Classification conundrums

[Chaste_Down]

Hi all,

Half the comments on my first story are ones that say how much they liked it. And half are about the classification.

It's in the crossdressing / transgender ... bucket(?) because it's entirely concerned with that.

But it does contain elements of reluctance and brief non-consensual elements (not about sex but about when a chastity device does or doesn't come off). The story is on the soft edge of forced feminisation where it's closer to coaxed than forced.

But, many of the (9) comments are saying it should be in the non-consensual section.

I don't know if I can add a non-consensual tag to it, and whether that would move the story's section, but it does feel like a hammer to crack a nut if it does get moved. Suddenly it would be under a very different broad umbrella because of what's a much smaller element of the story. And anyone interested in chastity and feminisation would have to hunt for it amongst all manner of hard core non-consensuality.

Any thoughts?

 

[Bramblethorn]

There's no perfect solution for stories like this. If you put it in TG/CD some readers will complain about the NC aspects, and if you put it in NC some readers will complain about the TG/CD aspects. From what little I've seen, the NC readership isn't terribly friendly to stories where the victim is male.

When posting stories that intersect multiple Lit categories, I'll usually include a note at the start mentioning the different categories, to give readers a clearer idea what they're getting into.

You can also use the story tags to flag the other relevant categories, but currently the interface only shows tags on the last page, which is not very helpful.

 

[SimonDoom]

You can also use the story tags to flag the other relevant categories, but currently the interface only shows tags on the last page, which is not very helpful.

The tag icon is at the top of the column to the right of the story, at the beginning. Click on it and all the tags are visible.

If the author wants to do the most to avoid disgruntled readers and find the audience with the most appreciative readers, I'd probably put this one in T/C, insert "non-consent" as a tag, and add a short warning/disclaimer at the beginning of the story, something like "This story contains elements of non-consent."

It's not a perfect solution, and some readers will complain anyway, but you can't please everybody.

 

[Bramblethorn]

The tag icon is at the top of the column to the right of the story, at the beginning. Click on it and all the tags are visible.

Whoops, so it is. Missed that!

 

[Chaste_Down]

The tag icon is at the top of the column to the right of the story, at the beginning. Click on it and all the tags are visible.

If the author wants to do the most to avoid disgruntled readers and find the audience with the most appreciative readers, I'd probably put this one in T/C, insert "non-consent" as a tag, and add a short warning/disclaimer at the beginning of the story, something like "This story contains elements of non-consent."

It's not a perfect solution, and some readers will complain anyway, but you can't please everybody.

Can you add tags or edit the main text after publication? It's not obvious to me that I can...

 

[ElectricBlue]

Can you add tags or edit the main text after publication? It's not obvious to me that I can...

Yes, but you have to resubmit the story (same title plus EDIT) with the complete new text and up to ten tags. Edits take much longer to process (low priority for the site) - but don't change scores, comments.

Think about the effort involved to do a few minor changes, versus getting it right the first time. Is it worth the time? Probably not - and if the story is littered with typos, you didn't spend enough time in the first place, doing the edit.

 

[yukonnights]

I read a few pages of your story to get a better idea of what it is. The part I read is non-consensual, so I can see where some folks are coming from. I think that if it was my story, I'd opt for the edit and add the appropriate tag/tags and a brief heads up introduction to give fair warning to those who didn't look at the tags.

There's two things in play here; One is to warn future readers who are mildly irritated, the other is to address the few readers who may inadvertently stumble onto something that brings back bad memories. I guess a third reason is to get some of them off your back in both ratings and comments.

The edits can take some time — my last wait was about a week (but it was the holidays). But there's a good chance people will be reading your story for years to come (if you leave them here). Lit makes edits available so there's no taboo on using the option.

 

[Bramblethorn]

I read a few pages of your story to get a better idea of what it is. The part I read is non-consensual, so I can see where some folks are coming from. I think that if it was my story, I'd opt for the edit and add the appropriate tag/tags and a brief heads up introduction to give fair warning to those who didn't look at the tags.

Noting that the story is tagged "forced feminisation", which seems like an adequate warning of the NC elements to anybody who sees the tags.

 

[yukonnights]

Noting that the story is tagged "forced feminisation", which seems like an adequate warning of the NC elements to anybody who sees the tags.

I agree that 'forced feminization' should be enough of a heads up. I personally rarely open the tags, nor do I search with them — I suspect a good number of readers are the same . IMO, Chaste wrote a very well done story and based on the current rating the majority of those who read it agree. Those who commented that the story was non-con weren't wrong, they probably didn't check the tags or pay attention to the 'short description'. At this point, it's obvious that more readers liked it than not — even the ones commenting on the non-con issue praised the story as well written.

So, just another lesson in navigating the ins and outs of putting up stories here — I personally like to include a short Author's Introduction just to give a bit more of a hint about what to expect.

 

[Chaste_Down]

I read a few pages of your story to get a better idea of what it is. The part I read is non-consensual, so I can see where some folks are coming from. I think that if it was my story, I'd opt for the edit and add the appropriate tag/tags and a brief heads up introduction to give fair warning to those who didn't look at the tags.

There's two things in play here; One is to warn future readers who are mildly irritated, the other is to address the few readers who may inadvertently stumble onto something that brings back bad memories. I guess a third reason is to get some of them off your back in both ratings and comments.

The edits can take some time — my last wait was about a week (but it was the holidays). But there's a good chance people will be reading your story for years to come (if you leave them here). Lit makes edits available so there's no taboo on using the option.

I've not managed to find any edit option. Where would I find it?

& while we're on the finding things subject ... how do I put an icon image beside my posts?

 

[ElectricBlue]

I've not managed to find any edit option. Where would I find it?

& while we're on the finding things subject ... how do I put an icon image beside my posts?

You have to resubmit the edit as a new story, same title plus the word EDIT, add a Note to the Editor saying what you're doing. You need to resubmit the whole text, not just the changed bit. The site then removes the old text from the database, replaces it with the new. All metadata (scores, comments, etc...) remain as is.

Edits are low priority for the site, take 5 - 10 days (typically). Many authors don't bother, unless the original is so diabolically bad you shouldn't have submitted it in the first place - I reckon we've all got stories with typos. It's the smallest time interval on Lit, the microsecond between submitting and spotting the first typo.

Avatar - you need 100 forum posts, I think, and then the option appears.

 

[KeithD]

I think T & C is the best placement at Literotica for this. Choosing to write to a clash of Lit. categories comes with the realization that there's going to be some "wrong category" criticism no matter where you place it, but the choices then are to submit it here and take the heat or not submit it to Literotica at all. I think T & C is the most accepting category for this content.

 

[lovecraft68]

I would go with T/C. The heat you might take for some non consent-and it doesn't sound like strong non con anyway-is less heat than you'd take for putting transgender in Non con.

Keep in mind there's a faction in NC-not the entire readership of course-who are there because they hate women, dangling a transgender person in front of them could send them into apoplexy.