Did Biden take documents when he was a Senator?

[IrezumiKiss]

No, he isn’t.

• 31 counts of retaining and failing to deliver national defense documents under the Espionage Act.
• 5 counts relating to conspiracy to obstruct justice and withholding documents and records
• 1 count of making false statements.

Matlock seems to be hard at work doing his part-time lawyering job, so I'll fill in for him:

GEAUX PHOOK YERSHELF

 

[Rightguide]

Investigations so far have not determined any crime. Same for Pence. Classified documents found in his possession also, but returned upon discovery and no crime found.

The fact that Joe Biden had classified material in his possession at home dating from his time in the senate is a felony under federal law.

 

[Bray123]

And yet Trump is being tried for the same thing.


Do you not see the hypocrisy? Or do you just not care that our entire society and laws are being subverted by this crap?

We can go around and around about what is and what isn't "different" between Trump's case and Biden/Pence/et al but THE POINT is that those others are all getting a pass and Trump isn't.

It's not the facts or the situation, it's that it's about getting Trump.

So again, do you not see the hypocrisy? Or do you just not care?

So Trump returned all the files that he'd mistakenly retained.

When did that happen?

 

[HisArpy]

Somebody wanna tell the Birdbrain that Donny didn't return anything voluntarily, or at least not all of what was discovered to be missing. In fact, he made concerted efforts to hide or move documents, or directed others to do so. All the while arguing, insisting he had the right to hold whatever he wanted no matter what laws may have been violated and ignoring formal requests to return them and lying to the court and federal investigators, to the point of court issuing a search warrant. And then during that search, he still had people moving boxes to avoid discovery.

But of course the Birdbrain already knows all of this since it's all in official court documents which even a birdbrain of a claimed to be lawyer would have read before making empty nest noises.

^ this is a bald faced lie.

Trump held meetings with NARA representatives who were given documents to take back to the archives. Those representatives were told that they were welcome to return anytime they wanted or needed anything else. NARA requested that Trump move the documents he had into the storage room and lock them inside. A request which Trump complied with.

These are facts, not conjecture or opinion. Which means that you lied in your zeal to convict Trump of something you're giving a pass to Biden for while ignoring the very real FACT that Biden had classified docs from his time as a Senator and had ZERO legal grounds to possess outside a SCIF.

This is per se evidence that Biden committed a very serious crime. And you're ok with that because he's a Democrat. You're not ok with Trump having any documents, classified or not, because of your blatant and rampant TDS.

Or have I got that wrong?

 

[HisArpy]

The fact that Joe Biden had classified material in his possession at home dating from his time in the senate is a felony under federal law.

For which there is no defense because mere possession of those documents outside of a secure area is enough for a conviction.

 

[HisArpy]

No, he isn’t.

• 31 counts of retaining and failing to deliver national defense documents under the Espionage Act.
• 5 counts relating to conspiracy to obstruct justice and withholding documents and records
• 1 count of making false statements.

GO FUCK YOURSELF

 

[Rightguide]

Somebody wanna tell the Birdbrain that Donny didn't return anything voluntarily, or at least not all of what was discovered to be missing. In fact, he made concerted efforts to hide or move documents, or directed others to do so. All the while arguing, insisting he had the right to hold whatever he wanted no matter what laws may have been violated and ignoring formal requests to return them and lying to the court and federal investigators, to the point of court issuing a search warrant. And then during that search, he still had people moving boxes to avoid discovery.

But of course the Birdbrain already knows all of this since it's all in official court documents which even a birdbrain of a claimed to be lawyer would have read before making empty nest noises.

These are not the facts of the matter. These are what is alleged in the indictment and trumpeted by his enemies in the media and elsewhere, which haven't yet been testified to or proven in court.

 

[Sean Renaud]

The fact that Joe Biden had classified material in his possession at home dating from his time in the senate is a felony under federal law.

You're not wrong but the real reason nobody is pushing on him is the stuff he had probably isn't important at all and if they did most the Senate would be prison.

 

[HisArpy]

So Trump returned all the files that he'd mistakenly retained.

When did that happen?

When he gave NARA access and let them have whatever documents they wanted and told them they could come back at any time for anything else.

You probably believe that the FBI took every document Biden has when they retrieved the classified ones. Because to you the fact that someone had to go to the multiple and various unsecured locations where he'd stashed them, after never telling anyone he had classified materials he NEVER should have possessed, means that he "voluntarily returned the docs."

 

[HisArpy]

You're not wrong but the real reason nobody is pushing on him is the stuff he had probably isn't important at all and if they did most the Senate would be prison.

And yet you can't see the hypocrisy of them prosecuting an ex President for this.

 

[jaF0]

Anybody keeping track of the last time the Birdbrain was correct?



On anything?

 

[HisArpy]

Anybody keeping track of the last time the Birdbrain was correct?



On anything?

I don't care what kind of Ad Hom you spew, you're a liar and you know you're a liar.

And now that you've shown your true colors yet again, everyone else knows it too.

 

[GuitarGawd41]

You're not wrong but the real reason nobody is pushing on him is the stuff he had probably isn't important at all and if they did most the Senate would be prison.

