Chaotic Coffee Klatch (tea also available)

[Strixaluco]

It really does.

I've had good bosses and bad bosses. The worst one, though, made me actually consider quitting my job, which I both love and could probably never get a comparable one, so that was the level of insane. For a long time I had an email folder called "Fucking Cunt" that all of her emails would sort into. But you know what happens in academia? It's really hard to get rid of people. So no one tells the truth about people, in hopes that they'll get a different job and move on. She's now being a fucking cunt as the dean of a different college; hope they're really enjoying her. And her fucking loser husband who we had to hire with her and turned out to be absolutely incompetent to teach, but we had to keep him for another two years after she left anyway.

Yeah still bitter.

Here there would be no way whatsoever the husbands would need to be hired in addition to her.

But hard to get rid of anybody, that's the same here.

 

[Mika1215]

On a lighter note, BOOBS!

https://myteenwebcam.com/fapp/gifs/89dd63a41ddf7c29a2dadf10ee759be9.gif

Ha, I find that actually painful to watch. My boobs are about that size, and that would hurt!

 

[Mika1215]

Here there would be no way whatsoever the husbands would need to be hired in addition to her.

But hard to get rid of anybody, that's the same here.

In academia (pretty much everywhere), it's pretty common to hire spouses if they fit in somewhere to sweeten the deal and get people to move. It makes sense in principle. But since letters of reference almost always lie about people they want to get rid of, it can lead to some awful things that are hard to correct.

 

[amanuk]

There are a bunch of studies that support this.

They make better leaders too.

 

[Strixaluco]

In academia (pretty much everywhere), it's pretty common to hire spouses if they fit in somewhere to sweeten the deal and get people to move. It makes sense in principle. But since letters of reference almost always lie about people they want to get rid of, it can lead to some awful things that are hard to correct.

Hiring spouses doesn't apply here. As universities are public institutes, they have to go by the public rules and spouses need to apply just like anybody else.

 

[Diosax]

Yeah, she was, but this was more of a dumb and dumber thing than a black/white thing, really.

Here

yes, but in fairness, Florida, and no complaining witnesses. if you have nothing to present at trial, you make the plea, otherwise you lose at trial.

I wasn't trying to start a white v. BIPOC thing. It's just more of a BIPOC proverb to ask

But now that you brought it up if it would've been a Black woman NO WAY that would've fly! That's just what it is

 

[amanuk]

On a lighter note, BOOBS!

What on earth is she trying to do?

 

[Mika1215]

I wasn't trying to start a white v. BIPOC thing. It's just more of a BIPOC proverb to ask

But now that you brought it up if it would've been a Black woman NO WAY that would've fly! That's just what it is

Yeah, but you know what? I did a little bit of a search, and I'm not claiming that this is really the last word in correct statistics, but it is SUPER hard to find cases of BIPOC female teachers being sexually involved with students. Like I couldn't find any.

So in this case, I'm just going to say that common sense seems to break along racial lines.

 

[Joxlrg]

I am the boss
And everyone knows the goals of the company and all know their part in achieving that goal.. When a person/department get in the weeds.. The others instinctively help them out.. Great people and they are treated well.. No one needs a babysitter.. And no one needs an asshole hanging over their head..
Treat people well and they will respond in kind !!!

 

[cheekygirl75]

I am the boss
And everyone knows the goals of the company and all know their part in achieving that goal.. When a person/department get in the weeds.. The others instinctively help them out.. Great people and they are treated well.. No one needs a babysitter.. And no one needs an asshole hanging over their head..
Treat people well and they will respond in kind !!!

Are you hiring for any remote jobs, by any chance?

 

[Joxlrg]

Are you hiring for any remote jobs, by any chance?

I wish.. But no.

 

[Mika1215]

Hiring spouses doesn't apply here. As universities are public institutes, they have to go by the public rules and spouses need to apply just like anybody else.

I work for a public university. People do have to apply, regardless. But as long as you have the credentials on paper...and the credentials on paper often don't mean a lot...if they want you for whatever reason, they'll make it work. Credentials in academia are super subjective after a certain point.

(Like, in this particular case, nothing in this guy's credentials would indicate that he was a terrible teacher who didn't know the material, didn't prepare, didn't come to class a lot of the time, and gave everyone As so they wouldn't complain.)

 

[Strixaluco]

I wish.. But no.

Damn. I could have done with a working environment like that.

