Let's talk military budget

[pecksniff]

If you're all so concerned about what BBB might mean to the federal budget deficit, then how about some major cuts to the DoD's funding? In 2020, it was $714 billion -- 3.4% of GDP -- in a world where nobody constitutes a military threat to the home territory of the United States, short of nuclear escalation.

 

[Dribble]

For the price of one of those fancy fighter jets....one metal detector could be placed in every public school and each detector could be manned for 5 years. Choices.

 

[pecksniff]

Seriously, why does the U.S. need to spend more on defense than the next 10 or 11 biggest-spending nations combined?

 

[Sean Renaud]

The same reason men with tiny genitals have trucks you need a grappeling gun to get into.

 

[KeithD]

That would be the budget where Senator Manchin voted enormous money to this year--because the citizens of West Virginia are so invulnerable to foreign invasion?

 

[Pad_Foot]

And yet? The next war will be won my masses of cheaper arms and guerilla techniques Or.. cheap drones…
Our military ? Based on needs of the defense contractors and their politicians

 

[pecksniff]

"From whence shall we expect the approach of danger? Shall some trans-Atlantic military giant step the earth and crush us at a blow? Never. All the armies of Europe and Asia...could not by force take a drink from the Ohio River or make a track on the Blue Ridge in the trial of a thousand years."

-- Abraham Lincoln

 

[KeithD]

"From whence shall we expect the approach of danger? Shall some trans-Atlantic military giant step the earth and crush us at a blow? Never. All the armies of Europe and Asia...could not by force take a drink from the Ohio River or make a track on the Blue Ridge in the trial of a thousand years."

-- Abraham Lincoln

The reach of military weapons has extended a tad bit since Lincoln's time.

 

[GothTalk]

Seriously, why does the U.S. need to spend more on defense than the next 10 or 11 biggest-spending nations combined?

It doesn't, we assumed the role of world police, somewhere along the way forgot to send everyone else the bill and decided we would pay for it and 60 years later it's a whole other monster.


The US military should be cut back to our latest and greatest, our top shit units and toys, purely defensive.

We as a society/culture don't have it in us to run a Roman style empire.

If we did then our policy in the ME would have been something along the lines of " If so much as 1 bullet comes out of a village or neighborhood we just wipe it off the map, everyone dies, we strip mine the place to pay the cost of having to come "civilize" you fucking savages. "

Iraq and Afghanistan would have been over in in no more than 3 years and we would be building oil rigs and mines all over the place. Our scientist would be crawling all over the ancient ruins etc. FREE LAND!!! For all the American homesteaders who want a shot at America's latest and greatest territory.

Shit I would have stayed in Afghanistan.

But we aren't that kind of nation, so we can't really afford that kind of military.

 

[KeithD]

Shouldn't the withdrawal from Afghanistan have reduced the need for military spending and the size of the military force?

 

[GothTalk]

Shouldn't the withdrawal from Afghanistan have reduced the need for military spending and the size of the military force?

Yup. Considerably so.

Military campaigns on the other side of the planet aren't exactly cheap.

 

[Sean Renaud]

The reach of military weapons has extended a tad bit since Lincoln's time.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but unless Ironman is real and I don't know it none of our long range weapons drink or really leave tracks. And that's ignoring that Abe was wrong. Two front war would ahve worn us down and giving the "size" of the world in 19th century Europe taking the East and Asia the West wouldn't have caused an immediate conflict of interest.

 

[Dribble]

Lol...our gun loving Republican comrades can save our country if invaded

 

[Cubantripod]

Seriously, why does the U.S. need to spend more on defense than the next 10 or 11 biggest-spending nations combined?

Remember when Trump told our Nato allies pull out your checkbooks and you all said he was ruining alliances and helping Russia? Someone has to pay for it

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

The next defense spending bill will be called Build Back Better. Biden gets a win, Manchin is satisfied, and everybody wins.

 

[pecksniff]

No one has yet even tried to defend our present level of defense spending.

 

[Dribble]

No one has yet even tried to defend our present level of defense spending.

There is nothing to defend. Bin Laden proved he could bring us to our knees and create infighting destroying our Constitution.

 

[BidudeinWi]

If you're all so concerned about what BBB might mean to the federal budget deficit, then how about some major cuts to the DoD's funding? In 2020, it was $714 billion -- 3.4% of GDP -- in a world where nobody constitutes a military threat to the home territory of the United States, short of nuclear escalation.

It’s WAAAY over your head so perhaps STFU!

 

[The_Trouvere]

We spend more on our military than the next eight countries combined. Two of those eight countries are Russia and China. Nevertheless, the best financed and best equipped military in the world lost wars to the North Vietnamese Army and the Taliban.

The U.S. military is an expensive government spending program that does not work. There are two reasons we waste so much money on this boondoggle:

First, military contractors are major campaign contributors to the Republican Party.

Second, the military is the Republican jobs program.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Might as well cutit back a lot, our generals don't know how to use all that equipment anyway.

 

[Dribble]

It’s WAAAY over your head so perhaps STFU!

Thanks for proving you don't know either.

 

[LittleDixie]

If you're all so concerned about what BBB might mean to the federal budget deficit, then how about some major cuts to the DoD's funding? In 2020, it was $714 billion -- 3.4% of GDP -- in a world where nobody constitutes a military threat to the home territory of the United States, short of nuclear escalation.

Here here. I agree.

Cut that by 80% and return that tax money back to the people who paid it.

 

[Dribble]

Here here. I agree.

Cut that by 80% and return that tax money back to the people who paid it.

Then why do you support a Party that does the opposite? Confusing...

 

[LittleDixie]

Then why do you support a Party that does the opposite? Confusing...

Umm... Libertarians?

You are confused.

 

[Dribble]

Umm... Libertarians?

You are confused.

Lol....another Libertarian that doesn't vote Libertarian. No backbone. No balls. Thanks for playing