When to suck?

[UtilityCurve]

If you grew up when I did, porn or erotica followed a very rigid script:

1. Boy and girl flirt
2. Boy and girl kiss
3. Boy puts his hand on the girl's tit on top.of her clothes
4. Girl takes troublesome top clothing off
5. Boy sucks girl's tit(s)--never as long as I enjoyed, was I a freak?
6. Boy puts girl's hand on his still-clothrd cock
7. Girl struggles with boy's belt and zipper, but finally gets his underwear exposed (actually, male underwear was rare)
8. Girl takes boy's cock in hand
9. Girl slides down to take boy's cock in her mouth

Wait! WHAT?

Whoa. I  wish it had been that easy or rote.

I remember (truth) going down on my girl long before she held me. I remember lavishing attention on her nipples, like they must have been good-sore when she went to bed (alone) that night (and did something not altogether different from what I was doing in my own bedroom, far away).

Was the 1-9 sequence anyone else's story? I didn't experience a single episode of it until freshman year of college.

As far as saying porn is educational or ever was, maybe for guys who thought it was wrong to go down on their girls (technically the term for these males is "idiots") or girls who thought semen was something disgusting, but for the rest of us, it was kinda ... ho-hum and VERY strictly sequential.

Your remembery?

 

[haventdonethat]

If you grew up when I did, porn or erotica was on printed paper.

1. Boy and girl flirt
2. Boy and girl kiss while seated (with girl straddling boy's legs)
3. Boy reaches behind and undoes bra clasp while she lifts her shirt out of the way.
4. Boy undoes belt and pants, pulls them down to expose rock hard cock.
5. Girl says “oh, wow!!”
6. Boy sucks girl's tits
7. Girl jerks boy’s hard cock.
8. Girl bends down to take cock in her mouth but boy cums premature and hits her on forehead (and cheek and nose and lips and . . .) without any word of protest.
9. Repeat 6, 7 and modified 8 (modified to miss forehead) two more times in the next 5 minutes.
10. Girl bends down and gets cock in her mouth.

I was with a naughty girl. Naughty girls were called sluts back then.

She was a damn good slut.

 

[CuttingEdge]

I don't remember there being any right or wrong of proceeding.

In my day it was more of what we could get away with. Often times it was just a handjob "to take the edge off for you", but other times a quick blowjob, or even sex. Most of the time though, it was my girlfriend who got naked first. Part of that was, it proved she was truly consenting, and part of that was just necessity if she was not wearing a miniskirt. Today, I find I am almost always naked first, and more often; which is odd because I am not an exhibitionist or nudist kind of guy. Its not a big deal, but flipped from what it was in my youth.

 

[UtilityCurve]

If you grew up when I did, porn or erotica was on printed paper.

1. Boy and girl flirt
2. Boy and girl kiss while seated (with girl straddling boy's legs)
3. Boy reaches behind and undoes bra clasp while she lifts her shirt out of the way.
4. Boy undoes belt and pants, pulls them down to expose rock hard cock.
5. Girl says “oh, wow!!”
6. Boy sucks girl's tits
7. Girl jerks boy’s hard cock.
8. Girl bends down to take cock in her mouth but boy cums premature and hits her on forehead (and cheek and nose and lips and . . .) without any word of protest.
9. Repeat 6, 7 and modified 8 (modified to miss forehead) two more times in the next 5 minutes.
10. Girl bends down and gets cock in her mouth.

I was with a naughty girl. Naughty girls were called sluts back then.

She was a damn good slut.

"Without a word of protest?" Indeed she was!

We had "bad (or fun) girls." Only the other girls called them sluts.

 

[gtnlynn]

My experience was about the same as 1-5, but then while I kissed her tits, I slipped my fingers inside her panties and fingered her to orgasm. It was many many dates before my cock ever got out of my pants, and that was for a hand job, not a blow job.

 

[Inthelastrow]

I think steps 1-10 is scripted porn written for male viewers. My girlfriends never followed that script and were never porn actresses (or naughty girls). I usually had to work very hard to get to step 6, by skipping step 4 and 5, then writing my own script that concentrated on getting my hand her pants. Later it was getting her pants off, going down on her, then fucking. Hand jobs were a much later addition. Blow Jogs seldom as most of my girlfriends didn't like giving BJs - thought they were gross - but were fine with me going down on them (definitely not a porn script). My wife too hates BJs. Guess I would have liked to met a few sluts who knew the script!

