"Cancel culture"?

[pecksniff]

When a RW has to cancel a campus speaking engagement because the students protest, that is an exercise of the students' 1A rights, not an infringement on the speaker's. Nothing in the Constitution guarantees you a receptive audience.

 

[WillJ8787]

When a RW has to cancel a campus speaking engagement because the students protest, that is an exercise of the students' 1A rights, not an infringement on the speaker's. Nothing in the Constitution guarantees you a receptive audience.

And nothing makes it mandatory that someone speaking is heard or listened to....and it does not apply anywhere except with interactions with the govt.

You have no free speech at:
the workplace
Outside walking around
In the supermarket
Even in your own home(wait for it...chuckles)

 

[LittleDixie]

Once again, the First Amendment has to do only with the government restricting your speech.

Secondly, the students were not protesting so that they didn't have to listen to the speech. They were protesting to prevent other people from listening to the speech.

 

[GothTalk]

When a RW has to cancel a campus speaking engagement because the students protest, that is an exercise of the students' 1A rights, not an infringement on the speaker's. Nothing in the Constitution guarantees you a receptive audience.

No need to cancel the engagement because of the protest.

There have been receptive audiences, the protestors are not the only students.

And nothing makes it mandatory that someone speaking is heard or listened to....

Tell that to your comrades the whiney SJW screaming for their safe places away from opinions they don't like.

 

[GothTalk]

Secondly, the students were not protesting so that they didn't have to listen to the speech. They were protesting to prevent other people from listening to the speech.

That little fact always seem to escape the authoritarian control freaks.

We know why.

 

[pecksniff]

https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/a/ae/free_speech.png

I can't remember where I heard this, but someone once said that defending a position by citing free speech is sort of the ultimate concession; you're saying that the most compelling thing you can say for your position is that it's not literally illegal to express.

 

[GothTalk]

https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/images/a/ae/free_speech.png

Yup, and none of that applies to someone like Ben Shapiro being run out of a public school by a mob of left wing terrorist.

I can't remember where I heard this, but someone once said that defending a position by citing free speech is sort of the ultimate concession; you're saying that the most compelling thing you can say for your position is that it's not literally illegal to express.

That person was no doubt trying to use violence/force to silence someone then.

Much like "progressive" scum bags the USA over.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Yup, and none of that applies to someone like Ben Shapiro being run out of a public school by a mob of left wing terrorist.

GoofTalk standin' tall with his redefinition of "free speech": "freedom of speech implies freedom from criticism".

Hurr Durr!

 

[GothTalk]

GoofTalk standin' tall with his redefinition of "free speech": "freedom of speech implies freedom from criticism".

Hurr Durr!

Ascription, Rob's specialty when he can't actually argue or make any points against what was said.

 

[LittleDixie]

Here's the thing.

No one should stop anyone from speaking. No one should silence anyone for their ideas. It is an injustice against your fellow human to decide what they can or cannot hear, and what ideas they are allowed to entertain.

We can look back to our past and find the protesters against our cherished beliefs of today. We can still find pictures of the protesters against de-segregation. We can still find video of people protesting Dr. King. Those opponents of civil rights would have said the same thing as the cartoon "Dr. Martin Luther King Jr, we just think you're an asshole and we're showing you the door."

If you were transported back to a time when howling mobs of white protesters tried to de-platform MLK Jr., would you simply say "This is okay, his rights aren't being violated. This is just people saying that no one has to listen to his bullshit.". OF COURSE YOU WOULDN'T. What about people protesting against Harvey Milk? Trying to get him shut down? You only see this argument as valid because you are on this side of it. If it was turned around on something you hold dear, you would rage against it.

 

[pecksniff]

Yup, and none of that applies to someone like Ben Shapiro being run out of a public school by a mob of left wing terrorist.

Don't see how it wouldn't.

