The competition for “most extreme violence” heats up

[MajorRewrite]

Today in the Loving Wives category there is a story that glorifies a hitman who murders cheating spouses and another story in which a cheater’s fingers are cut off in front of his blameless wife. 2023 is still young, but these stories will likely be strong contenders for the GOOV (Get Off On Violence) awards at the end of the year.

GOOV enthusiasts praised both stories in the comments section. The reader who goes by the name “IncelTurd” typified the responses when he wrote, “Every time he murdered someone I creamed my pants.”

GOOV readers are known to demand an ever-escalating spiral of violent revenge to satisfy their bloodthirsty kink, so what will authors come up with next? Only time will tell.

 

[djrip]

To each their own. For me, a revenge subplot (or god forbid, primary plot) is an instant boner killer. Any eroticism built up vanishes like a wisp of smoke. I've enjoyed a few that included revenge if it was minor and they had plenty of other, actually enjoyable stuff going on, but it becomes a hurdle the story has to overcome. Same when the MC turns into Magnum P.I. for a couple of pages.

 

[Stimtheone]

I enjoy simply knowing of these things, but not reading them because god damn I feel sane whenever I hear about it.

On my case, seems more like wish fulfillment rather than a guy trying to put a story.

 

[PastMaster]

Today in the Loving Wives category there is a story that glorifies a hitman who murders cheating spouses and another story in which a cheater’s fingers are cut off in front of his blameless wife. 2023 is still young, but these stories will likely be strong contenders for the GOOV (Get Off On Violence) awards at the end of the year.

GOOV enthusiasts praised both stories in the comments section. The reader who goes by the name “IncelTurd” typified the responses when he wrote, “Every time he murdered someone I creamed my pants.”

GOOV readers are known to demand an ever-escalating spiral of to satisfy their bloodthirsty kink, so what will authors come up with next? Only time will tell.

If you think my story The Hitman is violent - you should read Timstoppers Revenge which isnt on lit because they wouldnt post it.

With regard to feedback - As is always the case in the LW section i got a lot of feedback on both sides of the argument - There were plenty that enjoyed the revenge he took, but there were others who decried the violence - one of whom accused me of being a mass murderer who was about to go shoot up a nightclub.

It was a story, and to my mind not even particularly violent. Alright he was a killer- but there was no graphic description of the violent acts, you see worse on most PG15 films these days and certainly on video games.

 

[MajorRewrite]

If you think my story The Hitman is violent - you should read Timstoppers Revenge which isnt on lit because they wouldnt post it.

With regard to feedback - As is always the case in the LW section i got a lot of feedback on both sides of the argument - There were plenty that enjoyed the revenge he took, but there were others who decried the violence - one of whom accused me of being a mass murderer who was about to go shoot up a nightclub.

It was a story, and to my mind not even particularly violent. Alright he was a killer- but there was no graphic description of the violent acts, you see worse on most PG15 films these days and certainly on video games.

Okay, some of the violence occurred “off camera” but your main character snuffs people, and not entirely for the money.

My question is: did you intend the reader to get an erotic thrill from the murders? This is an erotic story site and murders are the focus of your story so I think it’s a legitimate question. Judging from the comments, some of the readers do seem to jack off to murder.

 

[PastMaster]

Okay, some of the violence occurred “off camera” but your main character snuffs people, and not entirely for the money.

My question is: did you intend the reader to get an erotic thrill from the murders? This is an erotic story site and murders are the focus of your story so I think it’s a legitimate question. Judging from the comments, some of the readers do seem to jack off to murder.

The answer to that is definitely no.
This was a revenge story - seeing a man who was wronged take revenge against someone who wronged him. There was never any intent to sexualize the murder.
Was that revenge commensurate to the offence? ask someone who has been cheated on, and someone who hasnt and you probably will get two different answers.
Yes this is an erotic story site but there are plenty of non-erotic stories - many of them contain as much if not more violence than mine.
A fair question would be - why not post in the non erotic section - and my answer to that would be that this was a cheating wife story - and those live squarely in the LW category.

