Vacate Watch - Speaker Mike Johnson (R - LA)

[sandybrooke]

I opened this to read what I thought would be intelligent input into the situation of the speaker of the house. Nothing but a bunch of assholes calling each other names.
There, I joined the crowd.

 

[ll74]

I opened this to read what I thought would be intelligent input into the situation of the speaker of the house. Nothing but a bunch of assholes calling each other names.
There, I joined the crowd.

It's meant as an informational thread with updates. Some of it is. Welcome. Please feel free to add your perspective along with any new source info.

 

[phrodeau]

Not sure what shot is, but if you misspelled *shit* beware of K77 she’ll descend upon you with the wrath of God, then again maybe not, you’re part of the posse.

151; -- Michelle Obama, wife of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, is taking heat for saying Monday at a Milwaukee rally that "for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country. Doesn’t sound pro American to me.

Sorry, you need to explain why you believe that someone expressing pride in America is “anti American.”

 

[ll74]

Not sure what shot is, but if you misspelled *shit* beware of K77 she’ll descend upon you with the wrath of God, then again maybe not, you’re part of the posse.

151; -- Michelle Obama, wife of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, is taking heat for saying Monday at a Milwaukee rally that "for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country. Doesn’t sound pro American to me.

Sorry, you need to explain why you believe that someone expressing pride in America is “anti American.”

Jfc - plenty of other threads about Obama and other petty squabbles.

Please take it elsewhere. Thanks.

 

[adrina]

Sorry, you need to explain why you believe that someone expressing pride in America is “anti American.”

They're used to the subject of their adulation who compares America to third world shit holes.

 

[Comshaw]

Buck says he’s being evicted from Windsor office after voting against Jordan
A spokesperson for U.S. Rep. Ken Buck said the landlord of their Windsor office is terminating their lease after the congressman voted against Rep. Jim Jordan’s speakership bid.

On NBC News Thursday, the congressman said, “I’ve been evicted from my office in Colorado. I have notice of an eviction because the landlord is mad with my voting record on the speaker issue.”


FFS


Comshaw

 

[Bn2f]

27 days and counting to shutdown.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Buck says he’s being evicted from Windsor office after voting against Jordan
A spokesperson for U.S. Rep. Ken Buck said the landlord of their Windsor office is terminating their lease after the congressman voted against Rep. Jim Jordan’s speakership bid.

On NBC News Thursday, the congressman said, “I’ve been evicted from my office in Colorado. I have notice of an eviction because the landlord is mad with my voting record on the speaker issue.”


FFS


Comshaw

Eating their own!!

I really doubt the Congressman will have a problem finding another office.

I'm sure that landlord will also have difficulty getting the ear of his congressional rep too, if needed.....

 

[jaF0]

Buck says he’s being evicted from Windsor office after voting against Jordan
A spokesperson for U.S. Rep. Ken Buck said the landlord of their Windsor office is terminating their lease after the congressman voted against Rep. Jim Jordan’s speakership bid.

On NBC News Thursday, the congressman said, “I’ve been evicted from my office in Colorado. I have notice of an eviction because the landlord is mad with my voting record on the speaker issue.”


FFS


Comshaw

He could probably fight that and win, but why would he want to?

 

[Fuzzy1975]

He could probably fight that and win, but why would he want to?

exactly!

 

[Bn2f]

Eating their own!!

I really doubt the Congressman will have a problem finding another office.

I'm sure that landlord will also have difficulty getting the ear of his congressional rep too, if needed.....

Yeah, this admission by the owner of this particular property should probably raise a red flag on pay to play access, but we don't have a functioning House and as long as George Santos still is needed in order for republicans to keep their majority this feels like small potatoes for the Ethics committee.

 

[RoryN]

I'm also announcing my intention to run for Speaker.

I didn't want to feel left out.

 

[ll74]

More evidence of the Speaker bullshit being a positive for the Democratic party. MAGA kids are already discussing a third party.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1715455439486218343

 

[jaF0]

Third parties have been discussed repeatedly over recent years. Tea Party times for one. Then not too long ago real 'Pubs wanted to start one to break away from the Orange Cult.

