Vacate Watch - Speaker Mike Johnson (R - LA)

[RachelWalsh]

So.... I guess this is some sort of progress at least....

 

[icanhelp1]

As opposed to the NY Times lying about the hospital bombings causing the cancelation of critically important meetings with Jordan and other Arab countries with Biden, riots in the streets.

 

[Bn2f]

What do you think all this means; Think about it. We did a lot of similar actions during covid.

You POS!
Apologize!
I directly had conversation with dMallord on that subject matter. The adults in the room were positing solutions to the republican problem. Those were, in his opinion, possible actions to be taken in case American interests were at risk. At no point did he advocate for those to be employed.
Apologize! Now!

 

[icanhelp1]

You POS!
Apologize!
I directly had conversation with dMallord on that subject matter. The adults in the room were positing solutions to the republican problem. Those were, in his opinion, possible actions to be taken in case American interests were at risk. At no point did he advocate for those to be employed.
Apologize! Now!

What do you think that means!!!

Path Two, under the Emergency Powers Act, the US President has the ability to protect America's best interests by Presidental declaration of funding the war efforts, declaring America is in danger. That, too, would be subject to review, eventually. But he could temporarily override Congressional inaction due to an extraordinary state of paralysis in Congress. The clear and present danger environment and the public's will would come into play. And those Supreme Court robed people.

Was the Capital bombed that a presidential override was necessary. The house was in full session.

 

[ll74]

We have a speaker, move on! I predicted they would solve it on their own while you and DMallord were ready to tear down the whole system , intervene with the high court, the senate and side step the constitution.

The thread is about the Speaker election, dip shit.

Your party demonstrated that they aren't fit to govern and you're an idiot to completely ignore that. DMallord and other observers know that this will happen again because the Republican party will vacate the speakership again.

Your party wants to burn it all to the ground.

 

[Bn2f]

The thread is about the Speaker election, dip shit.

Your party demonstrated that they aren't fit to govern and you're an idiot to completely ignore that. DMallord and other observers know that this will happen again because the Republican party will vacate the speakership again.

Your party wants to burn it all to the ground.

Yeah, so my belief is that come November 17th the government is going to shut down because that’s what trump wants from his republican sycophants. It will probably be no more than 7 days, but that will be enough to feed trump’s talking points against Biden. Republicans will then quietly come back with a resolution that is similar to McCarthy’s. It will include aid to Israel but not Ukraine. It will last until sometime in the middle of January and then House republicans will, believing trump will be too preoccupied with campaigning in Iowa to pay attention, pass a long term budget with Ukrainian aid.
And yes I pulled that all out my ass and I still believe it’s better than nothing which is the only thing we’ve heard from house republicans - nuthin.

 

[icanhelp1]

The thread is about the Speaker election, dip shit.

Your party demonstrated that they aren't fit to govern and you're an idiot to completely ignore that. DMallord and other observers know that this will happen again because the Republican party will vacate the speakership again.

Your party wants to burn it all to the ground.

Now that we have a speaker they can vote on rule changes if they deem it necessary. I doubt they will change rules because this hiccup could happen to the democrats and dems don't take well to losing power especially to a republican president. We'll see.

 

[Rotadom]

 

[icanhelp1]

Yeah, so my belief is that come November 17th the government is going to shut down because that’s what trump wants from his republican sycophants. It will probably be no more than 7 days, but that will be enough to feed trump’s talking points against Biden. Republicans will then quietly come back with a resolution that is similar to McCarthy’s. It will include aid to Israel but not Ukraine. It will last until sometime in the middle of January and then House republicans will, believing trump will be too preoccupied with campaigning in Iowa to pay attention, pass a long term budget with Ukrainian aid.
And yes I pulled that all out my ass and I still believe it’s better than nothing which is the only thing we’ve heard from house republicans - nuthin.

I wouldn't be surprised if the house passes a bill to fund Israel tomorrow. I predict the senate will knock it down because Ukraine funding will not be included in the bill.

At least the house version.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Are Matt and Ro Bros?

“Gaetz says he is still open to raising the threshold on motion to vacate the chair if he gets some of the bipartisan reforms floated by Rep. Ro Khanna (D-CA).”

https://x.com/chadpergram/status/1717262019668095480?s=46&t=D4wPadUSm31flBzHVSwUxA

 

[Chernosoth]

Does anyone want to put odds on MJ becoming president? At least some of the reps must have been thinking about in picking a speaker.

 

[ll74]

Now that we have a speaker they can vote on rule changes if they deem it necessary. I doubt they will change rules because this hiccup could happen to the democrats and dems don't take well to losing power especially to a republican president. We'll see.

