Writing for conflicting fandoms

[MediocreAuthor]

So as many of you already know, I primarily write very unrealistic hetro NC/R, (mostly resistance, I suppose) and I write both dominant females and males.

I have come to the conclusion that perhaps my maledom followers have been dissatisfied with my femdom stories, and vice versa. I think perhaps the two camps are low-scoring the other's stories, to encourage me to write their instead.

Does anyone else write to two (or more) commonly differing groups, and suspect that your overall scores probably suffer done as your followers downvote what they dislike and up vote only what they like...?

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For the record, I love both, and will continue to write both because I consider it enjoyable. Scores matter to me, but so does having fun.

 

[RejectReality]

Hence why I have three pen names. It's not all that difficult to find out they're connected, but large segments of folks won't go beyond watching out for your name, or maybe hitting you with a favorite as a bookmark. I compartmentalize and avoid a lot of that "I want more of this, not that" stuff.

 

[bumpercars]

If the title and tagline make it clear which category the story falls into, then they have no one to blame but themselves.

Do you have comments that support your hypothesis about the two camps? I find that vote counts are frequently inscrutable but comments are usually easier to interpret.

No matter what the votes and comments say, though, I think you have the right idea by writing what you enjoy.

 

[Euphony]

Hence why I have three pen names. It's not all that difficult to find out they're connected, but large segments of folks won't go beyond watching out for your name, or maybe hitting you with a favorite as a bookmark. I compartmentalize and avoid a lot of that "I want more of this, not that" stuff.

Alts get a bad rep but, employed non-nefariously, they have positives, especially for fetish-y yet simultaneously pearl clutching readerships.

Despite assumptions, it's not always about keeping scores up/the red H trains running on time.

Sometimes it's about skipping any drama. This place has been a perpetual motion machine of drama.

 

[Euphony]

For the record, I love both, and will continue to write both because I consider it enjoyable. Scores matter to me, but so does having fun.

Healthy attitude. If I can fold in normal readership placation into what I'm trying to express with a work, happy to do it. (honestly, it's often a fun puzzle to solve)

But the second I feel servitude vibes, I'm out. Probably overcorrecting but I'm of the feeling I've got WAY more invested in even a singular chapter than any reader does in the whole piece and I have to protect that creative side or my writing endeavors on the whole will unspool.

 

[oneagainst]

I have come to the conclusion that perhaps my maledom followers have been dissatisfied with my femdom stories, and vice versa. I think perhaps the two camps are low-scoring the other's stories, to encourage me to write their instead.

Does anyone else write to two (or more) commonly differing groups, and suspect that your overall scores probably suffer done as your followers downvote what they dislike and up vote only what they like...?

Yeah, and it's happening in real time right now on my latest. Only Consenting Adults spans the created universe so it's got femdom, maledom, thrupples, bdsm, cheating wives, fetish etc.

Seems I've picked up a few who are absolutely determined to punish for non compliance, just watched the scores drop off a cliff in the space of 3 votes.

The thing is, I always knew that the people who follow me come from all these different camps and bringing them together like this was always going to be a car crash. But, what other choice do I have? I'm ending a nine book story arc and it's going to go out with a bang and shit star ratings. But, it's going to be the story I wanted to tell.

Such is life.

 

[Bamagan]

So as many of you already know, I primarily write very unrealistic hetro NC/R, (mostly resistance, I suppose) and I write both dominant females and males.

I have come to the conclusion that perhaps my maledom followers have been dissatisfied with my femdom stories, and vice versa. I think perhaps the two camps are low-scoring the other's stories, to encourage me to write their instead.

Does anyone else write to two (or more) commonly differing groups, and suspect that your overall scores probably suffer done as your followers downvote what they dislike and up vote only what they like...?

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For the record, I love both, and will continue to write both because I consider it enjoyable. Scores matter to me, but so does having fun.

