Alabama lawmakers have refused to create a second majority-Black congressional district.

[BabyBoomer50s]

When did any of these politicians testify under oath that they believe what they’re doing is legal?

Why do we have to let chips fall? Why not just robustly follow the court order?

Elected representatives typically get sworn in upon taking office. Usually they swear to obey the law. Maybe you can investigate to find out if that happens in Dixie.

 

[HisArpy]

Gotta admit, repubs are way better at gerrymandering than dems. Voters scare repubs

^someone hasn't ever seen the districting maps of NY...

 

[jomar]

^someone hasn't ever seen the districting maps of NY...

There are exceptions to the rule, ya know

 

[HisArpy]

There are exceptions to the rule, ya know

^or California's, or...

Basically, if you look at any Congressional district map, you'll see gerrymandering. And it doesn't matter which party is in charge.

 

[jaF0]

Federal judges review Alabama’s new congressional map, lack of 2nd majority-Black district

A panel of federal judges on Monday began a review Alabama’s redrawn congressional map which opponents argue blatantly defies the court’s mandate to create a second district where Black voters have an opportunity to influence the outcome of an election.

 

[jaF0]

Bad, Bad, Bama



In an order released Tuesday, the judges said they are "deeply troubled that the State enacted a map that the State readily admits does not provide the remedy we said federal law requires."

"We are not aware of any other case in which a state legislature — faced with a federal court order declaring that its electoral plan unlawfully dilutes minority votes and requiring a plan that provides an additional opportunity district — responded with a plan that the state concedes does not provide that district," said U.S. Circuit Judge Stanley Marcus, U.S. District Judge Anna Manasco and U.S. District Judge Terry Moorer. "The law requires the creation of an additional district that affords Black Alabamians, like everyone else, a fair and reasonable opportunity to elect candidates of their choice. The 2023 Plan plainly fails to do so.

For the 2024 elections, the judges have assigned court-appointed experts to draw three potential maps that each include two districts where Black voters have a realistic opportunity of electing their preferred candidate. Those redistricting proposals are due to the court by Sept. 25."


https://www.npr.org/2023/09/05/1193749552/alabama-congressional-map

 

[HisArpy]

They are "deeply troubled" because they have realized that their decision isn't worth the paper it's printed on. Basically, Alabama can tell the courts to go pound sand and there's not a whole lot the court can do about it other than grouse about their impotence and posture.

There's also a Federal case out of N. Carolina which says that the Court doesn't have the authority to draw redistricting maps. The SCOTUS has granted Certiorari to hear the case but it's still good law. So the good Circuit Court Judge's "court appointed experts" have no road and Alabama can ignore them at its pleasure.

 

[ll74]

So once again, something has to be redesigned in order to let losers pretend to be winners.

I think you just declare a run for President.

 

[Lazaran]

•
I thought Harpy’s comment would be the dumbest one in this thread, but k_a_b proved me wrong.

 

[HisArpy]

So once again, something has to be redesigned in order to let losers pretend to be winners.

You know how it goes whenever "equity" is substituted for "equality."

 

[Dribble]

Sooner or later...Americans will accept the fact that there is only one outcome that minimizes the violence the Right so desperately desires. The end will be the same. Only thing that changes is how much will be saved

 

[HisArpy]

Sooner or later...Americans will accept the fact that there is only one outcome that minimizes the violence the Right so desperately desires. The end will be the same. Only thing that changes is how much will be saved

Has anyone else noticed that those who push the "it's the Right who are the violent ones" bullshit are the same ones who are always angry over not getting everything they think they deserve FOR FREE?

 

[jaF0]

It was the GQP design intended to protect the GQP from losing that got thrown out.

 

[dkovic77]

So sad the right can’t just follow the law. Instead they are likely to lose ground. They had a chance to have two at 50.1% and screwed the pooch on that one. I’m sure they will need to clear a higher hurdle now.

Poor losers. But I guess they were tired of all the winning they were promised.

Even their “senator” doesn’t even live there.

He can hold up our military from anywhere I guess.

 

[HisArpy]

It was the GQP design intended to protect the GQP from losing that got thrown out.

