The Meadows connection...the gift that keeps on giving.

[WillJ8787]

Source:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2021/12/13/fox-ingraham-hannity-kilmeade-jan-6-trump-texts/

Fox anchors..... all communications directly with Meadows to get Trump to stop the Jan. 6th riot and insurrection.

The truth around this event is filled with sticky facts that can't be discarded or undone.

The question is, as it has always been from the day of this event....do we have the balls to put a President in jail for his illegal actions, the actions of a traitor to our system and way of life in the USA who attempted to undermine the Democratic electoral system?

Do we have the balls to set this precedent? The facts are clear...Trump and supporters are guilty....that isn't up for debate.

Do we set a new precedent that could be used against all political parties?

 

[Rightguide]

Democrats never uncover anything, they invent it and then gaslight dummies like you.

 

[jaF0]

The question is, as it has always been from the day of this event....do we have the balls to put a President in jail for his illegal actions, the actions of a traitor ...

Lock him up!!!

 

[HisArpy]

Lock him up!!!

The lack of intelligence on the part of some people is astounding.

The ONLY Constitutionally allowed punishment for a President who commits a crime in office is impeachment and removal. That's it. He can't be retried for the offense which got him impeached because of double jeopardy. He also can't be jailed because the ONLY Constitutionally authorized punishment is removal from office.

 

[Dribble]

Donald Trump is too fucking stupid to be the man in charge. That's the man I want to see charged with treason. Trump is a pawn

 

[HisArpy]

Source:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2021/12/13/fox-ingraham-hannity-kilmeade-jan-6-trump-texts/

Fox anchors..... all communications directly with Meadows to get Trump to stop the Jan. 6th riot and insurrection.

The truth around this event is filled with sticky facts that can't be discarded or undone.

The question is, as it has always been from the day of this event....do we have the balls to put a President in jail for his illegal actions, the actions of a traitor to our system and way of life in the USA who attempted to undermine the Democratic electoral system?

Do we have the balls to set this precedent? The facts are clear...Trump and supporters are guilty....that isn't up for debate.

Do we set a new precedent that could be used against all political parties?

Interesting that you're trying to figure out a way to get past the concept of journalistic privilege. Which has been upheld by the courts as a basis to not comply with a subpoena and produce the documents requested.

From there; Meadows and Bannon should have appeared but refused to answer any questions which fall under the penumbra of "exec privilege" unless specifically instructed by the person exerting that privilege, or the courts, to answer. Since Brandon isn't the person exerting the privilege, he cannot revoke it and instruct them to answer.

The WH's argument that the current President can revoke what past President's have done is without legal or Constitutional support. To say otherwise is akin to arguing that the second wife can revoke the prior spouse's marital privilege and require her handmaidens to testify despite a NDA.

 

[HisArpy]

Donald Trump is too fucking stupid to be the man in charge. That's the man I want to see charged with treason. Trump is a pawn

Treason has a very specific definition. That you want to apply it to the President without facts which support that specific definition, and for which the ONLY possible punishment is impeachment and removal from office, merely shows how rabidly insane your political lens is.

 

[TalkToMeInSB]

Democrats never uncover anything, they invent it and then gaslight dummies like you.

Hahaha.... Who is gaslighting here?!

 

[TalkToMeInSB]

Interesting that you're trying to figure out a way to get past the concept of journalistic privilege. Which has been upheld by the courts as a basis to not comply with a subpoena and produce the documents requested.

From there; Meadows and Bannon should have appeared but refused to answer any questions which fall under the penumbra of "exec privilege" unless specifically instructed by the person exerting that privilege, or the courts, to answer. Since Brandon isn't the person exerting the privilege, he cannot revoke it and instruct them to answer.

The WH's argument that the current President can revoke what past President's have done is without legal or Constitutional support. To say otherwise is akin to arguing that the second wife can revoke the prior spouse's marital privilege and require her handmaidens to testify despite a NDA.

Executive privilege can only be invoked by the active President, right?

 

[jaF0]

The ONLY Constitutionally allowed punishment for a President ...

You know one of the questions they ask when evaluating competency ... 'Who is the President of the United States?

Well, who is it Boobalah?

 

[Rightguide]

Executive privilege can only be invoked by the active President, right?

