the wall, even for the ardent Ukraine war supporters over at Time Magazine.

On the alleged "offensive" we've all been waiting for:

"That offensive has proceeded at an excruciating pace and with enormous losses, making it ever more difficult for Zelensky to convince partners that victory is around the corner. With the outbreak of war in Israel, even keeping the world’s attention on Ukraine has become a major challenge."

On Zelensky's frame of mind:

"On the contrary, his belief in Ukraine’s ultimate victory over Russia has hardened into a form that worries some of his advisers. It is immovable, verging on the messianic. “He deludes himself,” one of his closest aides tells me in frustration. “We’re out of options. We’re not winning. But try telling him that.”

On military morale:

"The cold will also make military advances more difficult, locking down the front lines at least until the spring. But Zelensky has refused to accept that. “Freezing the war, to me, means losing it,” he says. Before the winter sets in, his aides warned me to expect major changes in their military strategy and a major shake-up in the President’s team. At least one minister would need to be fired, along with a senior general in charge of the counteroffensive, they said, to ensure accountability for Ukraine’s slow progress at the front. “We’re not moving forward,” says one of Zelensky’s close aides. Some front-line commanders, he continues, have begun refusing orders to advance, even when they came directly from the office of the President. “They just want to sit in the trenches and hold the line,” he says. “But we can’t win a war that way.”

On battlefield capability:

When I raised these claims with a senior military officer, he said that some commanders have little choice in second-guessing orders from the top. At one point in early October, he said, the political leadership in Kyiv demanded an operation to “retake” the city of Horlivka, a strategic outpost in eastern Ukraine that the Russians have held and fiercely defended for nearly a decade. The answer came back in the form of a question: With what? “They don’t have the men or the weapons,” says the officer. “Where are the weapons? Where is the artillery? Where are the new recruits?”

In some branches of the military, the shortage of personnel has become even more dire than the deficit in arms and ammunition. One of Zelensky’s close aides tells me that even if the U.S. and its allies come through with all the weapons they have pledged, “we don’t have the men to use them.”

There is much more on corruption. Read it for yourself. For all practical purposes Ukraine has lost this war.

 

[TJX]

Doofus

hehehe

 

[Fuzzy1975]

If you don't want to hear it from me, then take it from your own left-wing sources. Time Magazine. This war is all but over for Ukraine:

Yes we get you support and suck Putin's cock, no need to keep reminding us of it...lol

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There is much more on corruption. Read it for yourself. For all practical purposes Ukraine has lost this war.

Yes we get you support Putin, no need to keep reminding us of it...lol

 

[Rightguide]

US officials are concerned that Ukraine is running out of troops and have hinted at peace talks with Russia, report says​

Alia Shoaib
Nov 4, 2023, 7:09 AM PDT

Western officials have begun broaching the topic of holding peace negotiations with Russia with the Ukrainian government, a report says.

The conversations have included broadly considering what Ukraine might need to give up to secure a deal, one current senior US official and one former senior US official familiar with the discussions told NBC News.

These discussions have begun because of growing fears among US and European officials that the war has reached a stalemate and that it will be won by whoever can hold out the longest, the officials told the outlet.

Ukraine's long-anticipated counteroffensive began five months ago and has achieved negligible gains.

More here: https://www.businessinsider.com/wes...t-ukraine-consider-peace-talks-russia-2023-11

Slowly but surely the truth I've been speaking about for weeks on end is slowly coming out. Ukraine has no hope for victory in this war. Russia has effective military control of the Russian-speaking Donbas and Crimea. There was never a chance that Russia would allow a NATO force to be stationed on its southern border, no more than the US would allow a peer-level foreign army to be stationed in Mexico. Joe Biden and his tone-deaf leftist appointees have brought this on Ukraine and on ourselves.

 

[ll74]

US officials are concerned that Ukraine is running out of troops and have hinted at peace talks with Russia, report says​

Alia Shoaib
Nov 4, 2023, 7:09 AM PDT

Western officials have begun broaching the topic of holding peace negotiations with Russia with the Ukrainian government, a report says.

The conversations have included broadly considering what Ukraine might need to give up to secure a deal, one current senior US official and one former senior US official familiar with the discussions told NBC News.

These discussions have begun because of growing fears among US and European officials that the war has reached a stalemate and that it will be won by whoever can hold out the longest, the officials told the outlet.

Ukraine's long-anticipated counteroffensive began five months ago and has achieved negligible gains.

More here: https://www.businessinsider.com/wes...t-ukraine-consider-peace-talks-russia-2023-11

Slowly but surely the truth I've been speaking about for weeks on end is slowly coming out. Ukraine has no hope for victory in this war. Russia has effective military control of the Russian-speaking Donbas and Crimea. There was never a chance that Russia would allow a NATO force to be stationed on its southern border, no more than the US would allow a peer-level foreign army to be stationed in Mexico. Joe Biden and his tone-deaf leftist appointees have brought this on Ukraine and on ourselves.