 

[Intrepid47]

If you grew up when I did, porn or erotica followed a very rigid script:

1. Boy and girl flirt
2. Boy and girl kiss
3. Boy puts his hand on the girl's tit on top.of her clothes
4. Girl takes troublesome top clothing off
5. Boy sucks girl's tit(s)--never as long as I enjoyed, was I a freak?
6. Boy puts girl's hand on his still-clothrd cock
7. Girl struggles with boy's belt and zipper, but finally gets his underwear exposed (actually, male underwear was rare)
8. Girl takes boy's cock in hand
9. Girl slides down to take boy's cock in her mouth

Wait! WHAT?

Whoa. I  wish it had been that easy or rote.

I remember (truth) going down on my girl long before she held me. I remember lavishing attention on her nipples, like they must have been good-sore when she went to bed (alone) that night (and did something not altogether different from what I was doing in my own bedroom, far away).

Was the 1-9 sequence anyone else's story? I didn't experience a single episode of it until freshman year of college.

As far as saying porn is educational or ever was, maybe for guys who thought it was wrong to go down on their girls (technically the term for these males is "idiots") or girls who thought semen was something disgusting, but for the rest of us, it was kinda ... ho-hum and VERY strictly sequential.

Your remembery?

My remembery is similar but not that detailed. That was awesome to read!

My experience has not followed that formula AT ALL.

My cock has very rarely come into a girl’s mouth and even fewer times than that been allowed to cum there.

I started to go down on a girlfriend many years ago, a brand new first for either of us. She sort of went down on my too. Neither of us went “all the way” with the other. We couldn’t make ourselves have sex—some moral upbringing interfered—and I rubbed the head of my cock on her clit (but I didn’t know that’s what I was doing) until she orgasmed (but I didn’t know that’s what she was doing) and then I came very shortly after that all over her pubic hair and belly.

No, none of my experiences have followed the porn formula, though it seems that porn does still largely follow one of only a few formulas.

 

[lil_jenni]

So, I was one of those slutty girls (still am, but just for my Hubby). I lived out variations on that sequence a lot through most of my years at college (and before). But then again, that was all hooking up. I did not date. I did not hang with guys I liked. I rarely did repeats. I hooked up with guys, went down on them, then took care of myself later. That was as much intimacy as I could handle (i.e. almost none).

Now, when I was drunk, the variations on the theme increased and involved vaginal sex, guys going down on me (although I almost never came that way with men until Hubby), anal sex, multiple partner sex, etc. But with just a good buzz going, I was going to hook up, let the guy play with my boobs (if he wanted... some guys wanted me to go straight to sucking once they understood that was where things were headed ()), blow the guy, and then go home and Jill off thinking about blowing the guy (and/or thinking about my greatest hits... ).

 

[UtilityCurve]

My remembery is similar but not that detailed. That was awesome to read!

My experience has not followed that formula AT ALL.

My cock has very rarely come into a girl’s mouth and even fewer times than that been allowed to cum there.

I started to go down on a girlfriend many years ago, a brand new first for either of us. She sort of went down on my too. Neither of us went “all the way” with the other. We couldn’t make ourselves have sex—some moral upbringing interfered—and I rubbed the head of my cock on her clit (but I didn’t know that’s what I was doing) until she orgasmed (but I didn’t know that’s what she was doing) and then I came very shortly after that all over her pubic hair and belly.

No, none of my experiences have followed the porn formula, though it seems that porn does still largely follow one of only a few formulas.

Not to worry: My first GF never even considered the possibility that the solution to "not making a mess" and "you need, you know, relief" was her mouth.

 

[UtilityCurve]

So, I was one of those slutty girls (still am, but just for my Hubby). I lived out variations on that sequence a lot through most of my years at college (and before). But then again, that was all hooking up. I did not date. I did not hang with guys I liked. I rarely did repeats. I hooked up with guys, went down on them, then took care of myself later. That was as much intimacy as I could handle (i.e. almost none).