Shapiro speaks at college campuses across the United States. In his speeches, he often presents a conservative viewpoint on controversial subjects. He spoke at 37 campuses between early 2016 and late 2017.[6]

Some students and faculty members at California State University, Los Angeles objected to a speech that Shapiro, who was then an editor at Breitbart News, was scheduled to hold at the university on February 25, 2016, titled "When Diversity Becomes a Problem". University president William Covino canceled the speech three days before it was to take place, with the intention of rescheduling it so that the event could feature various viewpoints on the subject of campus diversity. Covino ultimately reversed his decision, allowing the speech to go on as planned.[62][63] The day of the speech, student protesters formed human chains, blocking the doors to the event, and staging sit-in protests. When Shapiro began his speech, a protester pulled the fire alarm. After the speech ended, Shapiro was escorted out by campus police.[64] Young America's Foundation announced it was filing a lawsuit against the university (with Shapiro as one of the plaintiffs), claiming that the First and Fourteenth Amendment rights of the students were violated by Covino's attempted cancellation of the event, as well as the physical barricading of students from entering or leaving the event.[65]

In August 2016, DePaul University revoked an invitation for Shapiro to address students at the school and barred him from entering the campus due to "security concerns."[66]

On September 14, 2017, Shapiro gave a speech at the invitation of the University of California, Berkeley, student organization, Berkeley College Republicans, in which he criticized identity politics.[67][68] The event involved a large police presence which had been promised by Berkeley Chancellor Carol T. Christ in her August letter that supported free speech. Together, the university and the city of Berkeley spent $600,000 on police and security for the event, which transpired with nine arrests but no major incidents.[69][70][71]

 

[GothTalk]

Don't see how it wouldn't.

That's because you're anti-free speech as well as psychotically partisan and authoritarian.

 

[LittleDixie]

I'm guessing that this makes the problem with this attitude crystal clear.

Let me know if you still agree with xkcd after this.

https://images2.imgbox.com/b0/f7/vEEreWkN_o.gif

 

[Bud_Spencer]

I don't see the magic words at all so far: Security and insurance.

The leftwing facists know that these events have tocarry their own security and insurace. If they can threaten violence credibly enough, security costs overwhelm the speaker's ability to pay for it. Similarly, if the left's stormtroops make credible threatsof violence and destruction, insurers will hike premiums to pull coverage altogether, making the event nearly impossible to pull off.

 

[YDB95]

Tell that to your comrades the whiney SJW screaming for their safe places away from opinions they don't like.

While I do have reservations about safe spaces, they have nothing to do with public speakers.

 

[GothTalk]

While I do have reservations about safe spaces, they have nothing to do with public speakers.

Except the same group of people who demands safe spaces also threatens and often gets violent to shut down public speakers they don't like.

They are almost if not exclusively progressive lefties.

 

[WillJ8787]

No need to cancel the engagement because of the protest.

There have been receptive audiences, the protestors are not the only students.



Tell that to your comrades the whiney SJW screaming for their safe places away from opinions they don't like.

Lol ...it's a fact...no one has to listen to you in your home.
It only took you 5 minutes to respond...chuckles.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

I'm guessing that this makes the problem with this attitude crystal clear.

Let me know if you still agree with xkcd after this.

https://images2.imgbox.com/b0/f7/vEEreWkN_o.gif

Get that off stormfront, tranny boi?

 

[GothTalk]

Lol ...it's a fact...no one has to listen to you in your home.

And I never said otherwise.

Got any other random unrelated comments there smart guy???

It only took you 5 minutes to respond...chuckles.

And???



It only took you 4.

https://i.gifer.com/93Q.gif

 

[phrodeau]

I'm guessing that this makes the problem with this attitude crystal clear.

Let me know if you still agree with xkcd after this.

https://images2.imgbox.com/b0/f7/vEEreWkN_o.gif

That is how Martin Luther King Jr. was regarded during his lifetime, and he had to use the back door.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I'm guessing that this makes the problem with this attitude crystal clear.

Let me know if you still agree with xkcd after this.

https://images2.imgbox.com/b0/f7/vEEreWkN_o.gif

It doesn't change my opinion one bit.

 

[zipman]

Like canceling any discussion of the inherent racism clearly proven in our police and court systems?

Hypocrites.

 

[GothTalk]

Like canceling any discussion of the inherent racism clearly proven in our police and court systems?

Hypocrites.

Disagreeing with you isn't canceling anything you big ol' baby.

 

[Lazaran]

.
Emobo says E no-no.

Emobo loses.......again.

*nods* AND *chuckles*

 

[GothTalk]

.
Emobo says E no-no.

Emobo loses.......again.

*nods* AND *chuckles*

"NUH UHHHH!!!" is the very best laz has ever mustered.