Sobering thoughts from someone who should know

[icanhelp1]

You’re no doubt referring to the investigation into Russian influence on the election culminating in the mueller report.

But let’s not forget Barr’s efforts
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...-bill-bar-attorney-general-justice-department

I’m also referring to Jeff Session bailing out on him.

 

[HisArpy]

The repubican't consensus here is that trump has done nothing wrong and "THEY" are just out to get him. On the other hand Biden should be impeached for nepotism and his sons drug use. All of the past Presidents sins put together do not add up to the insanity of trump.

^ this is why I say you're dishonest. You spin facts while omitting truth to arrive at a false conclusion you promote as real even though you are aware that what you say is a lie.

 

[Rotadom]

You spin facts while omitting truth

you are aware that what you say is a lie.

Those are different things, genius.

 

[jomar]

I’m also referring to Jeff Session bailing out on him.

You mean Sessions recusing himself from any investigation into the 2016 campaign after talking to Russians during the campaign, being a central figure during the campaign, being a subject and witness in the investigation, and after a republican chorus called for his recusal?

 

[HisArpy]

Hitler had a solid base of disaffected former soldiers to draw on in his rise to power. They were young and trained on the battlefields of WWI.

Trump’s followers own a lot of guns but they’re older and mostly lack military experience. If they try to seize power by force they will be put down.

What is it with the left promising to use force against their own neighbors? What is it with the Left who continually cry "oppression" while they and the government work to censor TRUTH because it's inconvenient to the political narrative? What is it with the Left when they actively work to destroy acknowledged Constitutional rights while claiming that it's conservatives who are Nazi's and tyrants?

It's like you're blind to the words you use and the harms you cause with them.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

What is it with the left promising to use force against their own neighbors? What is it with the Left who continually cry "oppression" while they and the government work to censor TRUTH because it's inconvenient to the political narrative? What is it with the Left when they actively work to destroy acknowledged Constitutional rights while claiming that it's conservatives who are Nazi's and tyrants?

It's like you're blind to the words you use and the harms you cause with them.

The U.S. government should use force to stop violent insurgents. I’m surprised you find this controversial.

 

[StepMomSteph]

What is it with the left promising to use force against their own neighbors? What is it with the Left who continually cry "oppression" while they and the government work to censor TRUTH because it's inconvenient to the political narrative? What is it with the Left when they actively work to destroy acknowledged Constitutional rights while claiming that it's conservatives who are Nazi's and tyrants?

It's like you're blind to the words you use and the harms you cause with them.

Sounds like you are doing the crying.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/04/jobs-report-july-2023-187000-jobs-in-july.html

 

[LLCox]

^ this is why I say you're dishonest. You spin facts while omitting truth to arrive at a false conclusion you promote as real even though you are aware that what you say is a lie.

Well you are a repubican't so "truth' is whatever works for you. My conclusion is spot on and I can not be dishonest because I believe what I say.

 

[PaxNurgle]

There need to be both legal and career consequences for those government employees who are actively working to subvert the Constitution and the will of the American people. We cannot allow permanent government employees to become politically motivated against the policies of their elected leaders. their job is to carry out those policies within the limits of the law.

For once I agree with you.

Which is why, I am sure, you are supporting the indictment of, and the legal consequences facing, the biggest subverter of the Constitution, and the will of the American People, since the Civil War. Much like any decent American who loves the Constitution.

That being the disgraced former president. If you truly believe what you just said above, you should be cheering for the indictments of former President Trump, and hoping the consequences he will face will be severe.

 

[HisArpy]

Well you are a repubican't so "truth' is whatever works for you. My conclusion is spot on and I can not be dishonest because I believe what I say.

Your opinion is based on lies. Outright lies and omissions. When you believe lies and repeat them, then you're a liar too. When you deny being a liar despite all the evidence to the contrary, there is no "truth" to support you or anything you say no matter what you try and call it - conclusion or opinion.

Attempts to demean others for your lies doesn't change that one whit.

 

[HisArpy]

Sounds like you are doing the crying.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/04/jobs-report-july-2023-187000-jobs-in-july.html

You do know that 180,000 jobs is barely matching the number of people entering the workforce for the first time, yes?

 

[LLCox]

Your opinion is based on lies. Outright lies and omissions. When you believe lies and repeat them, then you're a liar too. When you deny being a liar despite all the evidence to the contrary, there is no "truth" to support you or anything you say no matter what you try and call it - conclusion or opinion.

