Ghislaine Maxwell, the scapegoat

[mayfly13]

Honestly.
You 'political' fucks annoy the hell out of me.

Every time I try to bring up the fact (which is on most people's mind)
that - yes, Maxwell/Epstein were criminals of the lowest kind and deserving of what's coming -
but at the same time they were either allowed, or programmed to exist

you all either accuse me of condoning two pedophiles, or of being a conspiracy theorist with low IQ. Or change the subject.

Why all this deflection?

 

[Lazaran]

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Who are you really; and what the fuck are you talking about???

I think your meds are off a bit.

Please talk to your psychoatrist.

No shame.

Be safe and sane.

 

[KeithD]

She wouldn't be the scapegoat if she revealed who else was involved. Epstein's dead, so he can't be scapegoated. There's only one other at the moment because she won't spill the beans. She's volunteering to be the scapegoat and that's on her--not anyone else.

Do, I don't see that you have a beef about any of this.

 

[ll74]

Someone involved in the shit is still shit

 

[rae121452]

Honestly.
You 'political' fucks annoy the hell out of me.

Every time I try to bring up the fact (which is on most people's mind)
that - yes, Maxwell/Epstein were criminals of the lowest kind and deserving of what's coming -
but at the same time they were either allowed, or programmed to exist

you all either accuse me of condoning two pedophiles, or of being a conspiracy theorist with low IQ. Or change the subject.

Why all this deflection?

i think i see what you're saying-that a lot of other people knew what was going on and either encouraged or took advantage of the situation. that doesn't make maxwell the scapegoat, though. she willingly participated and, seemingly, also encouraged him. it's like trying to make out myra hindley as a scapegoat.

 

[butters]

i think i see what you're saying-that a lot of other people knew what was going on and either encouraged or took advantage of the situation. that doesn't make maxwell the scapegoat, though. she willingly participated and, seemingly, also encouraged him. it's like trying to make out myra hindley as a scapegoat.

for. decades.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

The OP fucks goats, ergo the OP fucked Maxwell.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

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[LittleDixie]

Honestly.
You 'political' fucks annoy the hell out of me.

Every time I try to bring up the fact (which is on most people's mind)
that - yes, Maxwell/Epstein were criminals of the lowest kind and deserving of what's coming -
but at the same time they were either allowed, or programmed to exist

you all either accuse me of condoning two pedophiles, or of being a conspiracy theorist with low IQ. Or change the subject.

Why all this deflection?

I'm pretty sure that Epstein was an appendage of the US and Israeli intelligence agencies. Insulated with plausible deniability, of course, but definitely useful to get powerful people to have sex with kids on film and then make them a lifelong puppet.

In exchange for the valuable dirt, Epstein was protected by powerful people and whatever shenanigans he did with children was overlooked.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/2...liticians-for-israels-mossad-new-book-claims/

 

[mayfly13]

I'm pretty sure that Epstein was an appendage of the US and Israeli intelligence agencies. Insulated with plausible deniability, of course, but definitely useful to get powerful people to have sex with kids on film and then make them a lifelong puppet.

In exchange for the valuable dirt, Epstein was protected by powerful people and whatever shenanigans he did with children was overlooked.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/2...liticians-for-israels-mossad-new-book-claims/

Yes!! Or maybe even a double agent, once CIA or MI5 whatever started figuring out what they're doing.
The Acosta pardoning of an international paedophilia ring, despite FBI's efforts, and the fact that it took some nobody girls and their lawyers to shut it down 15 years later, was highly dubious.

Thank you! More, please.

This thread wasn't born out of attention-seeky instincts.
Massmedia's total silence on the elephant in the room (not even to refute the Intel theory, point by point, given that so many laypeople are suspicious) is kinda....

 

[mayfly13]

I'm dumbfounded that Americans and Brits. give so much benefit of the doubt to their agencies.

Honey traps have been used by all Intels forever, for national security purposes or otherwise.

You think that they would shy away from using underage girls who'd agree to participate?

When CIA, for example, performed experiments with toxic gases on poor Black communities.

 

[LittleDixie]

I'm dumbfounded that Americans and Brits. give so much benefit of the doubt to their agencies.

Honey traps have been used by all Intels forever, for national security purposes or otherwise.

You think that they would shy away from using underage girls who'd agree to participate?

When CIA, for example, performed experiments with toxic gases on poor Black communities.

Oh, absolutely. These people are those hyper fanatics who are the "get it done no matter what" type. The CIA helped import crack into the US, after all. They aren't the type to get tripped up in what is right or wrong or good or evil. Just achieve the objective and the ends justify the means.