 

[hotoldrguy]

There seems to be a tremendous focus on work environment for a Friday

 

[Strixaluco]

I work for a public university. People do have to apply, regardless. But as long as you have the credentials on paper...and the credentials on paper often don't mean a lot...if they want you for whatever reason, they'll make it work. Credentials in academia are super subjective after a certain point.

(Like, in this particular case, nothing in this guy's credentials would indicate that he was a terrible teacher who didn't know the material, didn't prepare, didn't come to class a lot of the time, and gave everyone As so they wouldn't complain.)

Here if anybody got a whim that being a spouse of someone had something to do with the person being hired, it would be relatively easy to get the hiring process canceled - and anybody else applying for the same job would have the interest in filing a complaint. Basically any job in a university that isn't just on some project funding must be held open, so...
And I think here the student union WOULD complain about a teacher like that, if he was chosen. We had at least one case when I was studying, when the student union picked up one bad teacher, and the university had to make something about it. Don't remember the results as it wasn't in my faculty.

 

[Strixaluco]

Just made a home test. Not really thinking this is covid, more likely asthma just still being mad, but...

 

[Cotswolds]

There seems to be a tremendous focus on work environment for a Friday

Too right, I've got a beer in my hand. What about tits/ass/cock talk, you know, intellectual stuff

 

[Joxlrg]

Just made a home test. Not really thinking this is covid, more likely asthma just still being mad, but...

Get Better Strix

 

[Justadesperatewifeandmom]

Yeah, but you know what? I did a little bit of a search, and I'm not claiming that this is really the last word in correct statistics, but it is SUPER hard to find cases of BIPOC female teachers being sexually involved with students. Like I couldn't find any.

So in this case, I'm just going to say that common sense seems to break along racial lines.

We had one recently, they dropped the charges. Apparently our womens athletic department at the high school, was kicking it a little too closely with the seniors in the girls athletic teams. They charged several, but recently dropped all the charges, no complaining witnesses thing again, all they had were the text messages, and I guess they determined not enough to go to trial.

 

[Strixaluco]

Just made a home test. Not really thinking this is covid, more likely asthma just still being mad, but...

..and it's negative, as I expected

 

[Diosax]

I like my boss.

Me too! Both my supervisor and the ED.

Yeah, but you know what? I did a little bit of a search, and I'm not claiming that this is really the last word in correct statistics, but it is SUPER hard to find cases of BIPOC female teachers being sexually involved with students. Like I couldn't find any

Im not surprised at alll!

So in this case, I'm just going to say that common sense seems to break along racial lines.

I meant more along the lines that Black people receive more harsher sentences than White people for the same crime.

Just made a home test. Not really thinking this is covid, more likely asthma just still being mad, but...

Oh no hope is not. But just remember that home test take longer to detect when you're positive so even if it was negative you could test pos on a pcr :/ or the next day!

 

[JKL123]

I am amazed at this chaos thread. It has been up 4 days and already exceeds 100 pages. I rarely post on this thread as it moves so fast I get dizzy.

 

[Diosax]

I am amazed at this chaos thread. It has been up 4 days and already exceeds 100 pages. I rarely post on this thread as it moves so fast I get dizzy.

Just jump in whenever!

 

[Mika1215]

Here if anybody got a whim that being a spouse of someone had something to do with the person being hired, it would be relatively easy to get the hiring process canceled - and anybody else applying for the same job would have the interest in filing a complaint. Basically any job in a university that isn't just on some project funding must be held open, so...
And I think here the student union WOULD complain about a teacher like that, if he was chosen. We had at least one case when I was studying, when the student union picked up one bad teacher, and the university had to make something about it. Don't remember the results as it wasn't in my faculty.

Yeah... this was kind of an odd case, because if it had been someone going through a normal hiring/tenure track thing, everything that you say above would be pretty much true, and he probably would not have been hired.

As it was, he was hired on contract as a lecturer, not tenure-track if that means anything to anyone. So to fire him, the university would have had to buy out his contract, probably, and might not have given my department a replacement, so the (totally cynical) decision that was made was to let him work out his contract, because having someone teach those classes was better, in the minds of some, than no one, as we were short on faculty. Students complained, but most didn't, because they were getting As in classes that would typically have been quite difficult.

And what I really care about is people actually learning things, so the whole thing made me furious constantly. Nice guy, horrifically bad teacher. And truly horrible wife.

 

[Mika1215]

I am amazed at this chaos thread. It has been up 4 days and already exceeds 100 pages. I rarely post on this thread as it moves so fast I get dizzy.

Trying to keep up is the mistake!

Just wander in and see what's going on.