Donny Lied? Under Oath? In Writing?

[jaF0]

Judge: Eastman Must Release More Emails​

According to the court filing, some of the emails apparently show that Trump knowingly signed a document under oath certifying that inaccurate figures related to voter fraud were correct.

Kaia Hubbard
Oct. 19, 2022



Lock him UP!!!

 

[KeithD]

Trump's crimes have mounded up to go higher than the Washington Monument. It's time to lock him up and cut down on damage he continues to do, already.

 

[HisArpy]

They've got him now... again.

 

[AlexBailey]

They've got him now... again.

Would you hire on as Trump's defense attorney? You're definitely qualified.

 

[HisArpy]

Would you hire on as Trump's defense attorney? You're definitely qualified.

I'd even be YOUR defense attorney.

See, it's a requirement of the job description to defend the accused no matter what he's done. That doesn't mean the accused gets a winning defense or the "best" defense. It means the accused gets representation during his legal battle to avoid being overrun and abused. This is to ensure that not only does the accused have his rights protected, all of YOUR rights are protected too.

 

[AlexBailey]

I'd even be YOUR defense attorney.

See, it's the nature of the job description to defend the accused no matter what he's done, to ensure that all of YOUR rights are protected too.

Okay, that’s good of you. I’ve known attorneys who share that belief.

Why do you suppose Trump is having such a hard time finding legal representation that will accept a subpoena for him?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...trump-subpoena-lawyer-january-6-b2207173.html

 

[HisArpy]

Okay, that’s good of you. I’ve known attorneys who share that belief.

Why do you suppose Trump is having such a hard time finding legal representation that will accept a subpoena for him?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...trump-subpoena-lawyer-january-6-b2207173.html

1. There's no requirement in the law that I accept any legal filing or sub P on behalf of my client merely because he's my client. If a client wishes to reserve that for himself, and the retainer reflects that limitation on his lawyers representation of him, then the client must be served personally and not through his legal counsel.

2. Trump has issues retaining legal counsel because he hires diplomas instead of lawyers. It's a common failing where people believe that a Harvard law degree (or whatever other flavor of sheepskin you prefer) is better than other colleges. It doesn't work that way in reality because it's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog that matters.

 

[AlexBailey]

1. There's no requirement in the law that I accept any legal filing or sub P on behalf of my client merely because he's my client. If a client wishes to reserve that for himself, and the retainer reflects that limitation on his lawyers representation of him, then the client must be served personally and not through his legal counsel.

2. Trump has issues retaining legal counsel because he hires diplomas instead of lawyers. It's a common failing where people believe that a Harvard law degree (or whatever other flavor of sheepskin you prefer) is better than other colleges. It's doesn't work that way because it's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog that matters.

Fair enough, do you think there is any truth to the reports that he often fails to pay his representation, or that he fails to heed his attorneys advice?

How would you work with such a client who is embroiled in such time consuming and contentious matters, both criminal and civil?

 

[HisArpy]

Fair enough, do you think there is any truth to the reports that he often fails to pay his representation, or that he fails to heed his attorneys advice?

How would you work with such a client who is embroiled in such time consuming and contentious matters, both criminal and civil?

I think that powerful men tend to do whatever they do that makes them powerful and that their lawyers tear their hair out when their clients don't understand the nuances of the legal world.

A lawyer cannot "tell" his client what to do. Inside the lawyer/client relationship the lawyer isn't the most important, or even the most critical, part. Thus we work with what we have to the best of our abilities. I don't see much courage in the lawyers Trump hires. Lots of accolades, and claimed wins, but when push comes to shove they all seem to immediately shove off. When you're hired to fight but immediately run away at the 1st sign of trouble, it's not the client whose character is lacking.

I've had clients who are seriously mentally ill. The mentally ill are difficult to work with because they tell you 1 thing and then deny they said it. And then they'll go off and do something else that no one likes and deny that too. It's frustrating to say the least. OTOH, a lawyer who won't stick around and do what he was hired to do when things get tough isn't much of a lawyer no matter what college name is on the diploma he has on the wall.

When it's all said and done, Trump's legal issues aren't really because of anything he's done. He's probably no more dishonest than the next guy but, because of cancel culture, a certain segment of the world wants to take him down and is willing to use the courts as a weapon to do it. This is shown by the sheer number of claims that have been made against him, all of which so far have yet to produce a verdict against Trump, and yet the same type of claims continue to be made.

I would gladly represent him to the best of my abilities but there are certain problems that would hinder that representation. The largest of which is that part of the segment of society which wishes him harm is ensconced in the courtrooms where his cases are brought for adjudication. From what I can see there is no jurisdiction where he will get a fair, neutral, and unbiased day in court.

