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kim potter sentenced... a shot in the face

found guilty of both first and second degree murder:
The maximum sentence for first-degree manslaughter is 15 years and a $30,000 fine and for second-degree manslaughter -- 10 years and a $20,000 fine.
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the prosecution was lenient, asking for 7 years and 2 months imprisonment but–if the court was considering probation–at least 1 year inside and 10 years probation.

imo, she should have served at least 5 inside... just my opinion, of course, but the 16 months and a $1,000 fine? really? kids have been incarcerated for far longer just for being caught with weed on them.
 
Don't worry, I'm sure riots will ensue, for justice.

In three months. When it warms up enough to be properly incensed...
 
She still serves some time and will never be allowed to be a cop in the future. Is the punishment what I would liked to have seen? No. Is she remorseful? Yes. We have to focus on positives...a bad cop has been removed permanently. We start here and work towards fixing a broken system...both enforcement and judicial
 
Dribble said:
She still serves some time and will never be allowed to be a cop in the future. Is the punishment what I would liked to have seen? No. Is she remorseful? Yes. We have to focus on positives...a bad cop has been removed permanently. We start here and work towards fixing a broken system...both enforcement and judicial
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bad?

no! a mistake made

what part of the system is broken?
 
I think the result is fair. It's tough being a police officer, and this had all the markings of a tragic, in-the-heat-of-the-moment mistake that was caused by the behavior of the victim. I've done a lot of very stupid against-training reflexive actions myself and I'd give anyone who says they haven't/wouldn't a "yeah, right" knowing stare.

This case, like the Floyd one and so many others (not all, of course), began with the victim himself. Potter was serving an arrest warrant that he resisted.

Her life is ruined after twenty-six years of protecting the public with one heat-of-the-moment terrible mistake precipitated by resistance to a lawful arrest attempt.

There are legitimate examples of intentional police brutality. I don't think this one comes anywhere close to that.
 
KeithD said:
I think the result is fair. It's tough being a police officer, and this had all the markings of a tragic, in-the-heat-of-the-moment mistake that was caused by the behavior of the victim. I've done a lot of very stupid against-training reflexive actions myself and I'd give anyone who says they haven't/wouldn't a "yeah, right" knowing stare.

This case, like the Floyd one and so many others (not all, of course), began with the victim himself. Potter was serving an arrest warrant that he resisted.

Her life is ruined after twenty-six years of protecting the public with one heat-of-the-moment terrible mistake precipitated by resistance to a lawful arrest attempt.

There are legitimate examples of intentional police brutality. I don't think this one comes anywhere close to that.
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you see


when you get away from your Russia delusion

you are sane:)
 
AlterErgo said:
you see


when you get away from your Russia delusion

you are sane:)
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I call them--objectively--as I see them. I'm waiting for you to be sane about anything, but I know it isn't going to happen.

Donald Trump is/was an espionage asset of Vladmir Putin. He and his associates were up to their necks in Russian collusion. Some of them have been convicted of it. At some point Donald Trump will be too. There is absolutely nothing that Donald Trump has ever said or done that didn't reek of his being an espionage asset of Vladimir Putin.
 
KeithD said:
I think the result is fair. It's tough being a police officer, and this had all the markings of a tragic, in-the-heat-of-the-moment mistake that was caused by the behavior of the victim. I've done a lot of very stupid against-training reflexive actions myself and I'd give anyone who says they haven't/wouldn't a "yeah, right" knowing stare.

This case, like the Floyd one and so many others (not all, of course), began with the victim himself. Potter was serving an arrest warrant that he resisted.

Her life is ruined after twenty-six years of protecting the public with one heat-of-the-moment terrible mistake precipitated by resistance to a lawful arrest attempt.

There are legitimate examples of intentional police brutality. I don't think this one comes anywhere close to that.
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Congratulations on a fair assessment untarnished by a woke agenda.
 
KeithD said:
I call them--objectively--as I see them. I'm waiting for you to be sane about anything, but I know it isn't going to happen.

Donald Trump is/was an espionage asset of Vladmir Putin. He and his associates were up to their necks in Russian collusion. Some of them have been convicted of it. At some point Donald Trump will be too. There is absolutely nothing that Donald Trump has ever said or done that didn't reek of his being an espionage asset of Vladimir Putin.
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Yes you do!




Name ONE thing Trump said or did that helped Russia and or Putin

No one was convicted for collusion.....NO ONE
 
AlterErgo said:
Yes you do!




Name ONE thing Trump said or did that helped Russia and or Putin

No one was convicted for collusion.....NO ONE
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Don't be ridiculous. I'm not playing your silly Russian game. You are pond scum.
 