 

[lovecraft68]

Good to see Lit allows violence and torture for titillation. Especially in a category like LW which is supposed to be erotic(unlike horror or sci fi or non human where you get different types of content) But lit has proven time and again over the years that despite their claims otherwise, and the support of their invertebrate suck ups, they have no standards, traffic is traffic even if its walking filth

 

[lovecraft68]

The answer to that is definitely no.
This was a revenge story - seeing a man who was wronged take revenge against someone who wronged him. There was never any intent to sexualize the murder.
Was that revenge commensurate to the offence? ask someone who has been cheated on, and someone who hasnt and you probably will get two different answers.
Yes this is an erotic story site but there are plenty of non-erotic stories - many of them contain as much if not more violence than mine.
A fair question would be - why not post in the non erotic section - and my answer to that would be that this was a cheating wife story - and those live squarely in the LW category.

No you put it in LW to get the adoration of the garbage you seek to inspire. As I've said many times and will again just for you. These stories are written by trash for trash.

 

[PastMaster]

No you put it in LW to get the adoration of the garbage you seek to inspire. As I've said many times and will again just for you. These stories are written by trash for trash.

I think adoration is a strong word. One thing you cannot deny is that LW is quite probably THE most viewed category on the site. Written by trash for trash is a little harsh. It's a niche, and people want to read it, I'm just giving them some The trashy feedback is expected in that category - the annoying accusations on that story are the ones saying i've stolen the story from someone else - which I definately did not.
Perhaps these guys are looking for some vicarious revenge since they themselves were cheated upon. Seeing some woman (or man) suffer as a result of infidelity may give them some kind of peace.
Perhaps some writers write these stories for the same reason.

 

[lovecraft68]

I think adoration is a strong word. One thing you cannot deny is that LW is quite probably THE most viewed category on the site. Written by trash for trash is a little harsh. It's a niche, and people want to read it, I'm just giving them some The trashy feedback is expected in that category - the annoying accusations on that story are the ones saying i've stolen the story from someone else - which I definately did not.
Perhaps these guys are looking for some vicarious revenge since they themselves were cheated upon. Seeing some woman (or man) suffer as a result of infidelity may give them some kind of peace.
Perhaps some writers write these stories for the same reason.

It had a very large readership, most commented on, a question of whether or not its the attention you want.
I stand by my words trash for trash. If you can write to cater to the filth there I'm sure you can handle a rude comment from me.

I'm divorced, first wife cheated, real piece of work, did some shitty things to my kids-sending them ultimately to me-and do I wish ill upon her? Yes. Do I hate every woman on Earth because of her like the incels in LW do? No. Do I need to write about violence being committed to make believe women for catharsis? No. Do I, like the trash over there, want to do these things to real women? No.

Why? Because I'm a man, and I sucked it up and moved on.
However, I do have more than my share of malice in me, but its directed at men and not just on the net, but in real life, and that's the difference. My catharsis came from hitting someone who doesn't have tits and can hit back.

That's the difference between us and your readership. I'd be more than happy to meet up with any LW incel or BTB author in person.

 

[PastMaster]

It had a very large readership, most commented on, a question of whether or not its the attention you want.
I stand by my words trash for trash. If you can write to cater to the filth there I'm sure you can handle a rude comment from me.

I'm divorced, first wife cheated, real piece of work, did some shitty things to my kids-sending them ultimately to me-and do I wish ill upon her? Yes. Do I hate every woman on Earth because of her like the incels in LW do? No. Do I need to write about violence being committed to make believe women for catharsis? No. Do I, like the trash over there, want to do these things to real women? No.

Why? Because I'm a man, and I sucked it up and moved on.
However, I do have more than my share of malice in me, but its directed at men and not just on the net, but in real life, and that's the difference. My catharsis came from hitting someone who doesn't have tits and can hit back.

That's the difference between us and your readership. I'd be more than happy to meet up with any LW incel or BTB author in person.

YOu seem to be making some assumptions that 1 I hate women - i dont - ive been married now for 25 years to a wonderful woman. 2 that i would want to hurt a woman IRL . which couldnt be further from the truth.

Like you my first wife shat on me from a great height - I actually caught her in bed with her ex bf. Did I kick off, do violence, as all the LW readers would have hoped. - no - I - quite politely i thougt under the circumstances, asked him to leave, and then divorced her. Its a short story and not very satisfying.

