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[KeithD]

Really? Does that happen here?



Em

For going on to a decade and a half, yes.

 

[alohadave]

Really? Does that happen here?



Em

Those two have a combative history. They are constantly sniping at each other.

 

[KeithD]

Those two have a combative history. They are constantly sniping at each other.

Correction. I only respond occasionally--and not always--to Lovecraft68's stalking. I don't have my nose up his butt initiating attacks on him as he does with me, nor do I snipe in threads he's started (or taken over). That's part of the hostility of this discussion board--that folks like you say this is two sided. It's not.

I'd like to see how you would handle a decade and a half of stalking. In fact, with so few posts, I sort of would like to know how you think you have a handle on this at all--unless you are playing an alt. Are you playing an alt, Dave?

 

[alohadave]

Correction. I only respond occasionally--and not always--to Lovecraft68's stalking. I don't have my nose up his butt initiating attacks on him as he does with me, nor do I snipe in threads he's started (or taken over). That's part of the hostility of this discussion board--that folks like you say this is two sided. It's not.

I'd like to see how you would handle a decade and a half of stalking. In fact, with only 38 posts, I sort of would like to know how you think you have a handle on this at all--unless you are playing an alt. Are you playing an alt, Dave?

First of all, I don't care about your feud.

Second, my post count is higher than 38, and that is not relevant to observing you two bicker here.

Third, the forum has an ignore feature that allows you to not see posts from people you can't stand.

I find it funny that your first instinct to assume I'm an alt account as a way to discount my comment.

 

[KeithD]

First of all, I don't care about your feud.

First, you felt compelled to post about a feud, so don't tell me you don't care in some way.

But, yeah, I misread the number of posts you have, which still isn't enough to weigh in on this, and I had already corrected that.

And I stand pat on this being Lovecraft68's stalking show and is only happening because he is conducting it and can go away when he stops stalking.

 

[Bramblethorn]

So I have published only a sixth of what you have (and avoid Loving Wives like the plague), but I agree that rating at least appears to be somewhat correlated to category.

My lowest score is in Romance (why I thought I could write Romance remains a mystery).

What would maybe make sense is to have ratings in category X, say Anal (now why did I pick that?), normalized to the average rating for that category. Then you could roll things up with greater confidence. I agree there are other factors, e.g. length of piece, but you’d get a more robust metric that way IMO.

Em

I think normalising by category would improve cross-category comparability of scores, and it wouldn't be hard to do. What I'm less certain of is how useful that is - what do we do with that information?

It can tell us that a 4.3 in LW is more impressive than a 4.4 in SF/F - okay, but I suspect most readers are choosing categories even before they look at scores, and anybody who reads a category for any length of time is likely to develop a feel for what a 4.3 means in that category.

It feels to me like the main point of these would be awarding "First Place", "Second Place" etc. trophies for the sake of awarding them and I'm not sure that's a useful thing to do. I'd be interested in it as a technical challenge, for the sake of the exercise, I'm just not sure if the product of that challenge improves things.

TLDR: what Simon wrote.

 

[alohadave]

First, you felt compelled to post about a feud, so don't tell me you don't care in some way.

But, yeah, I misread the number of posts you have, which still isn't enough to weigh in on this, and I had already corrected that.

And I stand pat on this being Lovecraft68's stalking show and is only happening because he is conducting it and can go away when he stops stalking.

You've got a real persecution complex going on. I commented to someone else about your feud, that implies no investment in your squabble.

When you are the moderator or owner of this site, you can ban or delete my account, until then you have no right to dictate what I am or am not allowed to post here.

I already had you on ignore because I find you insufferable, and this is just reinforcing that decision.

 

[KeithD]

You've got a real persecution complex going on. I commented to someone else about your feud, that implies no investment in your squabble.

When you are the moderator or owner of this site, you can ban or delete my account, until then you have no right to dictate what I am or am not allowed to post here.

I already had you on ignore because I find you insufferable, and this is just reinforcing that decision.

It's not a complex if it's happening--right out in the open.

Point out where I told you what you don't have a right to post. False persecution complex much?

You quite obviously don't have me effectively on ignore--nor did you hold off on posting to the issue, so you aren't anywhere near an "ignore" response on this, are you? I should care if you put me on ignore because . . . ?

 

[Blind_Justice]

@BobbyBrandt : Regarding versatility as a metric of quality... What's better? The author who has a narrow field of interests and writes them very well or someone able to tackle a wide field of topics but might turn away parts of his readership when straying too far afield?

I understand the latter choice is great for feeling satisfied as a writer and being able to avoid boredom/burnout, but what is a writer without readers? My forays into other categories than SF/F have been met with disinterest and lukewarm scores. Heck, even straying too far away from my main series did that... Are my other offerings that much worse? Or is it a case of my readership not being interested in that one particular thing?

I mean, I can relate to that notion. If my favorite Death Metal band suddenly starts to play J-Pop, I'd stop buying their shit, no matter how kawaii they'd sound. I want guts, gargeling and drop-tuned guitar shreds, not happy songs about fucking class-president-san...

 

[MillieDynamite]

I don't put people on igy. Though, I'm not involved in the conversation, just reading as a bystander. No particular opinion on this subject.

 

[8letters]

I think normalising by category would improve cross-category comparability of scores, and it wouldn't be hard to do.

It would be extremely hard to do. Let's look at Illustrated, I/T and Romance. When I pulled the statistics for those categories after a story had been on the site for a week, I got the following average ratings:
Illustrated - 3.36
Incest/Taboo - 4.34
Romance - 4.46

When I looked at just stand-alone stories:
Illustrated - 3.12
Incest/Taboo - 4.25
Romance - 4.33

When I look at the rating for the top story for those categories for the last twelve months, I find:
Illustrated - 4.67
Incest/Taboo - 4.86
Romance - 4.95

When I look at the rating for the #50 story for those categories for the last twelve months, I find:
Illustrated - 3.90
Incest/Taboo - 4.83
Romance - 4.87

So how are you going to normalize those three categories? How are you going to normalize stand-alone stories versus chapter stories?