That assumption hasn't been tested by the SCOTUS. You can bet the confidential conversations of Barack Obama will remain classified for as long as you live., or until he releases them.

 

[WillJ8787]

The lack of intelligence on the part of some people is astounding.

The ONLY Constitutionally allowed punishment for a President who commits a crime in office is impeachment and removal. That's it. He can't be retried for the offense which got him impeached because of double jeopardy. He also can't be jailed because the ONLY Constitutionally authorized punishment is removal from office.

I think some basic common and reasonable sense is always in order when thinking about this sort of thing:

Is anyone above the law?

Do we have two sets of justice systems here in the USA or is it one for all of us?

A crime was committed....someone needs to go to jail, not just the pawns and easily manipulated masses who rioted into the Capitol Building.

Otherwise, this country does, in fact, have two sets of laws (justice) that would allow for more attempts at overthrow of the govt.

I hope you see I've already got you boxed in with a checkmate and no way out but to forfeit?

 

[WillJ8787]

That assumption hasn't been tested by the SCOTUS. You can bet the confidential conversations of Barack Obama will remain classified for as long as you live., or until he releases them.

Only because the next President holds the decision on whether it remains privileged or not. Biden is giving the green light on not affirming 45's privilege....game over dude!

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

In 2012, Eric Holder was charged with contempt of Congress. Also Lois Lerner in 2013. Neither of them were punished. The Meadows situation will likely play out in a similar fashion.

 

[pecksniff]

The lack of intelligence on the part of some people is astounding.

The ONLY Constitutionally allowed punishment for a President who commits a crime in office is impeachment and removal. That's it. He can't be retried for the offense which got him impeached because of double jeopardy. He also can't be jailed because the ONLY Constitutionally authorized punishment is removal from office.

An ex-president is not immune from criminal prosecution for actions while in office. (Ford understood that when he pardoned Nixon -- that is, he understood a pardon was necessary.) Double jeopardy does not attach to a matter for which he was impeached, because an impeachment is not a criminal prosecution.

 

[pecksniff]

......................

 

[Rightguide]

An ex-president is not immune from criminal prosecution for actions while in office. Double jeopardy does not attach to a matter for which he was impeached, because an impeachment is not a criminal prosecution.

He has to be tried for any crimes after he leaves office. That is the long-standing opinion of the OLC.

 

[Rightguide]

Only because the next President holds the decision on whether it remains privileged or not. Biden is giving the green light on not affirming 45's privilege....game over dude!

Somebody told you that but that has not been so interpreted by the SCOTUS. There will likely be an appeal to the court on this matter. Meadows is suing Nancy Pelosi and the Jan. 6 congressional lynch mob in federal court.

 

[pecksniff]

He has to be tried for any crimes after he leaves office. That is the long-standing opinion of the OLC.

The principle that a sitting president cannot be indicted has never been tested in the courts, it was simply the opinion of a presidential attorney.

 

[Rightguide]

The principle that a sitting president cannot be indicted has never been tested in the courts, it was simply the opinion of a presidential attorney.

Can't you fucking read? I just told you it's the long-standing opinion of the OLC.

 

[pecksniff]

That assumption hasn't been tested by the SCOTUS. You can bet the confidential conversations of Barack Obama will remain classified for as long as you live., or until he releases them.

Or until Biden releases them. He can do that.

 

[pecksniff]

Can't you fucking read? I just told you it's the long-standing opinion of the OLC.

Office of Legal Counsel -- presidential attorneys. They do not have authority here like a court has, it's only a lawyer's opinion. One of Nixon's lawyers, if I recall correctly.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

I think some basic common and reasonable sense is always in order when thinking about this sort of thing:

Is anyone above the law?

Do we have two sets of justice systems here in the USA or is it one for all of us?

A crime was committed....someone needs to go to jail, not just the pawns and easily manipulated masses who rioted into the Capitol Building.

Otherwise, this country does, in fact, have two sets of laws (justice) that would allow for more attempts at overthrow of the govt.

I hope you see I've already got you boxed in with a checkmate and no way out but to forfeit?

What exactly do you think is going to happen?

 

[Aglaopheme]

Democrats never uncover anything, they invent it and then gaslight dummies like you.

Are you saying the documents that Meadows turned over are false?

 

[jaF0]

Can't you fucking read? I just told you it's the long-standing opinion of the OLC.

Opinion is not law.