Did i, for a long time, have daydreams that i stormed in, and beat the shit out of him, and then exacted some amazing retribution on her? No comment.

Do i sometimes revisit those daydreams i might or might not have had, and create a fantasy story based on the feelings evoked? no comment.

Do I know the difference between reality and fantasy? definately. It could and would never happen in real life.

There's another LW story of mine being posted tomorrow. Again its a BTB and our MC barely raises his voice to her. Believe it or not the whole hitman story came about as I was trying to think of an original way a man could discover the infidelity.

No matter your view on them LW gives me readers. They read my LW stories - then they read my non LW stories. Some of them like them enough to want to read more, and so go to my patreon and pay me for them.

Is it shameless commercialism? No comment.

 

[AwkwardlySet]

YOu seem to be making some assumptions that 1 I hate women - i dont - ive been married now for 25 years to a wonderful woman. 2 that i would want to hurt a woman IRL . which couldnt be further from the truth.

Like you my first wife shat on me from a great height - I actually caught her in bed with her ex bf. Did I kick off, do violence, as all the LW readers would have hoped. - no - I - quite politely i thougt under the circumstances, asked him to leave, and then divorced her. Its a short story and not very satisfying.

Did i, for a long time, have daydreams that i stormed in, and beat the shit out of him, and then exacted some amazing retribution on her? No comment.

Do i sometimes revisit those daydreams i might or might not have had, and create a fantasy story based on the feelings evoked? no comment.

Do I know the difference between reality and fantasy? definately. It could and would never happen in real life.

There's another LW story of mine being posted tomorrow. Again its a BTB and our MC barely raises his voice to her. Believe it or not the whole hitman story came about as I was trying to think of an original way a man could discover the infidelity.

No matter your view on them LW gives me readers. They read my LW stories - then they read my non LW stories. Some of them like them enough to want to read more, and so go to my patreon and pay me for them.

Is it shameless commercialism? No comment.

I must say your post has made me remember a discussion I had long ago, with a girl I've met during my university days.
She was watching a trash reality show, a kind of where a house is filled with men and women who seriously lack intellect and morality, and where they all argue, screw, cheat on each other, present some sob stories, and so on. And she spent hours watching it.
I asked her: "Why are you watching that crap? Don't tell me you are actually intrigued by anything they say."
She said : "Of course not! I am laughing at them, how stupid and petty and ridiculous they are. It is like a study of human nature for me."
I said: "You realize that by watching this, you are actually supporting this crap? The TV networks couldn't care less WHY you are watching it, as long as their ratings go up. So by watching this and by making this trash popular, you are encouraging them to make more and more of that trash. It's like a vicious circle. The only right choice is NOT to watch it, to make it unpopular and thus force them to remove it and put something better on our screens."


So, while I understand the commercial factor for you in all this, by writing these kinds of stories, you are feeding those who want to read them, thus, in a way, promoting wrong kind of erotic stories. I don't think I've ever felt like shaming anyone for their fantasies, but these kind of fantasies, where one gets off on somebody being tortured to death in revenge, cross the line for many people.

 

[PastMaster]

I must say your post has made me remember a discussion I had long ago, with a girl I've met during my university days.
She was watching a trash reality show, a kind of where a house is filled with men and women who seriously lack intellect and morality, and where they all argue, screw, cheat on each other, present some sob stories, and so on. And she spent hours watching it.
I asked her: "Why are you watching that crap? Don't tell me you are actually intrigued by anything they say."
She said : "Of course not! I am laughing at them, how stupid and petty and ridiculous they are. It is like a study of human nature for me."
I said: "You realize that by watching this, you are actually supporting this crap? The TV networks couldn't care less WHY you are watching it, as long as their ratings go up. So by watching this and by making this trash popular, you are encouraging them to make more and more of that trash. It's like a vicious circle. The only right choice is NOT to watch it, to make it unpopular and thus force them to remove it and put something better on our screens."


So, while I understand the commercial factor for you in all this, by writing these kinds of stories, you are feeding those who want to read them, thus, in a way, promoting wrong kind of erotic stories. I don't think I've ever felt like shaming anyone for their fantasies, but these kind of fantasies, where one gets off on somebody being tortured to death in revenge, cross the line for many people.