Can't wait to see what you expect Ukraine to give up for your boss

 

[Rightguide]

Can't wait to see what you expect Ukraine to give up for your boss

Fuck off with the "boss" shit. I told you this would happen. I can't help it if you have no education or geographical awareness in Europe. Putin has no desire to govern western Ukraine. He will no doubt insist on keeping Crimea, and the Donbas east of the Dnieper. He might go ahead and accept the status quo as it is today, or he may yet go after Kharkov and Odessa as they were in his mind traditionally Russian cities. The fact is, thanks to Joe Biden Putin would hold the upper hand in any negotiation going forward.

 

[ll74]

Fuck off with the "boss" shit. I told you this would happen. I can't help it if you have no education or geographical awareness in Europe. Putin has no desire to govern western Ukraine. He will no doubt insist on keeping Crimea, and the Donbas east of the Dnieper. He might go ahead and accept the status quo as it is today, or he may yet go after Kharkov and Odessa as they were in his mind traditionally Russian cities. The fact is, thanks to Joe Biden Putin would hold the upper hand in any negotiation going forward.

You predicted this would be won by Russia in the first week.

I know you like to be "military expert" boy
...but you suck at this.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Fuck off with the "boss" shit.

LOL he signs your pay cheques doesn't he? What else would you call him, besides comrade? No one else would post shit like you do, unless they were getting paid.

I told you this would happen.

You didn't tell anyone anything, you posted other peoples op-eds and opinion pieces, which are NOT YOUR WORDS>>>>lol

I can't help it if you have no education or geographical awareness in Europe.

Most Americans don't, but you seem to, so I assume it's because your education wasn't in the USA.

Putin has no desire to govern western Ukraine. He will no doubt insist on keeping Crimea, and the Donbas east of the Dnieper. He might go ahead and accept the status quo as it is today, or he may yet go after Kharkov and Odessa as they were in his mind traditionally Russian cities.

Ahn the bold, the little truth buried in all your bullshit....btw, how would you know "whats in his mind"?

The fact is, thanks to Joe Biden Putin would hold the upper hand in any negotiation going forward.

Putin's on borrowed time. His army's modern military equipment is decimated,he can't supply his troops with the most basic of equipment ( as documented by many thousands of drone video's or selfies from Russians), he can't manufacture enough munitions so he is buying from North Korea and China and Iran.Yes he has a near limitless draw down of combatants to enlist, but soon they will just be issued axes and pitchforks.

How long do you think Putin can keep artificially bolstering his economy, most economic experts give him till sometime near the end of 2024,maybe middle of 2025 at best, then the wheels fall off the cart.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Fuck off with the "boss" shit. I told you this would happen. I can't help it if you have no education or geographical awareness in Europe. Putin has no desire to govern western Ukraine. He will no doubt insist on keeping Crimea, and the Donbas east of the Dnieper. He might go ahead and accept the status quo as it is today, or he may yet go after Kharkov and Odessa as they were in his mind traditionally Russian cities. The fact is, thanks to Joe Biden Putin would hold the upper hand in any negotiation going forward.

Thanks to Biden we have a damn good negotiating point. What are you smoking? I would really wants some and I would love to see when you said this would happen because I'm calling absolute bullshit on that. None of us expected this. NO ONE.

Besides that doesn't change the fact that your Boss hates democracy and so do you and so does the Right. I hate this conflict but I get that to the American Right it is an extension of our personal politics most notably J6.

 

[Sean Renaud]

You predicted this would be won by Russia in the first week.

I know you like to be "military expert" boy
...but you suck at this.

Not gonna lie, I predicted no more than twelve weeks. At this point I'm just searching for enough rags to get all this fucking egg off.

 

[Rightguide]

You predicted this would be won by Russia in the first week.

I know you like to be "military expert" boy
...but you suck at this.

Show me. I might have predicted the end of the war in week one, but I doubt I predicted the war would only last one week.

I'm right about most of everything. I was right about the fairytale of "Russian collusion" you literally worshipped at the feet of for years. The Mueller Investigation, Crossfire Hurricane, the FISA abuses, FBI corruption, that both impeachments would fail to bring down Trump. It goes on and on.

 

[Rightguide]

Thanks to Biden we have a damn good negotiating point. What are you smoking? I would really wants some and I would love to see when you said this would happen because I'm calling absolute bullshit on that. None of us expected this. NO ONE.

Besides that doesn't change the fact that your Boss hates democracy and so do you and so does the Right. I hate this conflict but I get that to the American Right it is an extension of our personal politics most notably J6.

Fuck off dipshit. Tell us in detail about that strong negotiating point.