New Record for quiting work in November... employers need to step up & pay up

[WillJ8787]

Source:
https://www.bostonherald.com/2022/01/04/record-4-5-million-americans-quit-their-jobs-in-november/

4.5 million quit in November....I hope employers get the message or they will continue to suffer the consequences of underpaying folks.

People don't quit jobs that are decent, pay liveable wages and encourage a quality of life.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I don't think the pay is the primary issue. I think right now with the latest spike in Corona that people are finally taking high notice that this is some serious shit. Not a 2% chance of dying IF you catch it.

 

[LittleDixie]

I support people's absolute right to quit their jobs if they are unhappy with their pay or benefits.

...just don't ask me to support you financially if you do.

 

[Lazaran]

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Most of those who quit reportedly quit for better paying jobs.

 

[LittleDixie]

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Most of those who quit reportedly quot for better payong jobs.

Then they are doing the right thing. Good moves on their part.

 

[innocntplay]

You guys are a hoot!

Is all you do is sit and watch the media all day?

I know of no one that left their job or retired early for better pay or because of underpayment.

We are leaving our jobs due to being forced into getting a shot that does not protect in any way.

Even more so, like me, because they are telling us we have to go work in an office that is less productive than the job we were able to do from home since covid locked us down.

To stop this 4.5million person practice in one month the government needs to scale back on the dollar faucet. It is not sustainable for the government to fund the economy and we are losing the greatest minds to the simplicity of not having to work.

So go ahead. Look away. Nothing to see here.

Little dixie is so cute innocently supporting the absolute right to quit their jobs because you are stupid.

Wake up people. Specially all you old farts that already retired supporting oBiden's inflationary tactic's and living off the rest of us. Your income is already fixed and you cannot control the other variables.

The rest of us taking the time to relax and enjoy while the destruction stew festers can go back to work if the time comes we need to. And I for one will also be doing that from home if I do decide I should work again.

 

[Cubantripod]

This makes no sense. People who had to take bad paying jobs because it was their only means to paying their bills are all of a sudden quitting those jobs.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Is all you do is sit and watch the media all day?

I know of no one that left their job or retired early for better pay or because of underpayment.

We are leaving our jobs due to being forced into getting a shot that does not protect in any way.

Even more so, like me, because they are telling us we have to go work in an office that is less productive than the job we were able to do from home since covid locked us down.

To stop this 4.5million person practice in one month the government needs to scale back on the dollar faucet. It is not sustainable for the government to fund the economy and we are losing the greatest minds to the simplicity of not having to work.

So go ahead. Look away. Nothing to see here.

Little dixie is so cute innocently supporting the absolute right to quit their jobs because you are stupid.

Wake up people. Specially all you old farts that already retired supporting oBiden's inflationary tactic's and living off the rest of us. Your income is already fixed and you cannot control the other variables.

The rest of us taking the time to relax and enjoy while the destruction stew festers can go back to work if the time comes we need to. And I for one will also be doing that from home if I do decide I should work again.

^^^anti vax moron lost his job. Lol

 

[Sean Renaud]

Too bad we didn't set up mandates like that from day fucking one.

 

[pecksniff]

We are leaving our jobs due to being forced into getting a shot that does not protect in any way.

Wrong.

And, in any case, there's no reason not to get it, is there?

 

[Sean Renaud]

Wrong.

And, in any case, there's no reason not to get it, is there?

Actually yes. Owning libs is the most important part of a conservatives life. If they have to choose between never seeing their children and grandchildren ever again and owning a lib there is no choice.

 

[innocntplay]

^^^anti vax moron lost his job. Lol

Topic is not the vaccine that does not vaccinate.

And I have my job. If I am forced to work in an office I will likely let it go. From home I am much more productive and do not spend the 3 to 5 hours and money commuting 60 miles round trip each day.

Didn’t you get shot dead?

 

[WillJ8787]

Wrong.