I understand your point regarding people 'getting off' to death and torture but i'm not sure i see it the same way, and here's why

These sories dont provide any kind of sexual fulfillment, certainly not for me. They're not fap stories. They do, however, give a certain amount of satisfaction, that justice has been done. Or perhaps justice is the wrong word, that revenge has been achieved. Does the punishment fit the crime? obviously not. But this is fiction.
I can't say why others read these stories. It may be as you say that they are sitting beating off thinking of the pain and suffering. That is a very disturbing thought.

I also agree with what you said to your girl about 'supporting the crap TV' even if the only reason for tuning in is to laugh at it. but in my case - i'm not the viewer - i'm the TV station making the money from all those tuning in. Give the people what they want.
Are you arguing that by writing these stories i'm promoting violence, and the readers are likely to go out and perpetrate violence. Its a point of view - but there is so much violence in mainstream entertainment that of the millions that watched reservoir dogs, or the millions that played GTA, the few thousand that read my stories are a drop in a very very very big ocean. My refraining from writing such stories is going to have no appreciable effect.

The bottom line is that they are allowed, and they get readers. It seems that arguing the rules on this site gets nobody anywhere - and so until Laurel changes the rules - they will continue to be posted.

 

[AwkwardlySet]

I understand your point regarding people 'getting off' to death and torture but i'm not sure i see it the same way, and here's why

These sories dont provide any kind of sexual fulfillment, certainly not for me. They're not fap stories. They do, however, give a certain amount of satisfaction, that justice has been done. Or perhaps justice is the wrong word, that revenge has been achieved. Does the punishment fit the crime? obviously not. But this is fiction.
I can't say why others read these stories. It may be as you say that they are sitting beating off thinking of the pain and suffering. That is a very disturbing thought.

I also agree with what you said to your girl about 'supporting the crap TV' even if the only reason for tuning in is to laugh at it. but in my case - i'm not the viewer - i'm the TV station making the money from all those tuning in. Give the people what they want.
Are you arguing that by writing these stories i'm promoting violence, and the readers are likely to go out and perpetrate violence. Its a point of view - but there is so much violence in mainstream entertainment that of the millions that watched reservoir dogs, or the millions that played GTA, the few thousand that read my stories are a drop in a very very very big ocean. My refraining from writing such stories is going to have no appreciable effect.

The bottom line is that they are allowed, and they get readers. It seems that arguing the rules on this site gets nobody anywhere - and so until Laurel changes the rules - they will continue to be posted.

Not really promoting violence in the usual sense, no. I bet my own stories have much more death and fighting than yours, even though I haven't really read any of your work. Well, I don't read LW at all. The way that story was described here implied that there was a certain satisfaction in torturing a person to death. As it is an erotic story, it's not hard to imagine someone getting off on that. There is so much violence in every media, but this is more about the message you are sending with that violence than about the violence itself. I am also not a believer in " Give people what they want" philosophy. People are cattle and they need guidance most of the time.

Anyway, you are absolutely right about that last part. Those kinds of stories are clearly allowed on Lit, so maybe all this talk shouldn't be directed at you and other authors who write them. You are a content creator, you make the content, but Lit is really the TV network from my example; Lit is the one who puts it out there.

 

[MajorRewrite]

It may be as you say that they are sitting beating off thinking of the pain and suffering. That is a very disturbing thought.

Amen to that.

 

[TheRedChamber]

Having read the story, I have to say that I struggled with the idea that sleeping with other people behind your spouse's back was a worse betrayal than secretly being a professional hitman with tens of murders under your belt and a definite life/death sentence if caught. I was kind of hoping the wife might call him out on this before her inevitable offing, but alas no.

 

[jaF0]

There is NO place for this type of filth on Lit at all. NO exceptions, NO excuses.

Is it being approved? Or is it just slipping through the filters?

If I were Admin and I found a single example of this garbage, I would toss the member and their entire library entirely.

 

[PastMaster]

There is NO place for this type of filth on Lit at all. NO exceptions, NO excuses.

Is it being approved? Or is it just slipping through the filters?

If I were Admin and I found a single example of this garbage, I would toss the member and their entire library entirely.

Well since the story was at first rejected, and then after a small change - was posted - I woule have to assume that it was approved rather than just slipped through the filters.