I suspect what you describe here is happening, but it seems like exactly the kind of thing you'd expect to happen for the category at large. I mean, presumably those two groups of f-dom and m-dom partisans are voting at least more or less consistently on all stories they read when it comes to their preferred content, so why wouldn't they give a lower score to a story that contains the opposite of what they want? Brand/author loyalty can only carry one so far.
Even if you had no followers, wouldn't you expect the same general process to occur as the two conflicting readerships discover the works, albeit somewhat more slowly, since they'd otherwise have to find them 'organically' without the benefit of knowing they're yours? That's kind of the underlying idea behind the voting, it seems, at least for a wide swath of readers: rank it high if you want more of the same, rank it lower if it's not satisfying one's itch.

 

[lovecraft68]

Alts get a bad rep but, employed non-nefariously, they have positives, especially for fetish-y yet simultaneously pearl clutching readerships.

Despite assumptions, it's not always about keeping scores up/the red H trains running on time.

Sometimes it's about skipping any drama. This place has been a perpetual motion machine of drama.

Alts and alternate pen names are different and seen differently.
Having more than one name to post different material is not seen as a bad thing in any way.

The derogatory version of "Alt" is a forum member who creates multiple names to troll the forum and attack people while protecting their main name.
Also when someone who is male wants to catfish dumb men and create a female persona here.

 

[SimonDoom]

There's nothing wrong with writing stories that appeal to different and sometimes conflicting reader groups. I do that, and I get very different results.

I've thought about adopting different alt names, but I've decided not to, because if I were to choose a new persona then the stories I published under that name would get nowhere near the same exposure as the ones published under my current name. I'm willing to put up with some grumbling and 1-bombing if I know that this is the way to maximize my audience.

 

[Djmac1031]

I've thought about adopting different alt names, but I've decided not to, because if I were to choose a new persona then the stories I published under that name would get nowhere near the same exposure as the ones published under my current name. I'm willing to put up with some grumbling and 1-bombing if I know that this is the way to maximize my audience.

I've been back and forth about creating an Alt account to post a few stories under the pen name I created for a character in my story Pornville.

"Todd Everman" is an amateur porn writer who wakes up one morning trapped in the world of his own stories.

I've considered the idea of creating an account under his name and actually writing "his" stories, especially the ones only briefly touched on in Pornville.

Those stories would be different from the ones I generally write; less plot oriented, less grounded. More over the top sex romps.

Then there's the question of whether I'd out myself publicly (although I guess I already am lol) or just post them under the new name and see what happens.

My biggest drawback to it is maintaining a second account. Not that I'd post here under it, no need for that.

There's enough paranoia and baseless accusations about alt accounts here as it is.

 

[Djmac1031]

So as many of you already know, I primarily write very unrealistic hetro NC/R, (mostly resistance, I suppose) and I write both dominant females and males.

I have come to the conclusion that perhaps my maledom followers have been dissatisfied with my femdom stories, and vice versa. I think perhaps the two camps are low-scoring the other's stories, to encourage me to write their instead.

Does anyone else write to two (or more) commonly differing groups, and suspect that your overall scores probably suffer done as your followers downvote what they dislike and up vote only what they like...?

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For the record, I love both, and will continue to write both because I consider it enjoyable. Scores matter to me, but so does having fun.

Interesting conundrum . One I'm afraid I don’t have much advice on as my stories generally don't generate that kind of conflict among my readers.

My only real suggestion is to simply do your best to tag the stories appropriately and keep on doing what you do.

 

[MediocreAuthor]

If the title and tagline make it clear which category the story falls into, then they have no one to blame but themselves.

Do you have comments that support your hypothesis about the two camps? I find that vote counts are frequently inscrutable but comments are usually easier to interpret.

No matter what the votes and comments say, though, I think you have the right idea by writing what you enjoy.

Not on my stories, but I have seen comments on other stories which leads me to believe that.

 

[gunhilltrain]

So as many of you already know, I primarily write very unrealistic hetro NC/R, (mostly resistance, I suppose) and I write both dominant females and males.

I have come to the conclusion that perhaps my maledom followers have been dissatisfied with my femdom stories, and vice versa. I think perhaps the two camps are low-scoring the other's stories, to encourage me to write their instead.

Does anyone else write to two (or more) commonly differing groups, and suspect that your overall scores probably suffer done as your followers downvote what they dislike and up vote only what they like...?