Should the number of votes and favorites factor into this? Which is more impressive, having a 4.92 rating on 1142 votes and 61 favorites or having a 4.88 rating on 1299 votes and 106 favorites. I'd say the latter.

 

[EmilyMiller]

It would be extremely hard to do. Let's look at Illustrated, I/T and Romance. When I pulled the statistics for those categories after a story had been on the site for a week, I got the following average ratings:
Illustrated - 3.36
Incest/Taboo - 4.34
Romance - 4.46

When I looked at just stand-alone stories:
Illustrated - 3.12
Incest/Taboo - 4.25
Romance - 4.33

When I look at the rating for the top story for those categories for the last twelve months, I find:
Illustrated - 4.67
Incest/Taboo - 4.86
Romance - 4.95

When I look at the rating for the #50 story for those categories for the last twelve months, I find:
Illustrated - 3.90
Incest/Taboo - 4.83
Romance - 4.87

So how are you going to normalize those three categories? How are you going to normalize stand-alone stories versus chapter stories?

Should the number of votes and favorites factor into this? Which is more impressive, having a 4.92 rating on 1142 votes and 61 favorites or having a 4.88 rating on 1299 votes and 106 favorites. I'd say the latter.

I think you are over-thinking it, hun.

Em

 

[EmilyMiller]

For going on to a decade and a half, yes.

Sorry my sarcasm dial was malfunctioning .

Em

 

[theWollstonecraftWoman]

My rating as an author would be low, quite low.

 

[EmilyMiller]

Sorry my sarcasm dial was malfunctioning .

Em

I’ve been here months, but the hate is real.

Em

 

[theWollstonecraftWoman]

I’ve been here months, but the hate is real.

Em

Oh, hate is a bad thing. Hate wraps itself around a person, growing closer to them, until their skin is infested with it, their soul is rotted. Hate is like your favorite nighty, comfortable in an uncomfortable way. Or a favorite pair of jeans, form fitting, but cutting off your ability to breath. It fogs your brain, clouds your judgement. Hating is a thing that hurts the hator more than the hatey. Yeah, they aren't real words but you get my drift.

 

[KeithD]

Bottom line. It is and always has been under Lovecraft68's control. It will stop when and if he just stops it. Although I'm the one most heavily stalked, anyone who reads the discussion board can see him going after others as well. It's entirely up to him. It will stop plaguing the boards when he stops doing it.

 

[lovecraft68]

All I'm going to say here is if I have proved anything in my time here its I say whatever I want to whoever I want, publicly and under this name because its the only one I have.

The person running around assuming I sent him a shitty e-mail has a proven history of commenting on his own stories via alt, and was once caught bragging about one his stories here under another alt.

Keith has spent years here attacking everyone, then when they respond curling into a ball and playing victim. He couldn't run here fast enough to tell everyone who he was attacked. Bonus for attacking a poster here for simply making a comment about a feud and accusing him of being an alt(that's called irony) shows who the obsessed is and always has been.

Its okay, Keith. I understand you'll wither away and die if the forum wasn't all about you.

 

[EmilyMiller]

All I'm going to say here is if I have proved anything in my time here its I say whatever I want to whoever I want, publicly and under this name because its the only one I have.

The person running around assuming I sent him a shitty e-mail has a proven history of commenting on his own stories via alt, and was once caught bragging about one his stories here under another alt.

Keith has spent years here attacking everyone, then when they respond curling into a ball and playing victim. He couldn't run here fast enough to tell everyone who he was attacked. Bonus for attacking a poster here for simply making a comment about a feud and accusing him of being an alt(that's called irony) shows who the obsessed is and always has been.

Its okay, Keith. I understand you'll wither away and die if the forum wasn't all about you.

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I am so sorry that I got in the middle of this. It puts losers claiming I am really a pedo-guy (copyright E. Musk Esq.) into perspective.

Wm

 

[KeithD]

As I posted, Lovecraft68 is entirely in control on whether this continues. It's all him.

 

[lovecraft68]

I am so sorry that I got in the middle of this. It puts losers claiming I am really a pedo-guy (copyright E. Musk Esq.) into perspective.

Wm

No worries, unlike KD I'm not going to attack you for making a comment.

Pedo guy?

Man, I hate amateur trolls, where's the pride and creativity in their work?

 

[EmilyMiller]

No worries, unlike KD I'm not going to attack you for making a comment.

Pedo guy?

Man, I hate amateur trolls, where's the pride and creativity in their work?

Catfish is about the nicest thing that they call me.

Oh well.

Em

 

[MillieDynamite]

Like Switzerland, I chose neutrality and will not comment. I have no desire to be a part of the bickering one way or the tother.

 

[MillieDynamite]

Catfish is about the nicest thing that they call me.

Oh well.

Em

We fry catfish in my home.

 

[lovecraft68]

I'm going to walk off on this point about obsession.

Keith attacked Tadoverdon a while back(meaning she's pretty much like everyone else here) and she gave it back to him.

Keith then starts yapping at her that he saw he lost a fav, then went to her page and saw she infaved him. The fact he noticed a dropped fav is telling about how he hovers over numbers when he says they mean nothing because he demeans all the readers and writers on this site on a regular basis, but is always on top of them....then to run to her page to see if she dropped him?

Yeah, someone here is a stalker. Its not me. I'm a full frontal assault type. I leave skulking to the sock puppet warriors.