I find your reaction somewhat extreme considering some of the other stories that are posted on this site. I read one recently where an ICE agent was brutally raped and killed by having a hot implement inserted into her and then finally shot through her vagina. I was sickened and although I enjoyed the entire story series reported that particular installment because of that.

I also find your totalitarianism somewhat disturbing. it makes me very glad that you are NOT an admin. Your kind of view on the world is dangerous and would ultimately lead to the kind of censorship of anything and everything that YOU didnt approve of.

Its simple in and of itself. If you dont like my stuff - don't read it. Nobody is twisting your arm.

 

[jaF0]

Your posts across the various forums tell me all I need to know.

 

[PastMaster]

Your posts across the various forums tell me all I need to know.

All you need to know - is dont read my stories - and you life will be so much sweeter. But I doubt that you will heed that or any advice.
You are an angry little person who relishes the opportunity to rant and rave and stamp your little feet.
I've no doubt that in medeval times you would have been the leader of the mob - torch and pitchfork in hand screaming for the witch to be burned because she engendered impure thoughts in your seedy little brain.
Your llk make me sick - you pretend morality while trawling porn sites.

 

[NoTalentHack]

Not really promoting violence in the usual sense, no. I bet my own stories have much more death and fighting than yours, even though I haven't really read any of your work. Well, I don't read LW at all. The way that story was described here implied that there was a certain satisfaction in torturing a person to death. As it is an erotic story, it's not hard to imagine someone getting off on that. There is so much violence in every media, but this is more about the message you are sending with that violence than about the violence itself. I am also not a believer in " Give people what they want" philosophy. People are cattle and they need guidance most of the time.

Anyway, you are absolutely right about that last part. Those kinds of stories are clearly allowed on Lit, so maybe all this talk shouldn't be directed at you and other authors who write them. You are a content creator, you make the content, but Lit is really the TV network from my example; Lit is the one who puts it out there.

I'll take issue with something you said here: almost none of the BTB-style stories are really erotic stories. They might have sex in them, but it tends to be very sparsely described. That's not 100%, but the sex is very rarely the focus of the story. In the two mentioned ("500 Times Revenge" and "The Hit Man"), out of the ~10K words in each, I'd be surprised if more than 2-300 were devoted to sex, and even then not to any kind of loving description of the act. They're not erotic stories; even if someone was looking to get off on snuff, they're not really erotic. The violence exists, but isn't any more lovingly described than the sex, just a rather bloodless description of what happens.

Loving Wives is simply not 100% erotic section of the site, and it hasn't been in a long time. The people going there are often not looking for erotic stories; it's the only place on Literotica where I've gotten the note "there's too much sex, it's slowing the plot down."

While I've not written any BTBs that present physical harm to the wife, I have written a few where physical revenge is taken on the affair partner, and psychological on the spouse. In one case ("Philanthropic") the AP is murdered, and the MMC is presented as either an avenging angel of the late-stage-capitalism era or a broken man seeking revenge just like the man that had wronged him; it's left up to the reader decide, and there are comments that argue both. In another ("At the End of the Tour"), the MMC is basically about a hairs breadth from a psychotic break over the course of ~48 hours when he learns that his wife has been sporadically cheating on him for almost the entire length of their relationship; it ends with him violently attacking the AP. Later, I came back and wrote the story from the wife's point of view and what had been a BTB turned into a reconciliation story.

To the folks that say "I just won't read LW," well, that's your prerogative. But I will say that the criticisms made by those folks read a whole lot like "serious" literary fiction fans pooh poohing romance novels, science fiction, and all of the other stuff in the "genre fiction" categories. There's some really great stuff, both erotic and non-erotic in LW, and skipping it because some of it might be revenge fantasy nonsense seems like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Just throwing this out there, but if you want some stories to read that I'd recommend (because they're mine, heh):

