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Why is Liz Cheney a pariah in the GOP?

Dribble said:
Because she is honest. That is a trait Fascism hates
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I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that she is the last of the Bush neo-cons that had the party ripped from their grip. I am sure it has nothing to do with the fact that she sees this as their last chance at taking it back.
 
Obviously because she's 99% aligned and voting for their policies.
 
Cubantripod said:
I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that she is the last of the Bush neo-cons that had the party ripped from their grip. I am sure it has nothing to do with the fact that she sees this as their last chance at taking it back.
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What chance? Neoconservatism is a dead movement. PNAC shut down years ago.
 
She has balls. Which 99% of her male colleagues are lacking. Not that I think her political views on other subjects are worth shit.
 
Same reason McCain was.
Same reason Manchin is.
Same reason Sinema is.

In today's Congress, anyone that doesn't put Party first is an outcast. Party is more important than country.
 
BidudeinWi said:
No she doesn’t and she’s NO conservative. She’ll lose in the Primaries. Good riddance!
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So why does she support the GOP's policies over 98% of the time with her votes?

Are you saying that GOP policies aren't conservative?
 
pecksniff said:
Anti-Trump =/= Anti-GOP. Liz Cheney is certainly not anti-GOP. See the article linked in the OP.
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I didn't say anti-trump= anti-GOP.

She is though because she went to bat for the other side and that's a GG in todays politics. IDGAF about your article, it has little to nothing to do with the question in OP.

JohnnySavage said:
Same reason McCain was.
Same reason Manchin is.
Same reason Sinema is.

In today's Congress, anyone that doesn't put Party first is an outcast. Party is more important than country.
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Bingo.

It's a team sport, and if you go bat for the other team, you're fuckin' out.
 
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Other than opposing Joe Biden, what do national Republicans stand for?

It's supposed to be:

Lower taxes, the one glue that has held the party together for more than 40 years. There is universal opposition to Democrats' proposals to boost taxes on upper income Americans.
A smaller federal government, rein in spending. Despite the contradictions - the national debt rose by more than $7.7 trillion during the Donald Trump years - this is a staple of GOP orthodoxy.
Conservative on social issues, pro-life, anti-gun control, the self-styled party of "family values."
A robust national defense.
Less consensus on foreign policy with an exception: strong support for Israel.

One Republican who checks all these boxes is Liz Cheney, the congresswoman from Wyoming.

But she's a pariah to many conservative activists for one reason: She stood up to - and is demanding accountability from - Trump for spreading lies that the 2020 election was fraudulent and for his role in the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection, when a Trump-inspired mob violently attacked the U.S. Capitol to try to overturn an honest election.
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That's pretty much it.

Look, Pubs, Trump isn't going to be around forever. You need to start thinking -- and nobody is now, so far as I can see -- about which way you're going to go when he's gone. Will you persist on the insane path of Tea Party nationalist populism? Or go back to the Old Guard's heartless-but-rational pro-corporate agenda?
 
GothTalk said:
Exactly...98%..... it's not 100% is it??

2% of the time she's sucking the woke progressives off, and for that she can stay over there on her knees for the enemy where she belongs. :)

She's lucky, enemy sympathizers of the female variety used to get their heads shaved for their treason.
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If you're believing her percentage isn't high enough, then it's kinda dumb that you replace her on committees with someone who is much lower. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/elise-stefanik/ - 77%

Correction: I was wrong...it was 92% - https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/liz-cheney/
 
pecksniff said:
She does consistently stand for everything the party does.
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apart from speaking truth to power?

it's this as far as i can tell:

the gop need trump to win the mid-terms and gain control of the Senate and/or House of Representatives. Their base demands trump. AFTER they achieve that goal (which they may or may not), they will increasingly sideline trump for other faces, especially if the DOJ continues with its promised investigations into any and all criminal involvement.

They're banking on winning power Nov.22, then seeing trump's brand dirtied enough they can then have a new name up front; given all the current investigations of him, his companies and his family's involvement in shady shit from so many sources, it's likely they'll get their wish. Regular republicans are aghast at the violence they saw J6; hearing trump continue to blame pence for not overturning the election as trump wanted him to do and to also dangle the promise of pardons for the insurrectionists if he gets re-elected is too much for them to swallow. They might not vote Democrat in the next major election, but they'd withhold their vote for trump. Give them a different name and the gop will see them vote republican.
 
pecksniff said:
Wouldn't be for any reason so shameful and dishonest as her being anti-Trump, would it?
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She betrayed her constituents and her party, they are retaliating by showing her their backs. She collaborated with domestic enemies to undermine and frame the duly elected President. Like Hawthorne's Hester of old, she's been given her own "token of infamy" to bear for her "political" adultery.
 
JohnnySavage said:
Same reason McCain was.
Same reason Manchin is.
Same reason Sinema is.

In today's Congress, anyone that doesn't put Party first is an outcast. Party is more important than country.
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Just curious what was the key vote she screwed up? Cus Manchin and Sinema aren't pariahs because they don't have 100% perfect records. Its because when it mattered they didn't come through and didn't have a solid reason why either.
 
ll74 said:
If you're believing her percentage isn't high enough, then it's kinda dumb that you replace her on committees with someone who is much lower. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/elise-stefanik/ - 77%

Correction: I was wrong...it was 92% - https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/liz-cheney/
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Sure, whataboutism all you like, I never said I was a fan of the establishment GOP.

Give em the boot too!!! Replace them with a nationalist classical liberal/libertarians. :D

Sean Renaud said:
J Its because when it mattered they didn't come through and didn't have a solid reason why either.
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Exactly.... you don't play for the party when it matters don't be shocked when the party farts in your general direction.
 
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