Now, when I was drunk, the variations on the theme increased and involved vaginal sex, guys going down on me (although I almost never came that way with men until Hubby), anal sex, multiple partner sex, etc. But with just a good buzz going, I was going to hook up, let the guy play with my boobs (if he wanted... some guys wanted me to go straight to sucking once they understood that was where things were headed ()), blow the guy, and then go home and Jill off thinking about blowing the guy (and/or thinking about my greatest hits... ).

Jenni, no matter how much I wanted a girl in the moment, upon reflection (read "jerking off afterward thinking about it") a bit of the memory was tarnished by her being under the influence.

A therapist surfaced that thought.

I have no doubt that girls have "sober regrets" or at least "sober reflections" but if you were immune to these, it would be an IMMENSE turn-on to read how it felt/feels to be different from all your (F) friends.

 

[lil_jenni]

Jenni, no matter how much I wanted a girl in the moment, upon reflection (read "jerking off afterward thinking about it") a bit of the memory was tarnished by her being under the influence.

A therapist surfaced that thought.

I have no doubt that girls have "sober regrets" or at least "sober reflections" but if you were immune to these, it would be an IMMENSE turn-on to read how it felt/feels to be different from all your (F) friends.

Oh, I had lots of sober regrets. The most recent was making a pass at (i.e. groping and kissing) my Husband's female.cousin during covid lockdown. I quit drinking entirely after that.

But most of my sober regrets come from how out of control I was (I usually was told about it the next day) when drunk. But buzzed was different. I knew what would happen and intended it to happen. I also knew what I did when buzzed wouldn't get out of my.control. The problem was that sometimes the drinking itself got out of my control, and that could lead to sober regrets.

 

[TinaG_2023]

Or one bad experience,

Boy brings girl home after a date. Standing at the front door he pulls out his dick and asks girl if she would suck his cock. Girl slaps boy and quickly goes into the house. Boy never calls again!! Girl warns other girls about that jerk!

 

[Bonnie_Does]

Or one bad experience,

Boy brings girl home after a date. Standing at the front door he pulls out his dick and asks girl if she would suck his cock. Girl slaps boy and quickly goes into the house. Boy never calls again!! Girl warns other girls about that jerk!

That's too funny Tina!!

 

[TinaG_2023]

That's too funny Tina!!

I at least would like a kiss before sucking a guys cock!!

 

[vibes]

I at least would like a kiss before sucking a guys cock!!

Acknowledged!

This reminded me once a girl I was dating told me that kissing was way more intimate than giving a bj to her

 

[lil_jenni]

I at least would like a kiss before sucking a guys cock!!

Oh, we've led very different lives. I usually tried to move quickly past kissing (at least on the mouth) when I hooked up with guys. Too intimate. Sex of any kind was just physical.to me then. Kissing was something very different. With he who became Hubby was the first time I really let myself enjoy kissing, and that's because (1) he is fantastic kisser, and (2) I really liked him from the moment I met him, unlike any guy before.

 

[Artfan2]

I at least would like a kiss before sucking a guys cock!!

Haha, deal!

 

[StrongMaster7]

I understand the question and I dig where you are coming from.

In my experience, as I voiced on other threads, the world is a far less sexual place than it is for some other Lit folks. Sex is rarely openly talked about except in a joking way and then only by close friends. In my high school years, I recall being told about one guy I knew getting one blowjob in the high school band room. Both were of legal age. One guy. Once. And I only heard about it.

With apologies for the preamble, NO, sex wasn't like that for me ever. It moved much more slowly. I got a kiss from a girl on the second date. I didn't touch her breast for months. I did get a bj from her at graduation months after that. Now, this particular girl would jerk me off, in my pants, in my underwear. I was pretty skinny and she would only loosen and unzip enough for access. I got to the point where I looked forward to it. And I guess she was right to be so careful. I recall having two fingers deep in her wet pussy one afternoon on their back porch, when her dad stealthily walked in on us. I know he knew.

In college the pace was little better. I met the woman in early September. Kissed right away. My hands on her tits over the sweater, maybe a week later. A real, honest to God start to finish blowjob (she swallowed) maybe a month later. But we didn't fuck until after Christmas due to roommates (lack of privacy).