So far, Nada.

 

[RoryN]

More evidence of the Speaker bullshit being a positive for the Democratic party. MAGA kids are already discussing a third party.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1715455439486218343

"America First": good name for a MAGAt party.

You can just envision the American & Confederate flags mounted on it, like it's a pick-up.

 

[ll74]

Third parties have been discussed repeatedly over recent years. Tea Party times for one. Then not too long ago real 'Pubs wanted to start one to break away from the Orange Cult.

So far, Nada.

I'll be interested in the staying power of this crew and the effort they put in.

My guess is that they don't have any fortitude to do it. I do think it will dilute the GOP candidates that come out of the primaries in regards to electability...which ultimately is a win for Dems.

 

[phrodeau]

27 days and counting to shutdown.

Plenty of time to hold votes for the dozen or so nominees, then the dropouts endorsing two or three leading candidates, then the negotiating down to one, who will just squeak by with a majority.

 

[dmallord]

I opened this to read what I thought would be intelligent input into the situation of the speaker of the house. Nothing but a bunch of assholes calling each other names.
There, I joined the crowd.

Welcome to the cesspool of Lit's politics. That's also how I found it when I wandered in, looking for compelling thought. Nah, just the typical hate-isms of 'My party is better than yours.' and 'Oh yeah, mine at least wears underpants.' kind of responses. [Those Melanie, Melania, and Michelle rants, for example.]

Regarding the house speaker, that selection process still needs to be solved. Who would have thought two diverse and erudite groups of intelligent men and women would be unable to reach an amicable resolution in our shared time of crisis? [Yep, just a bit of editing humor this morning; I couldn't resist.]

We arrived at this parallax situation because the majority party gets to write and rewrite the procedural rules over the objections of the other party or parties. Somehow, the representatives who used to address each other as 'distinguished gentleperson from [insert state here], and the rebuttals were done similarly, now address each other with 'Fuck you,' and 'I'll kick your ass, asshole, just come to my office for that.' They don't stop at insults. Their team now calls the wives and threatens them with abuse and death. The party in power refuses to offer solutions to get out of the quagmire Americans expect of them as leaders. It adheres to the definition of insanity: Behave the same way and expect different outcomes.

There seems to be no adult in the house [no pun intended]. How do you fix what the Constitutional framers never conceptualized as a possibility of our inability to govern? I am surprised that legal scholars have yet to step up and offer erudite solutions to this mess. The process needs to be fixed. Isn't there some intervention, a rabbit-out-the-hat move, that the other two branches can invoke in such a scenario? If it doesn't exist, one branch should invoke a temporary claim to have one and put the house in order with a temporary leader empowered with emergency authority. The Pro-tem Speaker role supposedly did that when it was created; however, even that individual's rules are riddled with inept powers in a crisis. His hands are tied behind his back: the ability to call Congress into session, but only to recognize the legitimacy of a new speaker's rise to power and some watered-down control. The Republicans wrote that set of rules.

Envision this: a Republican body stands at the bottom of a rapidly filling well. The only way out is up. Like rats, they climb over one another's crushed bodies to reach the top. Alas, they cannot reach the rim and pull themselves out. Meanwhile, the President, the Senate, the Supreme Court, and the American public surround the rim, watching the spectacle. All chant, "You can do it. You can do it! Jump higher!" Meanwhile, some quiet Democrat is lowering a rope - but the Republicans left standing at the bottom as it fills with water refuse to take the offered rope because a lowly Democrat holds the other end of its tenuous lifeline. They seem bent on death before salvation and rationality prevail.

Will Rogers probably foresaw this event when he said, "Congress meets tomorrow morning. Let us all pray: Oh Lord, give us strength to bear that which is about to be inflicted upon us. Be merciful with them, oh Lord, for they know not what they’re doing. Amen.”

And now, back to our regular entertainment segments. Thanks for tuning in to my take on Will Rogers' viewpoint.