They aren't voting on rule changes...because the party is dysfunctional. And they will lose the house

 

[icanhelp1]

Johnson to Jeffries - "we're going to find common ground for the American people"

Gaetz (probably) later today - "we need to get rid of Johnson"

I think house republicans are all done with Gaetz IMHO

 

[Rotadom]

I think house republicans are all done with Gaetz IMHO

You're having a very good day. Please entertain us through the weekend.

 

[dmallord]

It gave the party a chance to refocus, in my opinion it was needed. The pub house is more united now.

No, they will not be focused, nor more united. You cannot change a zebra's stripes overnight. Those are just not logical statements. That's my opinion with some well-founded basis on a lifetime of observation.

They merely seem united for now. They are the same individuals, mentalities, and mindsets that sat down with their families at dinner last night, slept, and returned to vote. A vote the American people tuned into to see if they would, again, attempt political suicide.

The one thing they saw in the mirror as they dressed this morning was that gallows noose with their names on it if they continued to do more of the same. In that sense, it was a wake-up call - they fell in lockstep to avoid another defeat at the ballot box in the coming election year – and picked Mike Johnson. They ran out of time, and talent, and needed a Trumpian selection, or the MAGA gang of eight would have torpedoed the ship once more.

And who is Mike Johnson, America is asking? Short answer: acknowledged as more civil than most extreme MAGA subscribers, a twelfth-year congressman, an advocate of MAGA+ ideologies, an advocate for throwing out ballots, disingenuous of honest elections, and Trump endorsed. Who believes he can reach across the aisle and get things done? Anyone?

America breathes more easily tonight, but in a few days, the honeymoon for Congressman Johnson will be tested again and again.

 

[dmallord]

The best part is that your party's candidate is a convicted rapist and traitor.
Your party is a disaster and can't even fix your Speaker problem.

Where is your personal integrity, dumbass?

Just a minor legal point - he was convicted of sexual abuse and for defamation later. What he did was rape - somehow the law has some grey shades to how much the woman resisted. Otherwise, you got this right.

 

[ll74]

I think house republicans are all done with Gaetz IMHO

Lol

You're daft

 

[ll74]

I think house republicans are all done with Gaetz IMHO

I think Gaetz is the face of your party.

At least that is what Democrats should make him...easiest campaign ever.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I think house republicans are all done with Gaetz IMHO

Really? They have a four vote cushion. They need Gaetzs, and he know it....

 

[butters]

Just a minor legal point - he was convicted of sexual abuse and for defamation later. What he did was rape - somehow the law has some grey shades to how much the woman resisted. Otherwise, you got this right.

i might be wrong, but i think i read the reason he didn't get convicted of rape was the fact Carroll was unsure whether it was his finger/s or his dick that he penetrated her with and where he was being tried it has to be agreed that penile penetration occurred: in a lot of other states rape is counted in both instances, and some also include non-con penetration with an object

 

[butters]

so now they used his vote, republicans are gung-ho to give santos the boot asap

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...tp&cvid=1284fdecfa8549ab8898e5453514e0ee&ei=7

 

[RoryN]

New speaker of the House Mike Johnson once wrote in support of the criminalization of gay sex​

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/25/politics/mike-johnson-gay-sex-criminalization-kfile/index.html

 

[YDB95]

Heather Thomas, the actress from The Fall Guy?

I think so. It looks like her and she does identify herself as an actress.

R v W did help, it stopped a red wave. What should have been a 60 +/- seat majority was whittled down to 9 seats.

A broken clock is right twice a day.

 

[dmallord]

What do you think that means!!!


Was the Capital bombed that a presidential override was necessary. The house was in full session.

You POS!
Apologize!
I directly had conversation with dMallord on that subject matter. The adults in the room were positing solutions to the republican problem. Those were, in his opinion, possible actions to be taken in case American interests were at risk. At no point did he advocate for those to be employed.
Apologize! Now!

Thank you, for helping Icanhelp1 understand the points we discussed. I also made this statement in post #628 to Icanhelp1 directly as the dialogue continued; it points out I wasn't for burning down the house, just explaining the valid and legal options available if dire circumstances require it:

"I understand your stance; it's reasonable if things were normal. But desperate times call for drastic measures. It did during 9-11. It was a national emergency, and at this point, I still affirm my belief we are rudderless in Congress and need to act more quickly to affirm we stand with our allies and that the world sees we are not in a state of paralysis as war rages. It seems President Biden, The Senate, and The Supreme Court are aligned with you and have more patience than I have over this international embarrassment. They are allowing the Republican clown show to play out. [I don't plan to march on Washington to force the issue.] I'll bite my tongue and watch it play out as well. After all, I am a law-abiding patriot."

 

[Fuzzy1975]

so now they used his vote, republicans are gung-ho to give santos the boot asap

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...tp&cvid=1284fdecfa8549ab8898e5453514e0ee&ei=7

The resolution will never pass, they need his vote....but this gives them plausible deniability. ( the New York members that is)