And, in any case, there's no reason not to get it, is there?

4.5 million votes that seem like they will go for Dems in the future since only Dems platform pay equity.

With 60plus percent of the public getting vaccinated and this new movement in the workplace towards pay fairness.... Republicans are in for a shocker.

 

[WillJ8787]

Actually yes. Owning libs is the most important part of a conservatives life. If they have to choose between never seeing their children and grandchildren ever again and owning a lib there is no choice.

...and you owned us good in 2020 didn't you. How about 2018? Chuckles!

Maybe you should reevaluate before it's too late for your party?

 

[Champakian]

Source:
https://www.bostonherald.com/2022/01/04/record-4-5-million-americans-quit-their-jobs-in-november/

4.5 million quit in November....I hope employers get the message or they will continue to suffer the consequences of underpaying folks.

People don't quit jobs that are decent, pay liveable wages and encourage a quality of life.

They'll continue the trend to robot labor.

I wonder if "wage-slaves" even understand this trend
in their relentless demands for more because of childish notions
such as prices for goods and services will not rise because the (evil)
employers will simply make up the wage increases with decreased profit margins.

So, you see, the demand for increased wages for workers will result in fewer jobs.

Then, what is your answer for that?
What good is it for you to earn a "living wage" when
that artificial inflation makes everything you purchase more expensive?

 

[Champakian]

Here's another aspect of expensive labor that needs to be considered,
most of big business in globally mobile and if given enough incentive
will simply relocate to countries/regions with lower labor costs.

So what good comes from having employees that make you uncompetitive?

How is it a good idea to pay a "living wage" that puts you out of business?

What do you do with all the displaced workers who are priced out of the labor market?

It's not just as simple as the good-intentioned desire that companies pay a living wage.

One more question, which company will prevail if they have identical products
and Company A prices its labor costs as a reflection of its selling price
while Company B sets its selling price as a refection of labor costs?

This is, indeed, a great example of a chaotic system with
the consumer, and not the employee, being the strange attractor.
To set the employee as the strange attractor reduces the consumer base.
Fewer consumers dictates that the need for employees will also be reduced...

 

[Dribble]

Here's another aspect of expensive labor that needs to be considered,
most of big business in globally mobile and if given enough incentive
will simply relocate to countries/regions with lower labor costs.

So what good comes from having employees that make you uncompetitive?

How is it a good idea to pay a "living wage" that puts you out of business?

What do you do with all the displaced workers who are priced out of the labor market?

It's not just as simple as the good-intentioned desire that companies pay a living wage.

One more question, which company will prevail if they have identical products
and Company A prices its labor costs as a reflection of its selling price
while Company B sets its selling price as a refection of labor costs?

This is, indeed, a great example of a chaotic system with
the consumer, and not the employee, being the strange attractor.
To set the employee as the strange attractor reduces the consumer base.
Fewer consumers dictates that the need for employees will also be reduced...

What proportion of business is small business? Hate to tell you....most of small business sales does not funnel into big cooperation. So try again.

If companies increased their wages to their employees...that cost is past on. Or it washes out in taxes. Why do they pay shit wages? To keep their employees from moving on....to keep them in poverty. This forces them to keep working where they are because they are living paycheck to paycheck

 

[Champakian]

passed

That's the word you want.

As I explained, wages paid are a function of sales and market share.

"Shit" wages is a subjective valuation. Employees are paid wages, not enslaved
for the enslaved cannot walk away from their employer.

If and only if an employer cannot find employees, then they will either
pay more,
robotize,
relocate
or go out of business

and those are the realities of every business and size is not a factor.

If you choose to pay more, then you will pay the price in reduced sales
which reduces the number of people that you can employ.

 

[WillJ8787]

It's both "scaleable" and possible to pay more at the bottom end of payroll.

The current inflation is mostly due to supply disruption from the covid shut downs of last year, not the current labor supply issues. Though, they will have a an affect if it continues.