 

[ll74]

Welcome to the cesspool of Lit's politics. That's also how I found it when I wandered in, looking for compelling thought. Nah, just the typical hate-isms of 'My party is better than yours.' and 'Oh yeah, mine at least wears underpants.' kind of responses. [Those Melanie, Melania, and Michelle rants, for example.]

Regarding the house speaker, that selection process still needs to be solved. Who would have thought two diverse and erudite groups of intelligent men and women would be unable to reach an amicable resolution in our shared time of crisis? [Yep, just a bit of editing humor this morning; I couldn't resist.]

We arrived at this parallax situation because the majority party gets to write and rewrite the procedural rules over the objections of the other party or parties. Somehow, the representatives who used to address each other as 'distinguished gentleperson from [insert state here], and the rebuttals were done similarly, now address each other with 'Fuck you,' and 'I'll kick your ass, asshole, just come to my office for that.' They don't stop at insults. Their team now calls the wives and threatens them with abuse and death. The party in power refuses to offer solutions to get out of the quagmire Americans expect of them as leaders. It adheres to the definition of insanity: Behave the same way and expect different outcomes.

There seems to be no adult in the house [no pun intended]. How do you fix what the Constitutional framers never conceptualized as a possibility of our inability to govern? I am surprised that legal scholars have yet to step up and offer erudite solutions to this mess. The process needs to be fixed. Isn't there some intervention, a rabbit-out-the-hat move, that the other two branches can invoke in such a scenario? If it doesn't exist, one branch should invoke a temporary claim to have one and put the house in order with a temporary leader empowered with emergency authority. The Pro-tem Speaker role supposedly did that when it was created; however, even that individual's rules are riddled with inept powers in a crisis. His hands are tied behind his back: the ability to call Congress into session, but only to recognize the legitimacy of a new speaker's rise to power and some watered-down control. The Republicans wrote that set of rules.

Envision this: a Republican body stands at the bottom of a rapidly filling well. The only way out is up. Like rats, they climb over one another's crushed bodies to reach the top. Alas, they cannot reach the rim and pull themselves out. Meanwhile, the President, the Senate, the Supreme Court, and the American public surround the rim, watching the spectacle. All chant, "You can do it. You can do it! Jump higher!" Meanwhile, some quiet Democrat is lowering a rope - but the Republicans left standing at the bottom as it fills with water refuse to take the offered rope because a lowly Democrat holds the other end of its tenuous lifeline. They seem bent on death before salvation and rationality prevail.

Will Rogers probably foresaw this event when he said, "Congress meets tomorrow morning. Let us all pray: Oh Lord, give us strength to bear that which is about to be inflicted upon us. Be merciful with them, oh Lord, for they know not what they’re doing. Amen.”

And now, back to our regular entertainment segments. Thanks for tuning in to my take on Will Rogers' viewpoint.

Good summation.

I wonder if one of the other branches could be compelled to act.

 

[Bn2f]

Agreed. Good summation, but... the Melania thingy. One person gave, shall we be gracious and say, negligent misinformation and then others chimed in with artful corrections. I make no apologies for my gleeful participation. But to the matter at hand - what can the other branches do? Boehbert, Mace, and MGT through various quotes have been railing against the male dominated republican establishment. House republicans are all but ignoring MCConnell. Gaetz and Jordan are seemingly doing the bidding of the candidate that's leading their party for the nomination and his motives are always selfish with an eye towards polling vs Biden. I know that Jeffries has reached out to moderate republican members, but as noted, none has felt the water yet reach their nose to grab any lifeline. This, as it has always been, a problem for the party with no practical solutions to anything for themselves to solve.

 

[coati]

Boy, that MAGAt Jim Jordan sure did a good job of unifying the GOP.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Welcome to the cesspool of Lit's politics. That's also how I found it when I wandered in, looking for compelling thought. Nah, just the typical hate-isms of 'My party is better than yours.' and 'Oh yeah, mine at least wears underpants.' kind of responses. [Those Melanie, Melania, and Michelle rants, for example.]

Regarding the house speaker, that selection process still needs to be solved. Who would have thought two diverse and erudite groups of intelligent men and women would be unable to reach an amicable resolution in our shared time of crisis? [Yep, just a bit of editing humor this morning; I couldn't resist.]