KeithD said:
I think the result is fair. It's tough being a police officer, and this had all the markings of a tragic, in-the-heat-of-the-moment mistake that was caused by the behavior of the victim. I've done a lot of very stupid against-training reflexive actions myself and I'd give anyone who says they haven't/wouldn't a "yeah, right" knowing stare.

This case, like the Floyd one and so many others (not all, of course), began with the victim himself. Potter was serving an arrest warrant that he resisted.

Her life is ruined after twenty-six years of protecting the public with one heat-of-the-moment terrible mistake precipitated by resistance to a lawful arrest attempt.

There are legitimate examples of intentional police brutality. I don't think this one comes anywhere close to that.
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I concur.
 
Citation of the "Black Minnesota Cop" case, please, so we can see how the two case circumstances compare.
 
KeithD said:
I think the result is fair. It's tough being a police officer, and this had all the markings of a tragic, in-the-heat-of-the-moment mistake that was caused by the behavior of the victim. I've done a lot of very stupid against-training reflexive actions myself and I'd give anyone who says they haven't/wouldn't a "yeah, right" knowing stare.

This case, like the Floyd one and so many others (not all, of course), began with the victim himself. Potter was serving an arrest warrant that he resisted.

Her life is ruined after twenty-six years of protecting the public with one heat-of-the-moment terrible mistake precipitated by resistance to a lawful arrest attempt.

There are legitimate examples of intentional police brutality. I don't think this one comes anywhere close to that.
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Just playing devil's advocate here; but there IS the possibility that Kim Potter planned on using the "Taser" defense in a premeditated shooting.

You're a writer. Don't you think it's possible that Kim Potter (and other LEOs) have fantasized about how to get away with killing an unarmed person who is resisting arrest??? What better defense than "I mistook my handgun for my Taser in the heat of the moment", with the whole event caught on bodycam. Any LEO perpetrating such a premeditated shooting would know that their verbalizations of "Taser Taser Taser" would be caught on their body-cam, and that they would have built in plausible deniability. Factor in the animosity between LEOs and the Black community in Minnesota at the time of the shooting, and it isn't hard to imagine an angry amd frustrated LEO acting out such a premeditated shooting IRL. Again; just playing devil's advocate here.

Regardless: Ultimately it comes down to the sentencing; and 16 months for such a heinous "blunder" from a veteran LEO seems insufficient when the typical sentence is 7 years. Then again, any conviction is progress I guess.
 
Lazaran said:
Just playing devil's advocate here; but there IS the possibility that Kim Potter planned on using the "Taser" defense in a premeditated shooting.

You're a writer. Don't you think it's possible that Kim Potter (and other LEOs) have fantasized about how to get away with killing an unarmed person who is resisting arrest??? What better defense than "I mistook my handgun for my Taser in the heat of the moment", with the whole event caught on bodycam. Any LEO perpetrating such a premeditated shooting would know that their verbalizations of "Taser Taser Taser" would be caught on their body-cam, and that they would have built in plausible deniability. Factor in the animosity between LEOs and the Black community in Minnesota at the time of the shooting, and it isn't hard to imagine an angry amd frustrated LEO acting out such a premeditated shooting IRL. Again; just playing devil's advocate here.

Regardless: Ultimately it comes down to the sentencing; and 16 months for such a heinous "blunder" from a veteran LEO seems insufficient when the typical sentence is 7 years. Then again, any conviction is progress I guess.
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That's quite a stretch for a scenario. Sort of like starting with the outcome you want and working your way back through fantasy land to make it work for you.

Did you see the evidence of that in her background? It isn't something that just pops out one day in twenty-six-years of service when someone you have an arrest warrant for decides "not today."

What I think is that maybe you should examine your motivation for coming up with that scenario.

Some of these guys folks are lionizing have been thugs in the middle of a crime of their own choosing.
 
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KeithD said:
I think the result is fair. It's tough being a police officer, and this had all the markings of a tragic, in-the-heat-of-the-moment mistake that was caused by the behavior of the victim. I've done a lot of very stupid against-training reflexive actions myself and I'd give anyone who says they haven't/wouldn't a "yeah, right" knowing stare.

This case, like the Floyd one and so many others (not all, of course), began with the victim himself. Potter was serving an arrest warrant that he resisted.

Her life is ruined after twenty-six years of protecting the public with one heat-of-the-moment terrible mistake precipitated by resistance to a lawful arrest attempt.

There are legitimate examples of intentional police brutality. I don't think this one comes anywhere close to that.
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I can’t believe I’m agreeing with you, did you fall on head or suffering from some sort of head trauma?
 
KeithD said:
Yes, but google was also the friend--and responsibility--for the one introducing the issue.

I'll look at it later. We'll see how identical the cases were.
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It's a freaking NPR link. :rolleyes:
 
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