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For the record, I love both, and will continue to write both because I consider it enjoyable. Scores matter to me, but so does having fun.

Probably your first two sentences make sense, but you seem to be overthinking this a bit. In my experience, only a tiny number of "followers" bother to vote or comment - like five out of 158. Actually, I'm not sure who is consistently reading and voting on my stories. Are you sure that you truly have two camps of followers? Or maybe it's mostly just random people who are voting? I'm just guessing, because maybe your experience is different.

At face value, there would seem to be different fans for maledom versus femdom. If most of your stories fall into those two genres, then maybe you do have the same groups of people voting each time. How many followers do you have?

 

[MediocreAuthor]

Probably your first two sentences make sense, but you seem to be overthinking this a bit. In my experience, only a tiny number of "followers" bother to vote or comment - like five out of 158. Actually, I'm not sure who is consistently reading and voting on my stories. Are you sure that you truly have two camps of followers? Or maybe it's mostly just random people who are voting? I'm just guessing, because maybe your experience is different.

At face value, there would seem to be different fans for maledom versus femdom. If most of your stories fall into those two genres, then maybe you do have the same groups of people voting each time. How many followers do you have?

276 followers at the moment.

I occasionally look at my follower's profiles, and some say they prefer femdom, while others say maledom.

I like both, so I write both.

 

[Darkniciad]

I don't even regularly post under my main name much nowadays. Some years ago, the browser I use to log in here as Dark reached a point where it was becoming generally frustrating for day to day browsing. The browser RR is logged in with became my preferred browser, and thus RR took over babbling on the forum. I keep them all logged in under different browsers so I don't have to log in and log out to check stats. RR also releases stories more often ( because they're in general a lot shorter than Les or Dark stories ) which contributed to the shift.

If Firefox took over as my primary browser, it's entirely possible that Les could become my primary forum account. That's the only browser that works properly on one site where I post right now. That site hasn't hit a high enough priority in my day-to-day browsing to force a shift yet, but it could always happen.

My compartmentalization has less to do with kink and more to do with connected stories. Dark and Les both have a lot of connected stories that people want more of, and they move forward slowly. If I was under one pen name, every RR story I post would have a half dozen comments asking when I'm getting back to this or that.

 

[gunhilltrain]

I've been back and forth about creating an Alt account to post a few stories under the pen name I created for a character in my story Pornville.

"Todd Everman" is an amateur porn writer who wakes up one morning trapped in the world of his own stories.

I've considered the idea of creating an account under his name and actually writing "his" stories, especially the ones only briefly touched on in Pornville.

Those stories would be different from the ones I generally write; less plot oriented, less grounded. More over the top sex romps.

Then there's the question of whether I'd out myself publicly (although I guess I already am lol) or just post them under the new name and see what happens.

My biggest drawback to it is maintaining a second account. Not that I'd post here under it, no need for that.

There's enough paranoia and baseless accusations about alt accounts here as it is.

Now that I think about it, I do have "alt accounts" on other sites, with different user names. There is one site where I may put more "hard-core" or maybe experimental material. Yes, it has some advantages although it can get a bit confusing at times. Even though I consider Lit to be my "primary" outlet (I've been here the longest), I still like to maintain other options.

 

[gunhilltrain]

276 followers at the moment.

I occasionally look at my follower's profiles, and some say they prefer femdom, while others say maledom.

I like both, so I write both.

That's a substantial number after a little less than a year. I admit, I look at a new follower's profile once and then I rarely do it again. Thus I haven't noticed any patterns yet. But I don't think I have a "concentrated" theme for most stories and you do, it seems.

 

[RejectReality]

Lit is sort of middle of the road for allowing other pen names. I have a site that only allows one, so there, my stuff is all mixed together. Here, I compartmentalize via different browsers. A third site actually caters to multiple pen names, and provides an interface that lets you interact with all of them via a single login.

Having only one name will always be better for generating readership. The primary driver of that is getting new work out there. When everything is coming from one name, that builds more quickly. Having multiple names is a very personal decision that needs to be weighed carefully against that prominent fact. I've got 4105 followers as RR, 1228 as Dark, and 1267 as Les. The one time ( years ago, shortly after the feature was introduced ) I checked, there was very little crossover between the three lists. If even a quarter of the unique followers from Dark and Les were added to RR, that's a big jump on the popular authors' list.