After the Future is Gone (2 part series): not a BTB in sight, just a guy picking himself up after a divorce; lots of sex. - https://literotica.com/s/after-the-future-is-gone-pt-01
Arbitrary: no physical burning here, but a bit of prevenge on the part of the MMC; lots of sex - https://literotica.com/s/arbitrary
Incompatible Needs (2 art series): Three very flawed people badly navigating polyamory; lots of sex - https://literotica.com/s/incompatible-needs-pt-01
Indulgences: A wife that made a slip one time and unsuccessfully hid it afterwards desperately tries to find a way to rebuild trust; sex is only implied - https://literotica.com/s/arbitrary
Kayfabe: A comedic take on the cuck/bull/hotwife story that does a deep dive into why people might get into it; barely any sex - https://literotica.com/s/kayfabe
No Place to Go: A gut wrenching no win scenario for a husband that receives a letter from his departed wife; no sex - https://literotica.com/s/no-place-to-go-1
Shouldering the Burden: A bittersweet piece about a husband's love for his wife after her affair; no sex - https://literotica.com/s/shouldering-the-burden
Unwanted Memories: A hated wife's coma becomes a chrysalis for a new life; a pretty good amount of sex, all tied into the plot - https://literotica.com/s/unwanted-memories-2

All very different stories, with different tones, outcomes, etc. And that's the thing: that's LW in a nutshell. It's just that on the forums, the only thing that ever gets talked about are how mean/crazy the comments are, and how they obviously are fapping to violence against women. They're not, or at least most of them aren't.

Looking at the 25 new stories on LW right now: 2 of them are violent BTBs, 8 are nonviolent BTBs or simple cheating/divorce dramas, and the other 15 are some combination of swapping/sharing/cuckolding/reconciliation stories. There's a huge variety in there, arguably more than any category besides Fetish or Sc-Fi. And if you're skipping it because there might be violence in some stories? I don't know what to tell you.

 

[Wargamer]

Thank you guys for great stories, l enjoy them. The violence emotional and physical is fine with me and give good depth to the stories. But they don’t make me want to go and bash someone.
I’m fairly well known here, especially in LW l like most stories here hating only Cuck tales.
Don’t know about Lovecraft68 he’s written some toe curlers in his time here, eg, Siblings with Benefits stories and The Circle series are quite violent in places as well. Read them here and at Smashwords and see for yourself.
A little bit of the pot calling the kettle black.
BTW l loved those stories and others of his as well.

 

[Stimtheone]

At least hearing about this story does give me confidence that my next work can have some pretty brutal events happen. Not for sexual thrill, mind you.

 

[Bramblethorn]

To the folks that say "I just won't read LW," well, that's your prerogative. But I will say that the criticisms made by those folks read a whole lot like "serious" literary fiction fans pooh poohing romance novels, science fiction, and all of the other stuff in the "genre fiction" categories. There's some really great stuff, both erotic and non-erotic in LW, and skipping it because some of it might be revenge fantasy nonsense seems like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Just throwing this out there, but if you want some stories to read that I'd recommend (because they're mine, heh):

After the Future is Gone (2 part series): not a BTB in sight, just a guy picking himself up after a divorce; lots of sex. - https://literotica.com/s/after-the-future-is-gone-pt-01
Arbitrary: no physical burning here, but a bit of prevenge on the part of the MMC; lots of sex - https://literotica.com/s/arbitrary
Incompatible Needs (2 art series): Three very flawed people badly navigating polyamory; lots of sex - https://literotica.com/s/incompatible-needs-pt-01
Indulgences: A wife that made a slip one time and unsuccessfully hid it afterwards desperately tries to find a way to rebuild trust; sex is only implied - https://literotica.com/s/arbitrary
Kayfabe: A comedic take on the cuck/bull/hotwife story that does a deep dive into why people might get into it; barely any sex - https://literotica.com/s/kayfabe
No Place to Go: A gut wrenching no win scenario for a husband that receives a letter from his departed wife; no sex - https://literotica.com/s/no-place-to-go-1
Shouldering the Burden: A bittersweet piece about a husband's love for his wife after her affair; no sex - https://literotica.com/s/shouldering-the-burden
Unwanted Memories: A hated wife's coma becomes a chrysalis for a new life; a pretty good amount of sex, all tied into the plot - https://literotica.com/s/unwanted-memories-2

All very different stories, with different tones, outcomes, etc. And that's the thing: that's LW in a nutshell. It's just that on the forums, the only thing that ever gets talked about are how mean/crazy the comments are, and how they obviously are fapping to violence against women. They're not, or at least most of them aren't.

