For Once, I Don't Disagree With A RightTurd

[jaF0]

Michael Savage Accuses Trump of 'Grave Error' on Prison Reform, Listening to Kim Kardashian

The far-right commentator described Kardashian, who has fought for prison reform, as "a waste of human DNA."


https://www.newsweek.com/michael-sa...rison-reform-listening-kim-kardashian-1663233

 

[Bud_Spencer]

I tend to agree. I think it's been a disaster.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

I tend to agree. I think it's been a disaster.

What makes you say it's been a disaster, Dud? Do you have specifics as to why it's a disaster?

 

[Bud_Spencer]

What makes you say it's been a disaster, Dud? Do you have specifics as to why it's a disaster?

The original promise was that only non-violent offenders who were near the ends of their sentences would be considered for early release. The reality is that both violent and non-violent alike have been freed, and not at the ends of their sentences. Since then I can recall reports of those being freed again victimizing the innocent.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

The original promise was that only non-violent offenders who were near the ends of their sentences would be considered for early release. The reality is that both violent and non-violent alike have been freed, and not at the ends of their sentences. Since then I can recall reports of those being freed again victimizing the innocent.

I've been reading the threads and it seems you have been doing this a lot today. You just say stuff and hope no one notices or doesn't challenge you.

 

[Pad_Foot]

Granted there have been some bad eggs
So?!
Take more care!
Thousands are sitting behind bars for minimal drug offenses or for copping to pleas because that was easier than getting a court to find them guilty
Got money?? Bail. Appeal the shit out of the system
It ain’t right!
And costs us millions
Do Americans need more imprisonments than other nations ??

 

[LukSkyFokker]

Why does it seem Conservatives are OK with wasting their taxpayer money on keeping minor drug and non-violent offenders in prison?

Oh yeah, it's because most of them are people of color and the Conservatives would rather pay for them to be out of their sight than let them have a chance to rehabilitate and be productive members of society.

 

[Pad_Foot]

Worse?
Why aren’t ALL rape kits in the nation not in a database so we can get ALL known rapists out away.. or castrated??

Money??

Fuck that

Take 100 billion from defense budget for one year!
100 billion goes into OUR economy!!

 

[Rightguide]

Michael Savage Accuses Trump of 'Grave Error' on Prison Reform, Listening to Kim Kardashian

The far-right commentator described Kardashian, who has fought for prison reform, as "a waste of human DNA."

He should have listened only if she was giving advice on the efficacy of Brazilian Butt Lifts or breast and lip augmentations.

 

[Rightguide]

Worse?
Why aren’t ALL rape kits in the nation not in a database so we can get ALL known rapists out away.. or castrated??

Money??

Fuck that

Take 100 billion from defense budget for one year!
100 billion goes into OUR economy!!

Just put them in prison and make them serve their time in general population instead of PC.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

I've been reading the threads and it seems you have been doing this a lot today. You just say stuff and hope no one notices or doesn't challenge you.

Challenge away, nancy-boy:

Over one-hundred sex offenders and violent criminals have been released from prison as a result of bipartisan legislation that lawmakers previously vowed would only affect inmates convicted of so-called “minor” drug offenses....

Despite lawmakers’ promises, only 960 of the 2,243 federal inmates released onto the streets were serving time for drug-related convictions.

One hundred six were serving prison time for robbery, 118 for burglary/larceny, 178 for fraud/extortion/bribery, and 496 for explosives and weapons-related offenses.

Two hundred thirty-nine offenders were serving sentences for sex offenses, 59 for aggravated assault/homicide, 46 were in prison on immigration-related charges, and nine offenders had been convicted of embezzlement/counterfeiting.

https://policetribune.com/first-ste...ent-criminals-instead-of-promised-drug-users/

 

[LukSkyFokker]

Challenge away, nancy-boy:

Bitch, please.