 

[yowser]

To me it seems to depend on your goals and what you want out of putting your stories here. I likely suffer in the scoring/readership realm by writing a wide range of tales, and the readership here does indeed show evidence of strong preferences as well as dislikes (I wouldn't go so far as to say 'entitled' although that thought has crossed my mind.) At the end of the day, I don't want to get too wrapped up in trying to please everyone.

I'd rather just keep it all simple and unitary, and perhaps be thought of as a 'wide spectrum' writer.

 

[gunhilltrain]

I was inspired to final look at my newest follower's profile (from August) who did find one of my stories first. And, yes, he was quite detailed about his interests. Am I allowed to quote from profiles? Well, let's just say that he likes: mom-son, femdom, degradation, humiliation, cuckold, cuckquean, dirty talk, hairy armpits/pussy/asshole, body odour, scat, piss, vomit, foot fetish and many others.

Oh man, except for some femdom, which was in the story he found, I have little to offer him. Body odor? Vomit? Well, he's following at least 150 authors (I couldn't count them all), so he's got plenty of choices to look at.

 

[darkride]

I absolutely hate when someone makes a comment like - Well it was good til the 2 guys started touching each other - and yet the tags show it has gay content.

Sheesh reader - if you're homophobic, don't read stories that are tagged as having that content, and if you do, certainly don't downvote because of it!

 

[gunhilltrain]

I absolutely hate when someone makes a comment like - Well it was good til the 2 guys started touching each other - and yet the tags show it has gay content.

Sheesh reader - if you're homophobic, don't read stories that are tagged as having that content, and if you do, certainly don't downvote because of it!

I think we've long ago established that with mass readership comes mass dysfunctional thinking. You're finding out the truth of that first-hand now. But, it is balanced somewhat by the appreciative comments. I wish there were more of them, but we'll take what we can get.

 

[gunhilltrain]

I absolutely hate when someone makes a comment like - Well it was good til the 2 guys started touching each other - and yet the tags show it has gay content.

Sheesh reader - if you're homophobic, don't read stories that are tagged as having that content, and if you do, certainly don't downvote because of it!

I did take a look at your submissions list, and you've got some favorable comments mixed in with the complaints. At least you're not being ignored (no comments), which is painful in its own way. And the scores are almost all quite good. (I define above a 4.00 as good.) So I'd say you're doing well for your first two months

 

[Paul_Chance]

I've been back and forth about creating an Alt account to post a few stories under the pen name I created for a character in my story Pornville.

"Todd Everman" is an amateur porn writer who wakes up one morning trapped in the world of his own stories.

I've considered the idea of creating an account under his name and actually writing "his" stories, especially the ones only briefly touched on in Pornville.

Those stories would be different from the ones I generally write; less plot oriented, less grounded. More over the top sex romps.

Then there's the question of whether I'd out myself publicly (although I guess I already am lol) or just post them under the new name and see what happens.

My biggest drawback to it is maintaining a second account. Not that I'd post here under it, no need for that.

There's enough paranoia and baseless accusations about alt accounts here as it is.

I like that idea. That would be a good easter-egg for your fans to find and give support to your wider fictional universe.

 

[Lovecraft_Lore]

So as many of you already know, I primarily write very unrealistic hetro NC/R, (mostly resistance, I suppose) and I write both dominant females and males.

I have come to the conclusion that perhaps my maledom followers have been dissatisfied with my femdom stories, and vice versa. I think perhaps the two camps are low-scoring the other's stories, to encourage me to write their instead.

Does anyone else write to two (or more) commonly differing groups, and suspect that your overall scores probably suffer done as your followers downvote what they dislike and up vote only what they like...?

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For the record, I love both, and will continue to write both because I consider it enjoyable. Scores matter to me, but so does having fun.

Yes, if you have two differing story types then you will get down votes. If there are strong females in one set of stories and another set of stories with women just there to be used for sex then you will get people not happy with whatever. Does not matter how it is tagged.