Conservatives and libertarians don’t care about freedom.
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Individual rights from government or collective authority.
Liberals still do, it's kind of a requirement of being liberal.
That's Democrats, 'woke' leftist, they are not liberal by any stretch of the term.
Interesting.
I certainly place more value on some freedoms over others, but I don't think I could say only one was really important to me as I value a variety of freedoms.
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Why would I do that when you are right?
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Conservatives and libertarians are just heartless monsters right now. Like 80's cartoon villians where nobody even knows why Gargamel wanted to eat smurfs. Dr. Claw clearly has enough resources. Which means he and the Inspector are probably "frienemies" if he wanted Gadget dead he go after Gadger FIRST and then do whatever crime stuff he wanted to do.
Well for me personally and we've seen it in Europe and Japan that getting "free stuff" frees up resources to have upward mobility. Rick Santorum one of the relatively few Republicans that I do respect. His politics are a bit toxic but when the 2008 went out and cried on the Senate floor that this was not the time fuck around and find out. Fuck the deficit do what you need to. And the election after that his speech was basically that the American Dream is dead, Europeans have greater upward mobility than we do. Which was impressive.
Nobody ever said you can't critize black people. Those of us who have a working knowledge of history and current events know you're basically telling us 'yeah we fucked you until at least the eighties and in many ways still do. You think Flint would STILL be fucked up what are we at six years later if it was a white community? You can't expect people who are still being actively harmed by the government to catch up until we start fixing shit.
Well for me personally and we've seen it in Europe and Japan that getting "free stuff" frees up resources to have upward mobility. Rick Santorum one of the relatively few Republicans that I do respect. His politics are a bit toxic but when the 2008 went out and cried on the Senate floor that this was not the time fuck around and find out. Fuck the deficit do what you need to. And the election after that his speech was basically that the American Dream is dead, Europeans have greater upward mobility than we do. Which was impressive.
Nobody ever said you can't critize black people. Those of us who have a working knowledge of history and current events know you're basically telling us 'yeah we fucked you until at least the eighties and in many ways still do. You think Flint would STILL be fucked up what are we at six years later if it was a white community? You can't expect people who are still being actively harmed by the government to catch up until we start fixing shit.
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I believe that every human being should have every freedom possible. Freedoms should end where they begin to infringe on the freedoms of others. I believe that you should be able to own things, and that what you own should not be taken from you. I believe that people should be allowed to trade things they own without a third party interfering in those transactions. I believe you should be free to think what you want, say what you want and live your life the way you see fit.
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The problem with that is that only counting homocides there are 8k in any given year who would say that that your right to just buy guns infringed on their right to live. Sorry that's handguns but people don't kill people with rifles or shotguns. So infringe is highly subjective. And its impossible to know in any given year how many police kill because someone may have had a gun. I know people like Dixie don't actually value life but I kinda got an addiction to my heart and brain remaining intact.
There lots of less dangerous things that I kinda don't want. Even if your cow is gonna stay in your yard I don't want to smell cow patties when I'm barbequing. I need sleep. Its terribly inconvient for me if people are blasting music between 10pm and 6am.
Very few people are interesting in stopping anybody from thinking. But if you call me nigger you best be above six feet tall and yolked like hell cus that's gonna turn into 'fuck around and find out' situation REALLY quick. Like nearly instantly.
I'm starting to believe that companies above a certain size should be put under similar restrictions as government is. Like I've seen the math if McDonalds employees could shoot they could defeat MOST of the armies on Earth. Its obscene. They can fire you for basically no reason. Like a coworker was shouting in my face and waving her arms around and somehow the silent black man got fired. Me just standing there is firable offense. So there should be avenues that the average person can afford to go back and fuck those fucking fuckers. As I think we'll see in November Disney has more clout than Florida. I mean Disney was in the right but that's not the point. Or the 08 recession where all three car companies and I don't know how many banks basically walked into Congress and said "If you don't save us everybody is fucked.
