Is The US Ready For An Invasion Of Eastern Europe?

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Would Joe Biden and the West be up to the task? It's an honest question because 100 million people could be separated from their freedom and many their lives.


Is the U.S. Ready for a Russian Invasion of Eastern Europe?
By JERRY HENDRIX
January 20, 2022 6:00 AM

The Baltic nations of Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia, along with Poland, Slovakia, Romania, and Bulgaria, are all watching Vladimir Putin’s military buildup in eastern Europe with great unease. Each of them was controlled by Russia during its previous incarnation as the Soviet Union, and none of them wishes to return to that subjugation. That’s why they originally sought membership in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, and have increased their own defense spending to meet, and in some cases surpass, the 2-percent-of-GDP goal that the alliance first agreed upon in 2014. NATO membership brings with it the guarantee of security that the U.S. has provided to Europe for 70 years, and with an aggressive Russia looming to the East, security is very much a concern.

There are, however, several problems with this calculation. First, the botched withdrawal of American forces from Afghanistan and the abandonment of American citizens and loyal allies there have dealt a significant blow to the U.S.’s credibility everywhere else. Second, the U.S. Army, the linchpin of security in Europe, largely returned to the United States years ago. Finally, due to Russia’s investments in anti-access area-denial weapons at its enclave in Kaliningrad, the U.S. Navy can no longer get Army units to Europe in time to blunt a Russian onslaught should one occur. Russia has amassed a force of over 100,000 troops along its border with Ukraine, including formations of heavy artillery, armored troop carriers, and main battle tanks. It has also already initiated cyber-attacks against critical infrastructure in Ukraine. If Russian forces should suddenly roll over Ukraine and then position themselves to threaten the Baltic nations, Poland, Romania, and Bulgaria, NATO will find it difficult to respond quickly.

As part of the European Defense Initiative, the U.S. has built a cache of pre-positioned ordnance, including enough equipment for an armored brigade, in Poland. The men needed to make use of that equipment and man the tanks and armored personnel carriers would be flown in from the United States at the first sign of trouble. Additionally, NATO has established a response-force brigade (5,000 personnel) and enhanced forward-presence battalions (400 personnel), but it must be admitted that these will serve as nothing more than a speed bump if Russia initiates a rolling start and then sprints across Ukraine, a nation that is just under 800 miles wide and possesses modern road and rail systems. Should they meet with minimal resistance, Russia’s armored forces, with adequate logistical support, could cross Ukraine and be on NATO’s doorstep in ten days or less. They would confront a NATO ill-prepared for the threat they posed.

Over the past 20 years, NATO nations have decreased their investments in mobile armor and artillery, by far the most expensive of the ground forces, and the United States has not only followed this path but also pulled its last permanently based armored unit out of Europe. The U.S. Army, which once fielded numerous armored divisions of up to 12,000 to 16,000 men each, now retains but one, although there are smaller armored brigade combat teams (BCTs) incorporated into the six standing infantry divisions and one mountain division that remain in the active force. The simple truth that few wish to reckon with is that, aside from air-power assets — the F-35 would most certainly get its baptism-by-fire against Russia’s fighters and its advanced S-400 missiles — under the best circumstances only one or two U.S. armored brigades would be available during the first 72 hours. Thus, only 10,000 men, some transported by air to join up with pre-positioned equipment and others previously assigned to the region as part of a rotational force, would be available to aid our European allies and blunt a rolling Russian assault.

Such an understanding emerges from an acknowledgement that armored units cannot be flown to Europe. The men, their equipment, and their vehicles are too heavy and must travel by sea. It would take a minimum of three days to onload tanks and other armored vehicles in the United States, whether in Texas or any of the available ports on the east coast. The ships that would carry them, purpose-designed roll-on/roll-off cargo vessels, would then take four to five days to cross an Atlantic Ocean that is no longer controlled by the United States and its NATO allies. Russia has spent ten years designing and building the new Severodvinsk class attack submarine. A derivative of Russia’s previous highly effective Akula and Alfa class fast-attack designs, the Severodvinsk has allowed Putin to challenge allied supremacy over, on, and under the Atlantic at the same time as NATO has divested of its own subs and submarine-hunting frigates.

More here:

https://www.19fortyfive.com/2022/01/the-georgia-model-russias-plan-for-invading-ukraine/
 
I think, at this point, the wisdom of Trump trying to strengthen our ties with Russia is indisputable. We see where vilification and antagonism are getting us.
 
I think, at this point, the wisdom of Trump trying to strengthen our ties with Russia is indisputable. We see where vilification and antagonism are getting us.

That's exactly right. The real enemy is China. One can wonder though if Biden and the West show weakness to the impending invasion of Ukraine will it embolden Putin and initiate a domino effect in the Baltics and elsewhere?
 
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How many times a day do you have to change your Depends???

Quite a few I would imaginre, judging by your terrified posts.

JFC

SAD!!!
 
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How many times a day do you have to change your Depends???

Quite a few I would imaginre, judging by your terrified posts.

JFC

SAD!!!