Over one-hundred sex offenders and violent criminals have been released from prison as a result of bipartisan legislation that lawmakers previously vowed would only affect inmates convicted of so-called “minor” drug offenses....

LMAO! Good job, Dud.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Bitch, please.

LMAO! Good job, Dud.

Not sure what point you think you made there. Are you hearing voices again?

No one, least of all I, made the argument that the FSA wasn't bipartisan. It was. It was still a bad idea. And the article confirms the central point I made: It wasn't just low-level drug cases that were released, but violent and sex crime perps, robbers, gun criminals, etc. that were also sprung.

That's not what we were sold prior to passage and signing.

 

[HisArpy]

Not sure what point you think you made there. Are you hearing voices again?

No one, least of all I, made the argument that the FSA wasn't bipartisan. It was. It was still a bad idea. And the article confirms the central point I made: It wasn't just low-level drug cases that were released, but violent and sex crime perps, robbers, gun criminals, etc. that were also sprung.

That's not what we were sold prior to passage and signing.

Somehow he thinks that because it's "bipartisan legislation" it means that "prison reform" wasn't a bad idea. Even though it's been shown to have been a very bad idea filled with lies and even more crime against society.

I keep wondering when people will learn that criminals are criminals and not pets to be coddled or used as a raison d'etre.

 

[pecksniff]

I'm sure nobody will deny we need sentencing reform. At present, we have a higher percentage of our population incarcerated than any other country including China -- and not because there is a higher disposition to criminal behavior in our population than any other.

 

[pecksniff]

I keep wondering when people will learn that criminals are criminals and not pets to be coddled or used as a raison d'etre.

Criminals are not a separate breed of humanity. They are simply people who made some bad choices.

We're all criminals, to some extent, at one time or another -- every tax cheat is a criminal, every drunk driver is a criminal, every nice middle-class kid who smokes pot or snorts coke is a criminal.

 

[HisArpy]

I'm sure nobody will deny we need sentencing reform. At present, we have a higher percentage of our population incarcerated than any other country including China -- and not because there is a higher disposition to criminal behavior in our population than any other.

You know what we really need?

Fewer criminals.

Let's stop glorifying criminals and crime instead of looking the other way and telling everyone that it'll be okay once the bad guy leaves to go victimize someone else.

 

[HisArpy]

Criminals are not a separate breed of humanity. They are simply people who made some bad choices.

We're all criminals, to some extent, at one time or another -- every tax cheat is a criminal, every drunk driver is a criminal, every nice middle-class kid who smokes pot or snorts coke is a criminal.

I can tell you've never been inside a jail or prison. If you had been, you'd not say those things.

You can advocate for justice, but you cannot say that, for the most part, those who've been incarcerated don't deserve everything they've gotten. From the DUI to the mass murderer, with very few exceptions they've ALL done something to break the law and be put behind bars.

 

[pecksniff]

I can tell you've never been inside a jail or prison. If you had been, you'd not say those things.

I do have a close friend in prison. I have often facilitated communication between her and her friends on the outside, whose lifestyle is not any different from hers -- and in my experience, they're all just people. They are poor and ignorant people, but they're just people, no worse morally than the population of any high-end suburb.

 

[pecksniff]

You know what we really need?

Fewer criminals.

We won't ever achieve that through mass incarceration.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

We won't ever achieve that through mass incarceration.

We solved that riddle in 1994...yes, we can. That's the one thing Joey Mushbrain apologized for that he definitely should not have.

 

[pecksniff]

We solved that riddle in 1994...yes, we can. That's the one thing Joey Mushbrain apologized for that he definitely should not have.

A solution far worse than the problem.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

A solution far worse than the problem.

Tell that to the thousands of people -mostly black men - alive because they their would-be killers were sitting harmless in prison. If you recall, it was black leaders who were crying out for that law, being sick of seeing their sons die at the hands of violent predators.

 

[pecksniff]

If you recall, it was black leaders who were crying out for that law . . .

No, I don't recall that. Cite?