And that's not his fault, it's yours and every other progressive who hates him and is willing to persecute him merely because of that hatred. Nor can you say that you're not responsible because you're not involved. Evil triumphs when good men stand aside and do nothing. Using the legal system to achieve evil requires all of us to step up and stand against it.

 

[KeithD]

Anyone who still thinks Donald Trump isn't a congenital liar is a blithering idiot, themselves a congenital liar, or, most likely, both--like he is.

 

[AlexBailey]

I think that powerful men tend to do whatever they do that makes them powerful and that their lawyers tear their hair out when their clients don't understand the nuances of the legal world.

A lawyer cannot "tell" his client what to do. Inside the lawyer/client relationship the lawyer isn't the most important, or even the most critical, part. Thus we work with what we have to the best of our abilities. I don't see much courage in the lawyers Trump hires. Lots of accolades, and claimed wins, but when push comes to shove they all seem to immediately shove off. When you're hired to fight but immediately run away at the 1st sign of trouble, it's not the client whose character is lacking.

I've had clients who are seriously mentally ill. The mentally ill are difficult to work with because they tell you 1 thing and then deny they said it. And then they'll go off and do something else that no one likes and deny that too. It's frustrating to say the least. OTOH, a lawyer who won't stick around and do what he was hired to do when things get tough isn't much of a lawyer no matter what college name is on the diploma he has on the wall.

When it's all said and done, Trump's legal issues aren't really because of anything he's done. He's probably no more dishonest than the next guy but, because of cancel culture, a certain segment of the world wants to take him down and is willing to use the courts as a weapon to do it. This is shown by the sheer number of claims that have been made against him, all of which so far have yet to produce a verdict against Trump, and yet the same type of claims continue to be made.

I would gladly represent him to the best of my abilities but there are certain problems that would hinder that representation. The largest of which is that part of the segment of society which wishes him harm is ensconced in the courtrooms where his cases are brought for adjudication. From what I can see there is no jurisdiction where he will get a fair, neutral, and unbiased day in court.

And that's not his fault, it's yours and every other progressive who hates him and is willing to persecute him merely because of that hatred. Nor can you say that you're not responsible because you're not involved. Evil triumphs when good men stand aside and do nothing. Using the legal system to achieve evil requires all of us to step up and stand against it.

I understand your legal perspective but not the way you excuse Trump for his many wrong doings.

As an attorney you must understand how he settles whenever he has a losing case and how his money allows him to litigate and delay to the point that his opponents are willing to accept settlements and sign nondisclosure agreements.

The case of Trump refusing to return classified documents and the J6 discovery that show emails where Trump pushed the big lie when he knew that the election results were valid are going to be interesting to watch.

 

[butters]

there's a difference between defending one's client to the full extent of the law and telling horrendous porkies because your client demands it

 

[HisArpy]

I understand your legal perspective but not the way you excuse Trump for his many wrong doings.

As an attorney you must understand how he settles whenever he has a losing case and how his money allows him to litigate and delay to the point that his opponents are willing to accept settlements and sign nondisclosure agreements.

The case of Trump refusing to return classified documents and the J6 discovery that show emails where Trump pushed the big lie when he knew that the election results were valid are going to be interesting to watch.

Settlements are a legal tool that's available to everyone, not just Trump using them to "dodge" responsibility.

Further, based on what you believe about settlements, there are few in the world who will measure up to your standard.

Lawsuits are like an unwanted train ride. At every stop along the way you want to try and get off the train. Settlements are just another stop on the rail line.

Cases in point, J6 begins with a proclamation of an insurrection before the evidence was examined. The documents at Mar A Lago were placed into a locked room there at the request of the government. In neither instance are the facts being told as they truly are. Rather the story begins with hyperbole and omission by those who believe in guilt before proof. Yet if Trump attempts to use the tools available to him under the law, those who accuse point and claim that doing so is illegal, immoral, unethical, and only points to his guilt as he attempts to get off the train before it wrecks yet again.

But, you've got him now. Again, again.

 

[HisArpy]

there's a difference between defending one's client to the full extent of the law and telling horrendous porkies because your client demands it

Every case has 2 sides. One you agree with and one that's beyond belief.

No one here, or anywhere else for that matter, has to work very hard to discover your verdict about Trump regardless of the level of belief in the story being told by either side.

On the other hand, Trump has yet to be convicted of any of the misdeeds he's been beleaguered with. Based on that track record, your side of the case seems to be the one telling "horrendous porkies."