It's time to abolish women's sports

[Champakian]

This is the logical endgame to Feminism.

They aren't any fucking good.

Any guy who wants to "beautify" himself
can fucking dominate them...





I'll supply the fork.

 

[Champakian]

The only legitimate woman's sport shall now be beach volleyball.

 

[oggbashan]

...

Any guy who wants to "beautify" himself
can fucking dominate them...

...

Not 'any' guy. When I was young and fit, yes I could outlift any woman, even champions. But outrun them? No. I was too heavy, built like a tank, and as slow as a tank. In mixed cross country runs, I would be in the last third and at least half the women would have completed before I did.

Hammer throwing, caber tossing? I could outperform women. Javelin? No.

As for gymnastics? Not a chance. I was too inflexible.

 

[Champakian]

First off, we're speaking of the aggregate
and secondly, it was just having some fun.

 

[oggbashan]

First off, we're speaking of the aggregate
and secondly, it was just having some fun.

So am I. Once, when training for weightlifting in a gym, the woman beside me was trying for a personal best and failing. I picked up her heavy weighted bar with one hand and lifted her with the other...

 

[Champakian]

I have a very athletic body, even at this age,
but I cannot, for the life of me, outrun anyone
male or female, so I took up the martial arts
and the shooting arts. I now travel "heeled."

I was just never a runner.



(Double meaning; for the slow, not ogg)

 

[GothTalk]

Not 'any' guy. When I was young and fit, yes I could outlift any woman, even champions. But outrun them? No. I was too heavy, built like a tank, and as slow as a tank. In mixed cross country runs, I would be in the last third and at least half the women would have completed before I did.

Hammer throwing, caber tossing? I could outperform women. Javelin? No.

As for gymnastics? Not a chance. I was too inflexible.

Maybe you took the term wrong, 'any guy' meaning guys in general, not that any one single man can do all the things better. Obviously the weight lifter and marathon runner are different and a female runner could out run the male weight lifter.

But look at male weight lifters vs. female weight lifters and same with marathon runners. The females aren't even close. Male marathon record is 16 min faster...that's several kilometers ahead at that speed. An average male runner is competitive with the very best female runners. Sprinting of every sort? The gap is even more apparent. When it comes to running, women get absolutely fuckin' dusted at the top end of competition. And most high school boys can outlift the female lifting records, it's ridiculous how much more weight the male competitors can lift.

Running, swimming, throwing, jumping and lifting....testosterone is a very real performance enhancing drug that females can't overcome and can't compete in without having their own protected class from the people who grew up/trained with tens to over 100X (average, we're not even talking the freaks here) as much of it in their bodies as they did. There are a number of sports that without a womens division for females to compete in, there wouldn't be any women competing.

 

[Champakian]

Teenage males rely upon outrunning females...



Then again, females rely upon pretending to be "caught."


(Today is just my day for double meanings. I apologize, but I'm not sorry.)

 

[JohnnySavage]

How about:

Women's sports
Men's sports
All Other's sports

 

[GothTalk]

How about:

Women's sports
Men's sports
All Other's sports

Or just play their word games back at them.

Female sports and male sports.

That would make the divide along biological objective reality, not subjective self identity of 'gender'.

 

[oggbashan]

Only about the top 5% in a men's sport would outclass the best women.

But if you are a male who is good but not good enough to win outright, becoming a 'woman' would give you an advantage.

I was probably the best weightlifter in my town, but not in the running for best in the county and totally outclassed at the national level.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I have a very athletic body, even at this age,

You get winded walking to the mailbox, Chief.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Honestly if you are willing to cut off your dick and go through therapy to win at sports. Even an Olympic Medal or getting to be the person who makes American care about the WNBA power to you. I mean that's an insane sacrifice for something that is going to get you plenty of scorn.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

This is what AJ obsesses about before sun-up.

 

[GothTalk]

Only about the top 5% in a men's sport would outclass the best women.

Depends on the sport, as pointed out in marathons, sprints and weight lifting the margins are much larger than 5%.

 

[oggbashan]

Depends on the sport, as pointed out in marathons, sprints and weight lifting the margins are much larger than 50%.

True. But it doesn't change the position that a second-best male, if he becomes a 'woman' will be the best 'woman' in the chosen sport.

 

[GothTalk]

True. But it doesn't change the position that a second-best male, if he becomes a 'woman' will be the best 'woman' in the chosen sport.

Oh no, it almost guarantees there are going to be a bunch of males in front of the very best females in some sports. Again in particular those which are a straight up measure of sheer strength and or endurance. So much so they are effectively eliminated from the competition without a sex segregated division where females can compete with other female athletes.

This is why we have sex segregated sports, so that females have a chance to compete and participate in sports/athletics.

If we start letting males into the female leagues it defeats the purpose and we might as well just eliminate women's sports/leagues.

 

[oggbashan]

Oh no, it almost guarantees there are going to be a bunch of males in front of the very best females in some sports. So much so they are effectively eliminated from the competition without a sex segregated division where females can compete with other female athletes.

This is why we have sex segregated sports, so that females have a chance to compete and participate.

If we start letting males into the female leagues it defeats the purpose and we might as well just eliminate women's sports.

I agree. But some alphabet soup people are insisting that men who become women should be able to compete as women. That is nonsense.