You clearly don't know the process for Senators to read these classified docs. To see them at all, they have to go into a secure room with no Camara, phone, or any such device, can read and (I think... not clear on this part) take written notes. They then leave the room the document is never supposed to be in their possession. So for Biden to have these docs as a Senator, he had to steal them. Like physically wrongfully take them with him out of a place they were not supposed to leave. Most of the Senate decidedly does not do that, and that is not something you risk for a list of the presidential pet supplies.

 

[Sean Renaud]

And yet you can't see the hypocrisy of them prosecuting an ex President for this.

As far as we can tell at this point what he did, and what the others did are completely difffernt however.

 

[Rightguide]

You're not wrong but the real reason nobody is pushing on him is the stuff he had probably isn't important at all and if they did most the Senate would be prison.

That has no bearing on the fact that he was and is in violation of federal law. The truth is he's being protected by the opther tier of federal justice reserved for Democrats.

 

[Sean Renaud]

You clearly don't know the process for Senators to read these classified docs. To see them at all, they have to go into a secure room with no Camara, phone, or any such device, can read and (I think... not clear on this part) take written notes. They then leave the room the document is never supposed to be in their possession. So for Biden to have these docs as a Senator, he had to steal them. Like physically wrongfully take them with him out of a place they were not supposed to leave. Most of the Senate decidedly does not do that, and that is not something you risk for a list of the presidential pet supplies.

Bruh I was an E2 in the Marines the first time I held a classified doc. A lot of classified stuff is classified for no, or little reason.

 

[Sean Renaud]

That has no bearing on the fact that he was and is in violation of federal law. The truth is he's being protected by the opther tier of federal justice reserved for Democrats.

I didn't say he didn't. There is no upper tier reserved for Democrats. what there is the recognition that not all things are equal.

 

[Rightguide]

I didn't say he didn't. There is no upper tier reserved for Democrats. what there is the recognition that not all things are equal.

The legal tenet that America was founded on is all are equal before the law.

 

[GuitarGawd41]

Bruh I was an E2 in the Marines the first time I held a classified doc. A lot of classified stuff is classified for no, or little reason.

I get it. I was signal in the Army. But this is not the kind of classified stuff Senators are handling. They are civilians given access and clearance for reasons of governance. As military we had to have access to the bs classified stuff. As a Senator, there is only one way to have any classified docs in private possession... That is a serious felony.

 

[HisArpy]

As far as we can tell at this point what he did, and what the others did are completely difffernt however.

Biden had no authority to possess the documents he had. None. It was a crime for him to have them and mere possession is guilt per se. There is NO DEFENSE for doing this and no one else gets a pass except Joe.

Meanwhile, Trump's people packed his office when he left the WH, just as every President before him has had done. Documents get stuffed into boxes and those boxes are transported to where they're supposed to go. This is reality. This is what EVERY other President has done.

Yet Trump, and ONLY Trump, gets indicted and charged for it while the criminal with no viable defense walks around smirking because he once again fucked you and me and everyone else. And you're good with that because... why?

 

[GuitarGawd41]

The legal tenet that America was founded on is all are equal before the law.

That is very well stated

 

[Lazaran]

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The RWCJ “members” arr hard at it today with the “RAM” (Rationalize, Apologize, Minimize) defense of the rapey, corrupt orange traitor.

JFC

SAD!!!

RWCJ ”members”

 

[GuitarGawd41]

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The RWCJ “members” arr hard at it today with the “RAM” (Rationalize, Apologize, Minimize) defense of the rapey, corrupt orange traitor.

JFC

SAD!!!

RWCJ ”members”

Rapey, corrupt traitor? Creepy Joe, is that you? I know it's hard to keep track of things through that fog of lies, corruption, sexual assault, racism, and general dementia, but it's best not to accuse others of things you have actually done. Now go off to your room and talk to your invisible friend CornPop. Here's your ice cream, and we even left a wig for you to sniff.

 

[Lazaran]

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Too easy.

 

[GuitarGawd41]

Yeah, I did kinda take the low hanging fruit there, but it does make a point about the left. Politically driven accusations against Trump come up, conveniently suddenly when he's a political candidate (an old tactic by the left alá Clarence Thomas, Herman Cain, Brett Kavanaugh, and several others, ignoring in the process, of course, your own list of clearly guilty rapist and assaulter celeb Democrats). You ride those with all your Me Too fervour, insisting on guilt until proven innocent.
But Biden actually assaults a staffer, actually in fact grabs her by the pussy, along with various other parts, and she is told to shut up about it because Biden is too important to sully. She goes to the leftist media, and no one will touch it. The one reporter who initially tried to break the story is destroyed by the powers that be. Then, when Biden is running for president and the story finally surfaces, it gets minimal coverage and brushed away, and then when it gets brought up, the response from the leftist press is, Come on, that's already been talked about. Move on already.
Meanwhile Biden's victim has to suffer through not only what he did to her, but what the media and the Dems do to her in follow up.
But hey, Trump is the rapey one here. Riiiight.