ANd having worked in a few factories and warehouses they weren't really bluffing. If all the warehouses had shut around the same time the local bars and restaurants would almost definitely have been fucked. A lot of the local shops would go down cus people without money don't buy cars. So on and so forth.
I think once a company gets to a place where they can walk into Congress or to their local government and make legit threats to the government they need to have SOME way of people checking them. I get it Dixie you hate government but I don't believe a company, Disney or otherwise should be sufficiently big that they can go to the government and essentially say "Know your role and shut your mouth! These are my demands, if they are not met I will personally burn this fucker down."
There lots of less dangerous things that I kinda don't want. Even if your cow is gonna stay in your yard I don't want to smell cow patties when I'm barbequing. I need sleep. Its terribly inconvient for me if people are blasting music between 10pm and 6am.
Very few people are interesting in stopping anybody from thinking. But if you call me nigger you best be above six feet tall and yolked like hell cus that's gonna turn into 'fuck around and find out' situation REALLY quick. Like nearly instantly.
I'm starting to believe that companies above a certain size should be put under similar restrictions as government is. Like I've seen the math if McDonalds employees could shoot they could defeat MOST of the armies on Earth. Its obscene. They can fire you for basically no reason. Like a coworker was shouting in my face and waving her arms around and somehow the silent black man got fired. Me just standing there is firable offense. So there should be avenues that the average person can afford to go back and fuck those fucking fuckers. As I think we'll see in November Disney has more clout than Florida. I mean Disney was in the right but that's not the point. Or the 08 recession where all three car companies and I don't know how many banks basically walked into Congress and said "If you don't save us everybody is fucked.
ANd having worked in a few factories and warehouses they weren't really bluffing. If all the warehouses had shut around the same time the local bars and restaurants would almost definitely have been fucked. A lot of the local shops would go down cus people without money don't buy cars. So on and so forth.
I think once a company gets to a place where they can walk into Congress or to their local government and make legit threats to the government they need to have SOME way of people checking them. I get it Dixie you hate government but I don't believe a company, Disney or otherwise should be sufficiently big that they can go to the government and essentially say "Know your role and shut your mouth! These are my demands, if they are not met I will personally burn this fucker down."
"This is what you say, this is what you do. This is what you say, this is what you do." The "woke" are jokes and they don't get their own joke.
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Freedom for rich people becomes power over others, and consequently less freedom for them. What do you think of an employer who requires a woman to have sex with him to keep her job? What do you think of a factory owner who pollutes the air and water around his factory?
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People disagreeing with woke leftist isn't really that evil.
Especially considering it's in place where woke leftist didn't win the democracy game.
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We aren't trying to eliminate civil rights.
Leftists are.
He's not... and you have nothing but your authoritarian control freak fee fees to support it.
Oh lookie.... leftist dishonestly conflating libertarianism with anarchism again because otherwise they might have to actually explain why freedom is so problematic for them.
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Got you stumped !!!!
Poor little Rotadom, soo much freedom lately it must be hard for you and the other authoritarian control freaks.
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Banning abortions is going to KILL people. We spent 20 years almost down to the day accomplishing nothing. Anything that will help the american people gets shut down. The constant attacks on the LGBT community. Yes it really is that evil.
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It's actually the opposite... abortions are killing people.
This is right up there with men getting pregnant.
??? Lefties gotta lefty.
Not getting the totalitarianism you desire isn't shutting down anything.
You can still abort kids up to age 10 in CA if you want.
You just have to stop telling other states where you LOST the democracy game how they have to live.... maybe un-fuck your own back yard before you try telling others how to manage theirs??? Nahhh that would be too right wing for you.
We pretty much gave the LGBT community and democrats whatever they wanted.
There haven't been any attacks on the LGBT community by the right wing.
It's really that made up and a fantasy.
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I suppose it was obvious.
Freedom to own property? We had a civil war over that one.
Wokeness is opposed to freedom? How then can we have liberty and justice for all?
What’s the opposite of wokeness anyway? Spam-loving?
I can believe that.
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