The zero sum thinking that costs are always passed on to the consumer is an vulgar American way of thinking....in other places in the world, the Western world in particular, Executives are paid less and bottom rung employees are paid more....that is their zero sum.

It is an evolved way of thinking... Executives actually working for more than just their own bottom line.

 

[GothTalk]

It's both "scaleable" and possible to pay more at the bottom end of payroll.

It's possible, but if you force it, you're just inflating everyone's bottom line artificially and 2 million fucking dollars an hr won't get you anymore than 7.25/hr did last year.

The current inflation is mostly due to supply disruption from the covid shut downs of last year, not the current labor supply issues. Though, they will have a an affect if it continues.

That's only part of it, don't forget printing off a few trillion we didn't have and yes labor supply issues have contributed no matter how much your partisan fee fees want to deny it.

The zero sum thinking that costs are always passed on to the consumer is an vulgar American way of thinking.

It's also a fact. Consumers pay EVERY PENNY of a companies expenses, real or artificially incurred by the government.

...in other places in the world, the Western world in particular, Executives are paid less and bottom rung employees are paid more....that is their zero sum.

They have more wealth redistribution.

It is an evolved way of thinking... Executives actually working for more than just their own bottom line.

No, because government forced wealth redistribution isn't that. Everyone there is still working for their bottom line, they just don't get to keep as much of it as they would here in the USA.

And the thinking behind government forced wealth redistribution for the sake of equity is anything but evolved, it's basic AF, old, short sighted and largely a failure. Society does better when you don't saddle it with the burden of the worlds lazy losers who just want "free" shit.

 

[Dribble]

It's both "scaleable" and possible to pay more at the bottom end of payroll.

The current inflation is mostly due to supply disruption from the covid shut downs of last year, not the current labor supply issues. Though, they will have a an affect if it continues.

The zero sum thinking that costs are always passed on to the consumer is an vulgar American way of thinking....in other places in the world, the Western world in particular, Executives are paid less and bottom rung employees are paid more....that is their zero sum.

It is an evolved way of thinking... Executives actually working for more than just their own bottom line.

That isn't what I was inferring. But given the present mindset...the top end is way overpaid and they aren't gonna take a wage cut. So how else can increasing wages for the lower employees be accomplished? Pass it on...or write it off.

If a company has 10 employees...and they pay $5/ hr more...that is only 104,000 per year. Peanuts. If you are running a company and that makes a difference in your income....you are running a shitty company. Seriously. That isn't even my electrical cost. It is the same for even smaller companies....say it is you and one employee. Pay them $5/ hr more is only an increase of 10,400 per year. Seriously...peanuts.

 

[Sean Renaud]

...and you owned us good in 2020 didn't you. How about 2018? Chuckles!

Maybe you should reevaluate before it's too late for your party?

Ignoring that the Russians screwed us in 2020, shit happens. I don't even remember the outcome of 2018 cus I dont' care about midterms a whole lot.

At the end of the day however explain to me how electrion results have anything to do with not getting vaccinated so we can beat this thing?

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Topic is not the vaccine that does not vaccinate.

And I have my job. If I am forced to work in an office I will likely let it go. From home I am much more productive and do not spend the 3 to 5 hours and money commuting 60 miles round trip each day.

Didn’t you get shot dead?

The vaccines work, trumptard. You get your info from facebook like a typical moron.

 

[Rightguide]

This makes no sense. People who had to take bad paying jobs because it was their only means to paying their bills are all of a sudden quitting those jobs.

It can only make sense if Biden is paying them to stay home with cash benefits.

 

[kucked2x]

It can only make sense if Biden is paying them to stay home with cash benefits.

The extended benefits expired long ago. Most states, quitting merans a long wait for unemployment to start.


With the price of gas, cars etc....many people feel its not worth it, I can save money by not working at just staying home....