We arrived at this parallax situation because the majority party gets to write and rewrite the procedural rules over the objections of the other party or parties. Somehow, the representatives who used to address each other as 'distinguished gentleperson from [insert state here], and the rebuttals were done similarly, now address each other with 'Fuck you,' and 'I'll kick your ass, asshole, just come to my office for that.' They don't stop at insults. Their team now calls the wives and threatens them with abuse and death. The party in power refuses to offer solutions to get out of the quagmire Americans expect of them as leaders. It adheres to the definition of insanity: Behave the same way and expect different outcomes.

There seems to be no adult in the house [no pun intended]. How do you fix what the Constitutional framers never conceptualized as a possibility of our inability to govern? I am surprised that legal scholars have yet to step up and offer erudite solutions to this mess. The process needs to be fixed. Isn't there some intervention, a rabbit-out-the-hat move, that the other two branches can invoke in such a scenario? If it doesn't exist, one branch should invoke a temporary claim to have one and put the house in order with a temporary leader empowered with emergency authority. The Pro-tem Speaker role supposedly did that when it was created; however, even that individual's rules are riddled with inept powers in a crisis. His hands are tied behind his back: the ability to call Congress into session, but only to recognize the legitimacy of a new speaker's rise to power and some watered-down control. The Republicans wrote that set of rules.

Envision this: a Republican body stands at the bottom of a rapidly filling well. The only way out is up. Like rats, they climb over one another's crushed bodies to reach the top. Alas, they cannot reach the rim and pull themselves out. Meanwhile, the President, the Senate, the Supreme Court, and the American public surround the rim, watching the spectacle. All chant, "You can do it. You can do it! Jump higher!" Meanwhile, some quiet Democrat is lowering a rope - but the Republicans left standing at the bottom as it fills with water refuse to take the offered rope because a lowly Democrat holds the other end of its tenuous lifeline. They seem bent on death before salvation and rationality prevail.

Will Rogers probably foresaw this event when he said, "Congress meets tomorrow morning. Let us all pray: Oh Lord, give us strength to bear that which is about to be inflicted upon us. Be merciful with them, oh Lord, for they know not what they’re doing. Amen.”

And now, back to our regular entertainment segments. Thanks for tuning in to my take on Will Rogers' viewpoint.

The framers envisioned situations like this being resolved by the offenders being voted out of office. Once people stop voting for Republicans, the House will start functioning again.

 

[Bn2f]

You have a party that deposed their speaker because he passed a short term spending bill that didn’t fund Ukraine. Now, they’re struggling to choose a leader who will immediately face passing a spending bill that will demand, because of American security interests abroad, funding to Israel AND Ukraine. .

 

[Bn2f]

IMO it’s as if they’re advocating for a leader who conveys strength but one who also has Neville Chamberlain like qualities. But that would be crazy for them, right? Right???

 

[dmallord]

Good summation.

I wonder if one of the other branches could be compelled to act.

Yes, there are other avenues for that to take place. It takes some brave intestinal fortitude from our leadership.

The Constitution doesn't have any provisions to fix the current paralysis of the House of Representatives, as previously noted.

Two possible paths can compel action:

Path One, the US Senate can call for an emergency joint session of both houses and, under those guidelines, evoke actions that would fund the government and hammer out the funding for the war efforts without having a Speaker of the House. It would eventually be subject to appeal to the Supreme Court, but with pressure from concerned citizens, it is 'doable.' There are a few past precedence situations, e.g., September 11, 2001, was such a case over the Twin Towers attack on our country. Congress jointly passed that funding, and it went into action immediately.

Path Two, under the Emergency Powers Act, the US President has the ability to protect America's best interests by Presidental declaration of funding the war efforts, declaring America is in danger. That, too, would be subject to review, eventually. But he could temporarily override Congressional inaction due to an extraordinary state of paralysis in Congress. The clear and present danger environment and the public's will would come into play. And those Supreme Court robed people.

Anyone higher than a Speaker Pro-tempore want to stick out their necks - step up for the well-being of our Country first before politics?