The State redistricting map was found to be unconstitutional and a new map was ordered to be drawn. The State redrew the map as they felt it should be. At that point the court got miffed because the State didn't do what the court wanted them to do so the court has now broken the law by ordering "experts" to do what is deemed illegal under both the Constitution and legal precedent. ONLY the States can determine the places for "choosing Senators." (Art 1, Sec. 4, Cl. 1) Those places are called "electoral districts" and determining their boundaries is within the sole province of the individual States under the US Constitution. (See: Moore v. Harper)

The State can legitimately tell the court and its "experts" to fuck off because an illegal order is null and void ab initio.

 

[butters]

A three-judge panel refused Monday to pause an order to draw new congressional districts in Alabama while the state pursues another round of appeals to the U.S. Supreme Court.

The judges rejected Alabama’s request to stay the ruling, which found the state diluted the voting strength of Black residents and ordered a special master to draw new lines.

The judges, in rejecting Alabama’s request for a stay, said state voters should not have to endure another congressional election under an “unlawful map.”

the gerrymanderers plan on appealing to the Supreme Court


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/j...3103177c23e4d79bd4e2c65d4c696da&ei=57#image=1

 

[RobDownSouth]

They are "deeply troubled" because they have realized that their decision isn't worth the paper it's printed on. Basically, Alabama can tell the courts to go pound sand and there's not a whole lot the court can do about it other than grouse about their impotence and posture.

There's also a Federal case out of N. Carolina which says that the Court doesn't have the authority to draw redistricting maps. The SCOTUS has granted Certiorari to hear the case but it's still good law. So the good Circuit Court Judge's "court appointed experts" have no road and Alabama can ignore them at its pleasure.

Did they not cover teh Voting Rights Act in your correspondence law school curriculum?

 

[Chobham]

The State redistricting map was found to be unconstitutional and a new map was ordered to be drawn. The State redrew the map as they felt it should be. At that point the court got miffed because the State didn't do what the court wanted them to do so the court has now broken the law by ordering "experts" to do what is deemed illegal under both the Constitution and legal precedent. ONLY the States can determine the places for "choosing Senators." (Art 1, Sec. 4, Cl. 1) Those places are called "electoral districts" and determining their boundaries is within the sole province of the individual States under the US Constitution. (See: Moore v. Harper)

The State can legitimately tell the court and its "experts" to fuck off because an illegal order is null and void ab initio.

Truth.

 

[RobDownSouth]

When discussing redistricting, maps are useful.

Thanks for sharing that link. It would appear that the Alabama legislature is thumbing their collective noses at the federal judiciary.

 

[jaF0]

https://apnews.com/article/alabama-redistricting-0c3a790313a19f1d2f65d986ba52e3a2


I'm still not sure I agree that race, party, income, religion or any other demographics should be primary factors.

 

[YDB95]

https://apnews.com/article/alabama-redistricting-0c3a790313a19f1d2f65d986ba52e3a2


I'm still not sure I agree that race, party, income, religion or any other demographics should be primary factors.

It will be nice when we get to the point where we have the luxury of treating race, class and religion like they don't matter. For better or worse, currently they do.

 

[Dribble]

The Fascist State of Alabama will ignore today's Ruling as well.

 

[phrodeau]

The State redistricting map was found to be unconstitutional and a new map was ordered to be drawn. The State redrew the map as they felt it should be. At that point the court got miffed because the State didn't do what the court wanted them to do so the court has now broken the law by ordering "experts" to do what is deemed illegal under both the Constitution and legal precedent. ONLY the States can determine the places for "choosing Senators." (Art 1, Sec. 4, Cl. 1) Those places are called "electoral districts" and determining their boundaries is within the sole province of the individual States under the US Constitution. (See: Moore v. Harper)

The State can legitimately tell the court and its "experts" to fuck off because an illegal order is null and void ab initio.

The SCOTUS says that you’re full of shit.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/09/26/politics/supreme-court-alabama-redistricting/index.html

 

[HisArpy]

The SCOTUS says that you’re full of shit.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/09/26/politics/supreme-court-alabama-redistricting/index.html

GO FUCK YOURSELF

 

[phrodeau]

GO FUCK YOURSELF

Tell it to the judge.