I have no doubt that they would use children to ensnare important and powerful people. Show Bill Clinton a few images of him on a massage table and remind him just how young that girl looked... he'll bark like a dog if you told him to.

 

[pecksniff]

The CIA helped import crack into the US, after all.

Has that really been proven?

 

[LittleDixie]

Has that really been proven?

The government investigated the government.

Guess what their conclusion was.

 

[GothTalk]

I'm dumbfounded that Americans and Brits. give so much benefit of the doubt to their agencies.

Honey traps have been used by all Intels forever, for national security purposes or otherwise.

You think that they would shy away from using underage girls who'd agree to participate?

When CIA, for example, performed experiments with toxic gases on poor Black communities.

MK ultra was a conspiracy theory!!!

The US Government is pure altruism damn it!!! Governments never do bad things!!!

 

[mayfly13]

MK ultra was a conspiracy theory!!!

The US Government is pure altruism damn it!!! Governments never do bad things!!!

Which touches upon something I never quite understood.

Wikipedia says that intel/state-security protecting agencies like CIA/MI5-6 & report their activities to presidents.
(in this case, it makes sense why both L/R posters on this board are so evasive and defensive: Epstein happened mainly during Bush Jr's --see the 2006 Accosta trial-- and then under Obama's and Trump's)

But many talk about CIA as being this sort of secretive independent organization that acts without involving & informing presidents.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

When I look at what Maxwell and Epstein did, for as long as they did and with whom they did it, then look at how the government prosecuted them as they would walk on eggshells, it makes me think that there might be something to that QAnon conspiracy theory.

 

[Rotadom]

Rotflmao!

When I look at what Maxwell and Epstein did, for as long as they did and with whom they did it, then look at how the government prosecuted them as they would walk on eggshells, it makes me think that there might be something to that QAnon conspiracy theory.

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[Bud_Spencer]

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I'd add to my comment that maybe 20-25 years ago I read a book review in "Liberty" magazine about the topic. The author had made a name for himself debunking moral panics like the satanist craze of the 1980s and a couple of others, and looked into the rising concern about organized pedophilia and child sexual abuse, expecting to find the same: A nothingburger.

His conclusion: It's much worse than even those expressing concern know.

Yeah, QAnon was loopy and did some idiotic shit. But there's way too much of this getting found out and authorities - esp. federal authorities - are treading far too lightly given the seriousness of the crime. The Epstein/Maxwell case is an object lesson.

 

[Rotadom]

The Epstein/Maxwell case is an object lesson.

How did you get to that conclusion? Epstein was arrested and charged and Maxwell was found guilty on all counts. Oh, and Epstein was a teacher

 

[Rightguide]

I'd add to my comment that maybe 20-25 years ago I read a book review in "Liberty" magazine about the topic. The author had made a name for himself debunking moral panics like the satanist craze of the 1980s and a couple of others, and looked into the rising concern about organized pedophilia and child sexual abuse, expecting to find the same: A nothingburger.

His conclusion: It's much worse than even those expressing concern know.

Yeah, QAnon was loopy and did some idiotic shit. But there's way too much of this getting found out and authorities - esp. federal authorities - are treading far too lightly given the seriousness of the crime. The Epstein/Maxwell case is an object lesson.

The government is thoroughly corrupted to the point that everyone working in it has something on somebody else. Thus they tiptoe through the eggshells.

 

[Rotadom]

The government is thoroughly corrupted to the point that everyone working in it has something on somebody else. Thus they tiptoe through the eggshells.

Epstein and Maxwell were arrested under Trump's watch. Are you sure you want to stick with that theory now?

 

[Bud_Spencer]

How did you get to that conclusion? Epstein was arrested and charged and Maxwell was found guilty on all counts. Oh, and Epstein was a teacher

The first Epstein case resulted in a slap on the wrist. Nothing more. Epstein even got immunity in the deal. Only political pressure, supported by a numbr of the victims, saw federal charges brought years later. Then he was either murdered in jail or allowed to commit suicide. I personally think he was murdered, and there's more than enough evidence to support that conclusion.

Now his accomlice is prosecuted, but no names are named and the court records are sealed. Why?

 

[YDB95]

The first Epstein case resulted in a slap on the wrist. Nothing more.

Epstein was (on paper at least) incredibly rich. Does it surprise you that someone like that got off easy?

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Epstein was (on paper at least) incredibly rich. Does it surprise you that someone like that got off easy?

Given the charges, yes. But more importantly, he was plugged in and could name names, so I don't doubt many of those names leaned on prosecutors to go easy.