Attempts to demean others for your lies doesn't change that one whit.

I liked it better when I was, "spinning facts".

 

[HisArpy]

The U.S. government should use force to stop violent insurgents. I’m surprised you find this controversial.

Where were you and your force against insurgents idealism during the summer of 2020 when the Left was decrying Trump using force against violent protestors by pushing them back so he could walk from the WH to the church across the street? Or when the States declined his offer of National Guard troops to help quell the violence that was burning down State and Federal courthouses and buildings?

Or are you saying that burning down a Federal courthouse isn't in the same category of insurgency as listening to a speech and then going to protest on capitol hill? That all the looting and arson amounting to BILLIONS of dollars in losses is equal to someone stealing Pelosi's laptop and gavel? That multiple MURDERS are ok when compared to a shaman wearing horns on his head walking around inside the capitol while being escorted by security? Or that the death of Michael Brown by police isn't equal to the death of Ashli Babbitt by a police officer? Are you saying that all of those people who did those things should just go on about their lives while Trump, who did NONE of that, should get the death penalty and his supporters should have FORCE used against them?

Don't be fucking absurd and try to tell us that those things are different. What you're really saying is that you only want to use force against conservatives and Republicans and anyone else who doesn't agree with you. This no longer is about right or wrong, it's about you using force to shut up those you don't like based on ideology.

What you don't understand, or maybe you do because you WANT another civil war, is that this will only lead to more hate and division and eventually the people will have had enough. Already there is soft talk about no longer complying. About how we, as Americans, have a duty to throw off the yoke of oppressive tyranny and reestablish a representative government which will obey the limits of its creation and which will safeguard the liberties of the people.

What you hear by that sort of talk is the sound of the drums of war in the distance. And here you are talking about how the GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE USING FORCE to oppress the dissenters even more.

You, and everyone else who thinks/acts/talks like you do, is an idiot. War isn't pretty and no one comes out on top. Ask the people of Ukraine if you don't believe me. Millions will die if your dreams come true. Life and the planet will be forever changed, and the changes may not be what you, or I, want.

And here you are, cheering that on.

I'll say it again, you, and everyone who thinks/acts/talks like you do, is an idiot.

 

[HisArpy]

I liked it better when I was, "spinning facts".

Not my fault that you're stupid.

 

[LLCox]

Not my fault that you're stupid.

I thought I was at one time but then I saw what was going for "smart" on the internet.

 

[HisArpy]

I thought I was at one time but then I saw what was going for "smart" on the internet.

There's your problem, you think the internet is "real."

I'm not sure if that helps you or saves you because insanity is a valid defense in most jurisdictions.

 

[LLCox]

There's your problem, you think the internet is "real."

I'm not sure if that helps you or saves you because insanity is a valid defense in most jurisdictions.

So what do you think the internet is, all bots.

 

[HisArpy]

So what do you think the internet is, all bots.

I think it's the internet. The one place where nothing should be taken at face value.

Meanwhile you were saying something about how you saw "smart" was defined on the internet, and somehow believed it was real. Apparently that means you're not into cross checking and verifying the information you get on the WWW.

Not that that's surprising to those of us who read your drivel.

 

[LLCox]

I think it's the internet. The one place where nothing should be taken at face value.

Meanwhile you were saying something about how you saw "smart" was defined on the internet, and somehow believed it was real. Apparently that means you're not into cross checking and verifying the information you get on the WWW.

Not that that's surprising to those of us who read your drivel.

Sounds like you need to put me on iggy so you can have a better experience.

 

[Bray123]

Where were you and your force against insurgents idealism during the summer of 2020 when the Left was decrying Trump using force against violent protestors by pushing them back so he could walk from the WH to the church across the street? Or when the States declined his offer of National Guard troops to help quell the violence that was burning down State and Federal courthouses and buildings?

Or are you saying that burning down a Federal courthouse isn't in the same category of insurgency as listening to a speech and then going to protest on capitol hill? That all the looting and arson amounting to BILLIONS of dollars in losses is equal to someone stealing Pelosi's laptop and gavel? That multiple MURDERS are ok when compared to a shaman wearing horns on his head walking around inside the capitol while being escorted by security? Or that the death of Michael Brown by police isn't equal to the death of Ashli Babbitt by a police officer? Are you saying that all of those people who did those things should just go on about their lives while Trump, who did NONE of that, should get the death penalty and his supporters should have FORCE used against them?

