For Those Lefties Lying About The Arizona Election

[HisArpy]

No, the reason I'm not acknowledging it is because there is no evidence of it.

Everything else you posted is just nonsense.

But hey, you used complete sentences, so there's that.

Closing your eyes to what's going on doesn't mean there's no evidence. It means you're refusing to accept the evidence that SOMETHING went wrong in the 2020 elections.

Az's Senate audit shows it and complaining about the linked source's reliability doesn't alter the bottom line.

Wisconsin's audit of their election shows it too. Meanwhile the loonies are focused on the last sentence of the summary which only says that the results can't be changed while IGNORING the fact that the results are because SOMETHING WENT WRONG in the election.

Then there's the fact that some States which recognized that something went wrong and enacted laws to fix the problem were criticized by the Left for "enacting Jim Crow 2.0" rather than acknowledging that the States have the right, power, and obligation to prevent uncertainty in their elections. But rather than admitting even that truth, the Left decided to try to take over and Federalize State elections while allowing the same errors to continue and actually increase and spread to other States.

So, as it stands, you're ignorance is either because it's self inflicted or you're just too fucking stupid to get beyond the "Trump lost" bullshit narrative. You should work on fixing that because somewhere in there SOMETHING is obviously wrong.

 

[HisArpy]

You need to tell Cheeto that, then. Because it's his entire point.

Even Fox News cut his ass off the mic when he was going there the last time he was on.

You proudly bought that lame horse, Matlock. Not our fault you don't wanna ride it now.

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But, but TRUMP!!!!

 

[pecksniff]

Closing your eyes to what's going on doesn't mean there's no evidence. It means you're refusing to accept the evidence that SOMETHING went wrong in the 2020 elections.

See post #32.

 

[pecksniff]

Then there's the fact that some States which recognized that something went wrong and enacted laws to fix the problem

Not to fix any problem that exists. Those legislators do not care about "voter fraud" or "election integrity." Neither do you. Nobody who demands voter-ID laws really cares about those things. All you want is to erect hurdles that are statistically more difficult for poor people and POC to jump over. You can't get away with poll taxes or literacy tests or property qualifications any more, so that's what you've come up with.

 

[HisArpy]

What the Republicans need to do, is tailor their policies - and their candidates- towards winning over people so they will vote for them, and thereby, win elections legitimately.

Now, though, What they are doing instead is courting the extremists, and trying to game the system, and when they lose, cry "Fraud!" and try to overturn elections instead of trying to actually win them legitimately. This is not how a representative democratic government should work.

I watched Kim Reynolds (Iowa governor)'s speech following Biden's earlier tonight. Her views are center-right for sure, but unlike, say, Marjorie Taylor Greene or Trump, she is someone who I could see as being electable. I agreed with some of what she said, and disagreed with some of it. She is the kind of candidate the Repubs need to run- because she would likely beat Biden legitimately due to popular support, without trying to game the system.

I agree because at this point in time, each party is being controlled by extremists.

However, playing games with the WAY people are elected is just flat wrong. This includes jerrymandering as well as election processes which favor whichever party is in control at the time.

 

[HisArpy]

Not to fix any problem that exists. Those legislators do not care about "voter fraud" or "election integrity." Neither do you. Nobody who demands voter-ID laws really cares about those things. All you want is to erect hurdles that are statistically more difficult for poor people and POC to jump over. You can't get away with poll taxes or literacy tests or property qualifications any more, so that's what you've come up with.

Nice projection you got there...

 

[pecksniff]

I agree because at this point in time, each party is being controlled by extremists.

No, that's only the Pubs. On the Dem side, AOC and Sanders are about as extreme as it gets, and they're no extremists, and they don't control the party.

 

[pecksniff]

Nice projection you got there...

You know I'm right.

 

[HisArpy]

You know I'm right.

Sure, keep telling yourself that. One day you might realize how much you needed to believe it despite yourself.

 

[Rightguide]

Sure.

On the other hand, why should I spend my time refuting your links to not credible sites that spin, lie, omit and can't pass basic fact checks. Bring something a bit "right" or down the middle if you want to be taken seriously.

I don't care if you take me seriously or not. Your ignorance is on you. Why don't you do a "basic fact check" and prove the reported "facts" in the article wrong, or just shut up until you can?

The weak sauce is continuing to promote lies that have already been debunked.

Trump lost, get the fuck over it.

That isn't the point, is it?

 

[Rightguide]

It is a fact that you almost always use unreliable sources. It's more than fair to point that out.

Show me how and what makes this AZ source unreliable, or shut up.

 

[pecksniff]

Sure, keep telling yourself that. One day you might realize how much you needed to believe it despite yourself.