Edited for PS: I am the nephew of a woman who campaigned for women's right to vote in the UK before 1914. She, as a property-owning woman over 30, voted in the first election at which women could vote.

I do not object to rights for gays, trans etc., but NOT at the expense of women's hard-won rights. I am the father of daughters and the grandfather of granddaughters. I do not want their rights diminished by giving rights to people who see their sex differently.

My youngest daughter campaigned hard for a football (soccer) club at her all-girls school. She won that battle but she wasn't a very good footballer. She went on to join an amateur team for adult women. She was usually on the substitutes bench for use only if desperate. If her school had been mixed and the soccer-playing had been mixed she would never have played a game. If her adult women's team had been mixed? She would never have played for them.

As it was because she was always there, she played about one-third of the matches. In a whole season, she scored two goals, but as a defender, she stopped eight from their opponents. She wasn't classed as a defender, striker, midfielder or anything. She was equally bad in any role, even as the goalkeeper. But because she was available when others weren't? She was there for her team doing her pathetic best and laughing at herself while enjoying the chance to play..

 

[Sean Renaud]

I agree. But some alphabet soup people are insisting that men who become women should be able to compete as women. That is nonsense.

I just don't see it as something that we should be worrying about. Even if we're just talking about the US get back to me when homelessness is under better control than it is now before you even think about eunichs dominating sports. IF this is your focus it really shows your character and priorities.

 

[GothTalk]

I agree. But some alphabet soup people are insisting that men who become women should be able to compete as women. That is nonsense.

And anyone who dares to disagree with them is a NAZI!!!! or some other equally unhinged from reality pejorative for anyone who disagrees with an SJW.

Which is as you say, nonsense.

I think when it comes to matters of social norms trans folks absolutely need to be treated equally under the law and I personally respect them so long as they don't give me a reason not to. Just like anyone else.

But they also need to realize the limitations of their situation... they are not actually female, so maybe growing up with, training and competing against them with 100X + the testosterone they had doesn't actually make you the fastest/strongest woman. Objectively they're a dude with a psychological disorder that feels like a champion for beating the crap out of a bunch of women and undermining all the achievements of all the female athletes achievements.

The kicker is some of them along with a bunch of SJW's will go totally fucking go nuts if you point out this obvious reality as though you were Hitler incarnate. These people need their social entitlement checked and told to shut the fuck up.

 

[Sean Renaud]

If you thought they should be treated as human you would have been right up there with the rest of the libtards supporting marriage rights and you'd be far more upset about violence done to the community than the handful who participate in sports of the other gender.

So yes, you are a bigot and if you weren't you wouldn't post the BS you do.

 

[oggbashan]

If you thought they should be treated as human you would have been right up there with the rest of the libtards supporting marriage rights and you'd be far more upset about violence done to the community than the handful who participate in sports of the other gender.

So yes, you are a bigot and if you weren't you wouldn't post the BS you do.

I accept that they are human, and should be treated as human. I do not object to their marriages or cohabiting. Why should I? It doesn't affect me.

But sports are different. People who were born male have an unfair advantage in women's sports. I do not think they should be allowed to compete as women.

Back in the day, Some "women" Olympic Athletes from East Germany and the USSR were very dubious "women".

 

[GothTalk]

I just don't see it as something that we should be worrying about. Even if we're just talking about the US get back to me when homelessness is under better control than it is now before you even think about eunichs dominating sports. IF this is your focus it really shows your character and priorities.

More than one issue can be an issue at a time.

Part of the greater overall cultural shift, this isn't the first and only time the left screams and demands objective reality, rationalism and logic all be dismissed for the sake of some poor poor minorities feewings.

These are the same crazies that accuse Dave Chappelle of white privilege and white supremacy because he said "real women don't have penises". And called J.K. Rowling a misogynist alt-reicher for saying men don't menstruate.

And that if you're a straight guy and won't fuck a T-girl you're a Nazi bigot white nationalist and RACIST!!!

Say it ain't so and they'll "Mostly peacefully protest" your life to the ground so shut the fuck up Nazi scum.

They're fucking nuts and the progressive left LOVES to give them the bullhorn/spotlight.

And the normies, even a lot of the more tolerant ones like myself are about fed the fuck up with the crazy bullshit.

 

[oggbashan]

It reminds me of the fierce controversy about motorsports in the 1930s UK.

Three-wheeled Morgan cars were classed as tricycles and competed against motorcycle combinations. But because of their wheel configuration, they were far more stable than motorcycle combinations and could corner much faster.

The result? Morgans won every motorcycle combination race.

Unfair! The motorcyclists complained. Eventually, Morgans competed in a class of their own and the motorcycle combinations could win again.

Perhaps there should be a separate category in sport for trans men?

 

[GothTalk]

If you thought they should be treated as human you would have been right up there with the rest of the libtards supporting marriage rights and you'd be far more upset about violence done to the community than the handful who participate in sports of the other gender.

I've always supported equal marriage rights, I even support polygamies of all sorts. People should be able to live however they want.

The violence done to the community has nothing to do with the sports and in no way justifies it one way or another.

So yes, you are a bigot and if you weren't you wouldn't post the BS you do.

What BS?? That males and females are physiologically different? That's not bigotry, that's a scientifically demonstrable FACT.

No I'm not a bigot, I'm just not a science and objective reality denier.