Don't be fucking absurd and try to tell us that those things are different. What you're really saying is that you only want to use force against conservatives and Republicans and anyone else who doesn't agree with you. This no longer is about right or wrong, it's about you using force to shut up those you don't like based on ideology.

What you don't understand, or maybe you do because you WANT another civil war, is that this will only lead to more hate and division and eventually the people will have had enough. Already there is soft talk about no longer complying. About how we, as Americans, have a duty to throw off the yoke of oppressive tyranny and reestablish a representative government which will obey the limits of its creation and which will safeguard the liberties of the people.

What you hear by that sort of talk is the sound of the drums of war in the distance. And here you are talking about how the GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE USING FORCE to oppress the dissenters even more.

You, and everyone else who thinks/acts/talks like you do, is an idiot. War isn't pretty and no one comes out on top. Ask the people of Ukraine if you don't believe me. Millions will die if your dreams come true. Life and the planet will be forever changed, and the changes may not be what you, or I, want.

And here you are, cheering that on.

I'll say it again, you, and everyone who thinks/acts/talks like you do, is an idiot.

Are you making out that the people who were forced out of the way at gunpoint so that Trump could hold a photo-op were trying to overthrow the government?

The person who stole Pelosi's laptop is a Nick Fuentes follower who bragged online that she “gave the electronic devices, or attempted to give them, to unspecified Russian individuals”, according to prosecutors. “To date, neither the laptop nor the gavel has been recovered,” they said in a June 2022 court filing.

And you offer this as an example of de minimis. Shame on you.

 

[HisArpy]

Sounds like you need to put me on iggy so you can have a better experience.

See, there it is again, you thinking someone else needs to be doing all the work while you do nothing but bitch and complain from the sidelines. Worse, you'll do more of it because people won't be able to defend themselves from your cowardly behaviors of talking smack behind their back.

Newsflash for you sweety; with just a couple of mouse clicks on your part you won't have to suffer reading my analysis of your saga of continuing ineptitude.

The bonus in that is that I don't have to draft, proofread, and post replies to your failed attempts at being "smart" on the internet. And I promise that, unless you start acting like the little phuckwad, I won't even bother replying since you won't be quoting me or trying to talk to me.

See how that works? A little effort on your particular part gets peaceful bliss for all involved. Me doing the work gets almost none of that.

Of course you'd have to be "smart" to figure it out and do it and I don't hold out much hope for you doing anything since you've not shown any talent or motivation in that regard yet.

 

[HisArpy]

Are you making out that the people who were forced out of the way at gunpoint so that Trump could hold a photo-op were trying to overthrow the government?

The person who stole Pelosi's laptop is a Nick Fuentes follower who bragged online that she “gave the electronic devices, or attempted to give them, to unspecified Russian individuals”, according to prosecutors. “To date, neither the laptop nor the gavel has been recovered,” they said in a June 2022 court filing.

And you offer this as an example of de minimis. Shame on you.

Dam, you really went full shithead on this one.

Those "peaceful" protestors were throwing rocks and frozen water bottles and setting off firecrackers only minutes earlier while protesting against the President of the United States.

Which sounds a LOT more violent that the videos we have of people being quietly escorted by security around inside the capitol building and taking pictures.

And oh my fucking gawd, someone is a "Nick Fuentes follower." Damn that deserves the death penalty all on it's ownsomes. And then you add in the fact that she stole a laptop instead of burning down a police station, tossing molotov cocktails into a police car, or beating someone on the head so badly they went to the hospital and were in ICU as a result.

But it's those selfie takers who should be shot on sight. Fox news watchers who need to be imprisoned in work camps for the rest of their lives. Republicans who need to be given a fair trial right before they're sent to the gas chamber. And most of all, those white people who have the audacity to say that they're not racists should be stripped of their citizenship and sent to South Africa on the same boat Elon Musk is on.

And you think I'm not making a valid comparison? You're right, I'm pulling my punches. I didn't include Kyle Rittenhouse at all. Or the mob that tried to murder him on camera. Or the DA who charged him with murder in what was a CLEAR case of self defense. Or many of the other situations where "force" was used by YOUR SIDE of the political and social divide FIRST!

Oh I'm sure you can come up with a few examples of where criminals with criminal pasts have suffered under police brutality, but those aren't events where one side of the divide has cheered on the use of force. No matter how you spin it, NEITHER SIDE advocates the use of excessive force by the police.

And yet here you are supporting the use of force against regular Joe citizen for the "crime" of thinking differently than you do.