You know I'm right on every single point. There is no voter fraud, and none of the legislation Pubs are putting in place addresses any problem that actually exists, except that of poor people and POC voting.

 

[pecksniff]

That isn't the point, is it?

There isn't any other point, is there?

 

[ll74]

Show me how and what makes this AZ source unreliable, or shut up.

Election officials have provide rebuttal to Shiva's assertions. I provided the azmirror piece detailing this.

 

[jomar]

I don't care if you take me seriously or not. Your ignorance is on you. Why don't you do a "basic fact check" and prove the reported "facts" in the article wrong, or just shut up until you can

Since you're not getting it I'll spell it out. I don't want to waste my time refuting misrepresentations from low/no credibility sites - extreme right or left.

 

[phrodeau]

Where are the competent and sane lawyers on this? All I find are the other kind.

 

[pecksniff]

Where are the competent and sane lawyers on this? All I find are the other kind.

I'm competent and sane, at least by comparison to any other self-ID'd lawyer I've seen post on this board.

 

[zipman]

There isn't any other point, is there?

It's literally the point of the thread. It just shows how stupid rightguide is that he doesn't even realize it.

 

[zipman]

Closing your eyes to what's going on doesn't mean there's no evidence. It means you're refusing to accept the evidence that SOMETHING went wrong in the 2020 elections.

Az's Senate audit shows it and complaining about the linked source's reliability doesn't alter the bottom line.

Wisconsin's audit of their election shows it too. Meanwhile the loonies are focused on the last sentence of the summary which only says that the results can't be changed while IGNORING the fact that the results are because SOMETHING WENT WRONG in the election.

Then there's the fact that some States which recognized that something went wrong and enacted laws to fix the problem were criticized by the Left for "enacting Jim Crow 2.0" rather than acknowledging that the States have the right, power, and obligation to prevent uncertainty in their elections. But rather than admitting even that truth, the Left decided to try to take over and Federalize State elections while allowing the same errors to continue and actually increase and spread to other States.

So, as it stands, you're ignorance is either because it's self inflicted or you're just too fucking stupid to get beyond the "Trump lost" bullshit narrative. You should work on fixing that because somewhere in there SOMETHING is obviously wrong.

No it doesn't.

We've watched as lie after lie have been debunked.

There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud. None.

What there is evidence is is that Trump and his team tried to steal the election by having states submit fake electors loyal to him and there's evidence that Trump tried pressured multiple people to change the election results.

This are actual facts, not the debunked conspiracy theories you right wingers keep posting.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

But, but TRUMP!!!!

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[WillJ8787]

More speculative extrapolation based on incomplete information. Good try though...

All you're basically saying is that you want to end mail in voting.

It's not going away

Blahahahaha...he can't let it go, even after his own party confirmed a bigger win for Biden.

 

[ll74]

But, but TRUMP!!!!

Did you see what this thread was about? (Hint: it's about Trump)

 

[pecksniff]

Did you see what this thread was about? (Hint: it's about Trump)

Why can't they let it go?!

 

[BidudeinWi]

If you think Trump won the presidential election in 2020, then you are either living in an alternate universe, or a mental hospital.

Get a grip.

Seriously dude, just fucking stop already with that shit.

And AT BEST it proves exactly what I am talking about. Refusing to admit defeat like a fucking child, vs actually winning legitimately.

Hahahaha! And you have kids!!!

The cryass LibTards cried foul for four years when DJT butt fucked that miserable cunt. They threw EVERYTHING they had at Trump and NOTHING stuck. Now you claim, in the face of MASSIVE evidence of election fraud, that somehow BiDim got more legit votes than Trump. LOL! Ok. According to PMSNBC, CNN etc. Trump got 70 + million votes and BiDim got 81 million votes, dying an election with 133 million registered voters. You do the math if you’re capable but those numbers don’t square. “Nothing to see here” says PurpleNurple. Covid “vaccines” work! Right on, you pussy! Report me and fuck the hell off, shitstain!

 

[PaxNurgle]

Okay, fuckhead... Just to humor you, I fact checked you on this.
And of course you are full of crap as usual, as there were NOT "133 million registered voters." There are, first of all, 239 million eligible voters. OF those, approximately 159 million- roughly 66 percent- voted in the election in 2020. Not 133 million. 74 million went to Trump. 81 million went to Biden. Approximately 4 million went to people like Kanye West or Joe Mama or some minor third party candidate.

If you can actually read, here's the source below.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...resident-than-were-registered-u-s/4010087001/

NOW will you shut the fuck up with your Trump fairytale already?? He lost- accept it, and move on and maybe someday you can join the adults for grown-up discussion at the grown ups table.