I don't have the time or attention span to get through a 40k word story right now, but I took a quick look at the comments on the first part of After the Future is Gone. Out of 180 comments, most of them are lovely, with a few complaining about creative choices like you'll get anywhere on Literotica.

And then about 10% are things like these:

"She should seduce his piece of shit ex best friend and have his ex wife walk in and find them. Ultimate revenge."

"I hope our two protagonists stay together and the former wife and ex-best friend suffer some kind of retribution in the next chapter."

"Some revenge definitely needs to happen to Pete and Lisa I hope the star makes him a millionaire that’s the best revenge and a new woman."

"Very well done. Now for some happy ever after sweetened by karmic revenge."

"I know, I know this isn't a BTB but I wish it was. If you could find a way to really burn the ex wife and best friend, it would be a 10. Like it very much so far!"

"Needs chapter 2. excellent story but some folks need a little retribution"

"Pete needs a serious ass whuppin"

"I understand all the "reasons" for the break-up but the cheating way his wife and friend did it called for drastic retaliation. As a writer I don't think you have it in you to do this so why not open it up to others with that talent and let them finish it."

"Perfect for a LifeTime channel movie. It checks all the boxes: television quality psychobabble counselor drivel, largely feminized male (e.g. "Tinkerbell" made "HIM" feel "safe and protected"), the usual TV/movie romance cliches (e.g. "there for you..."), and, of course, illiterate, woketard misuse of pronouns."

"Wow - great story - hurry up on the next part and keep writing. I would love to see him get some revenge…"

"Not a bad story, though with some problems. That whole "daddy"part was unnecessary and quite strange. Plus pair of cheaters should meet some kind of payback - MC doesn't have to move a finger, but it would be nice."

"It's an enjoyable story but quite frankly I understand why the wife cheated on him because the main character has been such a pathetic loser. If you're in your mid thirties and you're still playing Dungeons & Dragons then you don't have a life. If that isn't the sign of a complete loser I don't know what is."

"A totally meaningless story, Don't care about hoe he moves on, the only interesting things to now are hoe he gets even"

"It just amazes me, that even with such an excellent written storey as this that dozens of self righteous asshats just ant to complain instead of thanking the writer for all the countless hours he put into this magnificent work of art in a story form. What is it about the "comment" section that encourages these asshats to spout off such nonsense as whining about a young woman calling her lover "Daddy"? These "nic-pickers" obviously have nothing better to do. Therefore it is easy to conclude that they live a life of ease in their Mommie's basement. Therefore, they have no real life experience at anything except whining. Let me offer you some advice morons, go join the ARMY, learn a little about life first. Then come back and give us a more valid opinion because if all you can do is "whine" about this little thing or that little thing, you obviously don't know that there are much more important things in the world to be concerned about. Like our Govt under Biden flooding the country with illegal aliens. With the Corrupt congress spending trillions on useless things. Why is all this going on? It is because everyone in DC is a "bought and paid for crook" for one thing. That is why there are so many millionaires in Congress. Because China and The New World Order are Trying to Destroy our country and going about it in many ways all at the same time. Most of the moron whiners don't know that once Congress spends enough money that the Govt can't make the minimum payment on the interest that our Govt will collapse and the UN or the New World Order will step in and take control. Guess What when that happens we loose all or our Rights under the constitution that you don't even know about. It is called Communism! AND EVERYTIME COMMUNISM TAKES OVER A COUNTRY THERE IS MASSIVE DEATH. EVERYTIME. JUST GOOGLE IT."

I agree it's not most of your readers. But even when it's only ~10% of commenters talking like that, that still feels like way too many. If I was in a social group where 10% of people talked like that, I'd be looking for a different group.

This is not in any way a reflection on your story - from the comments I read, it might well be something I'd enjoy when I have the time.

 

[PastMaster]

I agree it's not most of your readers. But even when it's only ~10% of commenters talking like that, that still feels like way too many. If I was in a social group where 10% of people talked like that, I'd be looking for a different group.

The thing with LW is that it gets readers - My stories in LW get many more readers and and many more comments than any of the other categories I write in. You need a thick skin - to allow the trolls bile to run off you, but if you can handle that - it is a category that gives you the biggest audience here.