What a fucking IDIOT you are.

 

[Bray123]

Dam, you really went full shithead on this one.

Those "peaceful" protestors were throwing rocks and frozen water bottles and setting off firecrackers only minutes earlier while protesting against the President of the United States.

Which sounds a LOT more violent that the videos we have of people being quietly escorted by security around inside the capitol building and taking pictures.

And oh my fucking gawd, someone is a "Nick Fuentes follower." Damn that deserves the death penalty all on it's ownsomes. And then you add in the fact that she stole a laptop instead of burning down a police station, tossing molotov cocktails into a police car, or beating someone on the head so badly they went to the hospital and were in ICU as a result.

But it's those selfie takers who should be shot on sight. Fox news watchers who need to be imprisoned in work camps for the rest of their lives. Republicans who need to be given a fair trial right before they're sent to the gas chamber. And most of all, those white people who have the audacity to say that they're not racists should be stripped of their citizenship and sent to South Africa on the same boat Elon Musk is on.

And you think I'm not making a valid comparison? You're right, I'm pulling my punches. I didn't include Kyle Rittenhouse at all. Or the mob that tried to murder him on camera. Or the DA who charged him with murder in what was a CLEAR case of self defense. Or many of the other situations where "force" was used by YOUR SIDE of the political and social divide FIRST!

Oh I'm sure you can come up with a few examples of where criminals with criminal pasts have suffered under police brutality, but those aren't events where one side of the divide has cheered on the use of force. No matter how you spin it, NEITHER SIDE advocates the use of excessive force by the police.

And yet here you are supporting the use of force against regular Joe citizen for the "crime" of thinking differently than you do.

What a fucking IDIOT you are.

Nick Fuentes is a Nazi.
The follower of a Nazi is called 'a Nazi'.
It was you who quoted Riley June Williams as a fine upstanding member of society for giving the Speaker's laptop to Russia, not me.
The officers who had their riot shields, tasers and pepper spray stolen and used against them were not quietly escorting anybody.

Rittenhouse shot people who glared at him whilst holding skateboards and that's OK.

You're a disgrace to the legal profession.

 

[LLCox]

See, there it is again, you thinking someone else needs to be doing all the work while you do nothing but bitch and complain from the sidelines.

Yes, I am at exactly that point in my life, good catch. Thank you for entertaining me, at least your flames are better than most.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Where were you and your force against insurgents idealism during the summer of 2020 when the Left was decrying Trump using force against violent protestors by pushing them back so he could walk from the WH to the church across the street? Or when the States declined his offer of National Guard troops to help quell the violence that was burning down State and Federal courthouses and buildings?

Or are you saying that burning down a Federal courthouse isn't in the same category of insurgency as listening to a speech and then going to protest on capitol hill? That all the looting and arson amounting to BILLIONS of dollars in losses is equal to someone stealing Pelosi's laptop and gavel? That multiple MURDERS are ok when compared to a shaman wearing horns on his head walking around inside the capitol while being escorted by security? Or that the death of Michael Brown by police isn't equal to the death of Ashli Babbitt by a police officer? Are you saying that all of those people who did those things should just go on about their lives while Trump, who did NONE of that, should get the death penalty and his supporters should have FORCE used against them?

Don't be fucking absurd and try to tell us that those things are different. What you're really saying is that you only want to use force against conservatives and Republicans and anyone else who doesn't agree with you. This no longer is about right or wrong, it's about you using force to shut up those you don't like based on ideology.

What you don't understand, or maybe you do because you WANT another civil war, is that this will only lead to more hate and division and eventually the people will have had enough. Already there is soft talk about no longer complying. About how we, as Americans, have a duty to throw off the yoke of oppressive tyranny and reestablish a representative government which will obey the limits of its creation and which will safeguard the liberties of the people.

What you hear by that sort of talk is the sound of the drums of war in the distance. And here you are talking about how the GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE USING FORCE to oppress the dissenters even more.

You, and everyone else who thinks/acts/talks like you do, is an idiot. War isn't pretty and no one comes out on top. Ask the people of Ukraine if you don't believe me. Millions will die if your dreams come true. Life and the planet will be forever changed, and the changes may not be what you, or I, want.

And here you are, cheering that on.

I'll say it again, you, and everyone who thinks/acts/talks like you do, is an idiot.

If people take up arms against the United States, our government is justified in using violence to put down the rebellion. That's been true for the entire history of the republic, as was amply demonstrated by the Civil War.