Who's terrified? Don't confuse being informed with fear, stupid.
 
You guys (L and R) are so creative.

You consistently manage to convert any world politics matter
into 'Trump versus Biden'.

:D
 
Europe is about overdue for a continental war. Ancient custom, they have to have one every few decades.
 
Think how the Russians feel.

In order to understand how the Russians feel about the extension of NATO to Eastern Europe, think about how we would feel if the Soviet Union still existed, if NATO ceased to exist, and if it was the United States that fell. With the political polarization in the United States and the rise in inflation and crime, it should be possible to imagine what the fall of the United States would look like. Imagine the division of the United States into two or more countries, with a declining economy and rising crime in each of them.

Now let us imagine the Soviet Union enlisting Latin American countries into the Warsaw Pact. Latin American countries remember and resent previous U.S. interventions in their countries. Mexico remembers that we conquered and annexed half of their country. How would we feel with Soviet tanks, jets, and maybe soldiers on the other side of the Rio Grande?
 
"Trump was a genius to cuddle up to Putin, who is also a very bad person who wants to take over Europe because Biden is old" is quite the contortion.
 
Also, does the scholar quoted in the first post think that Ukraine is between Russia and the Baltic countries? Because ... that isn't the case.
 
Would Joe Biden and the West be up to the task? It's an honest question because 100 million people could be separated from their freedom and many their lives.

Patriotism is commendable, but this "US is the greatest liberator" is ridiculous.
Eastern Europe came under Russian boots to start with, because of you guys:


"Roosevelt wanted Soviet participation in the newly formed United Nations and immediate support from the Soviets in fighting the ongoing war in the Pacific against Japan. Churchill argued for free and fair elections leading to democratic regimes in Central and Eastern Europe, especially Poland. Stalin, on the other hand, wanted Soviet “sphere of influence” in Central and Eastern Europe, starting with Poland, in order to provide the Soviet Union with a geopolitical buffer zone between it and the western capitalist world. Clearly there were some key conflicting interests that needed to be addressed."

https://europe.unc.edu/the-end-of-wwii-and-the-division-of-europe/
 
I think, at this point, the wisdom of Trump trying to strengthen our ties with Russia is indisputable. …

RightGuide says trump was tougher on Russia than any other president ever

I know trump wants that Moscow tower deal, but how does his toughest sanctions ever strengthen ties with Russia?
 
RightGuide says trump was tougher on Russia than any other president ever

I know trump wants that Moscow tower deal, but how does his toughest sanctions ever strengthen ties with Russia?

Pud has never thought through a single ignorant comment he makes.

JFC

SAD!!!

:D
 
On the one hand I think Putin has the sense not to want to occupy countries that will resent subordination to Russia, and which will be difficult to govern. On the other hand, I think he has legitimate security concerns. Russia is rich in natural resources, and has no natural borders. Russia will always be a tempting prize for a potential aggressor, and has been subjected to devastating invasions several times in the past.

I do not think any Western ruler is crazy enough to want to conquer parts of Russia, but as the ruler of Russia Putin has to think in terms of worst possible case scenarios.
 
Putin said that he's worried about the 40% of Russians living in Donbas, who voted separatism. Also about NATO's/EU's expansion of influence near Russia's doorstep.

What RG wrote in his OP sounds like one of those 1940's American TV adds.
 
On the one hand I think Putin has the sense not to want to occupy countries that will resent subordination to Russia, and which will be difficult to govern. On the other hand, I think he has legitimate security concerns. Russia is rich in natural resources, and has no natural borders. Russia will always be a tempting prize for a potential aggressor, and has been subjected to devastating invasions several times in the past.

I do not think any Western ruler is crazy enough to want to conquer parts of Russia, but as the ruler of Russia Putin has to think in terms of worst possible case scenarios.

He should worry more about Chinese designs on Siberia.
 
I think, at this point, the wisdom of Trump trying to strengthen our ties with Russia is indisputable. We see where vilification and antagonism are getting us.

Short answer to the original question is "no."
We're too busy with our uncivil woke wars...



Look, Uncle Joe gave them a pipeline, looks
the other way with the alliances with our avowed
enemies China and Iran who are willing to hack us,
infect us, lie to us, cheat us and genocide their own
populations. After all his bashing of Trump for his
"love affairs" with the bad guys of the world, he is
fucking wooing them and doing everything he can to
help them BUILD BACK BETTER!

:mad: *SP--itttt*
 
Putin said that he's worried about the 40% of Russians living in Donbas, who voted separatism. Also about NATO's/EU's expansion of influence near Russia's doorstep.

What RG wrote in his OP sounds like one of those 1940's American TV adds.

Countries want to join NATO because of Putin. The Baltic and Scandinavian states see Putin massing troops on their border, conducting cyber warfare on their systems, and spewing out disinformation about NATO aggression.

NATO doesn't expand because it wants to. It expands because countries neighbouring Russia are afraid that Russia will invade and they need the NATO alliance to help protect themselves.

Putin is creating his own demons.
 
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