Last thing - Speaking of porn, which I love, one side effect of spending endless hours watching old xxx VHS tapes back in the day was that I felt like every woman I saw might, just might, walk up to me and ask me to fuck. None ever did.

 

[UtilityCurve]

Or one bad experience,

Boy brings girl home after a date. Standing at the front door he pulls out his dick and asks girl if she would suck his cock. Girl slaps boy and quickly goes into the house. Boy never calls again!! Girl warns other girls about that jerk!

He's a jerk (or will be jerking), but not incorrigible.

Big plus for her not doing it. (AND I AM A GUY!!!)

 

[Strawberris]

If you grew up when I did, porn or erotica followed a very rigid script:

1. Boy and girl flirt
2. Boy and girl kiss
3. Boy puts his hand on the girl's tit on top.of her clothes
4. Girl takes troublesome top clothing off
5. Boy sucks girl's tit(s)--never as long as I enjoyed, was I a freak?
6. Boy puts girl's hand on his still-clothrd cock
7. Girl struggles with boy's belt and zipper, but finally gets his underwear exposed (actually, male underwear was rare)
8. Girl takes boy's cock in hand
9. Girl slides down to take boy's cock in her mouth

Wait! WHAT?

Whoa. I  wish it had been that easy or rote.

I remember (truth) going down on my girl long before she held me. I remember lavishing attention on her nipples, like they must have been good-sore when she went to bed (alone) that night (and did something not altogether different from what I was doing in my own bedroom, far away).

Was the 1-9 sequence anyone else's story? I didn't experience a single episode of it until freshman year of college.

As far as saying porn is educational or ever was, maybe for guys who thought it was wrong to go down on their girls (technically the term for these males is "idiots") or girls who thought semen was something disgusting, but for the rest of us, it was kinda ... ho-hum and VERY strictly sequential.

Your remembery?

I remember most romance stories and porn scripts yes following the certain sequence of events for sure. Real life was far from following those most of the time and porn was best to maybe get an idea from but not always anything close to how it happened or occured in reality.

 

[UtilityCurve]

My experience was about the same as 1-5, but then while I kissed her tits, I slipped my fingers inside her panties and fingered her to orgasm. It was many many dates before my cock ever got out of my pants, and that was for a hand job, not a blow job.

I can't say I was so quick to get my finger(s) wet , but yeah, she got hers long before I got mine.

And I have no lingering regret/annoyance at that. Someone had to be first and if you knew her back then, you'd be amazed at how she was as straight as an arrow, but scared to death of semen.

 

[docisin]

If you grew up when I did, porn or erotica followed a very rigid script

 

[docisin]

well, when DID you?

 

[ffunguy38]

I at least would like a kiss before sucking a guys cock!!

I would kiss you before, and after, if you would like...

 

[CuttingEdge]

I understand the question and I dig where you are coming from.

In my experience, as I voiced on other threads, the world is a far less sexual place than it is for some other Lit folks. Sex is rarely openly talked about except in a joking way and then only by close friends. In my high school years, I recall being told about one guy I knew getting one blowjob in the high school band room. Both were of legal age. One guy. Once. And I only heard about it.

I am not sure that is all that correct, at least in terms of a worldly view.

Whether it be a couple, some friends, or even coworkers gathering around talking at work, it does not take long in modern society... in a sexualized world, for the topic of sex to come up in any conversation. It might not be as direct, or as crash, or as vulgar as what gets discussed on a sexual site, but sex is a HUGE part of being an adult, and is discussed quickly in most western society conversations. If these seems untrue, just stop and listen to conversations, even in such places as schools where staff members get together and chat, its not long before the topic of sex is broached.

For individuals, it depends on how they were raised. My girlfriend grew up in a house where sex was NEVER discussed, and having the friends she does, which are virgins at the ages of 50, sex is seldom discussed within that circle. But my experience was different. My parents were never crass about sex, but when we got old enough to know what sex was, it was discussed. We watched movies with sex scenes, and knew definitely how babies were made. In high school, the year book was often filled with the high school senior girls saying, "My date with Matt down by the river was my fondest memory", which was code for, "that is to whom, where and when I lost my virginity", and I graduated in 1992. It was not just one slutty girl that put that in, but dozens and dozens of girls. I am sure today it is even more prolific and unreserved.