Trump's next coup has already begun

[pecksniff]

From The Atlantic.

Technically, the next attempt to overthrow a national election may not qualify as a coup. It will rely on subversion more than violence, although each will have its place. If the plot succeeds, the ballots cast by American voters will not decide the presidency in 2024. Thousands of votes will be thrown away, or millions, to produce the required effect. The winner will be declared the loser. The loser will be certified president-elect.

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“The democratic emergency is already here,” Richard L. Hasen, a professor of law and political science at UC Irvine, told me in late October. Hasen prides himself on a judicious temperament. Only a year ago he was cautioning me against hyperbole. Now he speaks matter-of-factly about the death of our body politic. “We face a serious risk that American democracy as we know it will come to an end in 2024,” he said, “but urgent action is not happening.”

For more than a year now, with tacit and explicit support from their party’s national leaders, state Republican operatives have been building an apparatus of election theft. Elected officials in Arizona, Texas, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, and other states have studied Donald Trump’s crusade to overturn the 2020 election. They have noted the points of failure and have taken concrete steps to avoid failure next time. Some of them have rewritten statutes to seize partisan control of decisions about which ballots to count and which to discard, which results to certify and which to reject. They are driving out or stripping power from election officials who refused to go along with the plot last November, aiming to replace them with exponents of the Big Lie. They are fine-tuning a legal argument that purports to allow state legislators to override the choice of the voters.

By way of foundation for all the rest, Trump and his party have convinced a dauntingly large number of Americans that the essential workings of democracy are corrupt, that made-up claims of fraud are true, that only cheating can thwart their victory at the polls, that tyranny has usurped their government, and that violence is a legitimate response.

Any Republican might benefit from these machinations, but let’s not pretend there’s any suspense. Unless biology intercedes, Donald Trump will seek and win the Republican nomination for president in 2024. The party is in his thrall. No opponent can break it and few will try. Neither will a setback outside politics—indictment, say, or a disastrous turn in business—prevent Trump from running. If anything, it will redouble his will to power.

Hasen, BTW, is an elections lawyer and the author of The Voting Wars: From Florida 2000 to the Next Election Meltdown (2013) and Election Meltdown: Dirty Tricks, Distrust, and the Threat to American Democracy (2000). Based on his bio, he is not any kind of partisan.

 

[KeithD]

Trumps first coup, supported by the board Trumpettes, never stopped.

 

[ll74]

The effort of state governments to install party officials that have the ability to overturn an election is the entire bullshit right now.

No party should be able to challenge an election outside of the court system.

 

[pecksniff]

The effort of state governments to install party officials that have the ability to overturn an election is the entire bullshit right now.

No party should be able to challenge an election outside of the court system.

I'm sure Hasen would agree.

 

[Rightguide]

From The Atlantic.

Deep State Democrat propaganda source,

Starting a new narrative, their last was the Russian Collusion and Ukraine phone call bullshit.

 

[pecksniff]

Deep State Democrat propaganda source,

The Atlantic?

Starting a new narrative, their last was the Russian Collusion and Ukraine phone call bullshit.

Neither of those were bullshit, as you know.

 

[Dribble]

And.....?

Democrats are unwilling to fight for their country at this time. Maybe once the coup happens? Hopefully at least one state will say enough is enough...we no longer want to be a part of this insanity and leave.

 

[Rightguide]

The Atlantic?



Neither of those were bullshit, as you know.

Both were total bullshit.

 

[pecksniff]

Both were total bullshit.

Trump's campaign colluded with the Russians, and the Russians interfered in the election on Trump's side. That is completely established fact. The only open question is how much Trump himself knew about it at the time.

As for Ukraine, come on, we've all heard the recording of that phone call! He was demanding domestic political help in exchange for foreign military aid! Of course that was impeachable!

 

[pecksniff]

And.....?

Democrats are unwilling to fight for their country at this time. Maybe once the coup happens? Hopefully at least one state will say enough is enough...we no longer want to be a part of this insanity and leave.

You keep talking about breaking up the Union as the most peaceful solution to our present political polarization -- but there's no way that can happen without bloodshed. And neither Bicoastia nor Dumbfuckistan would be a viable state by itself.

 

[JohnnySavage]

Will there be pie? I won't participate in a coup if there's no pie.

 

[Rightguide]

Trump's campaign colluded with the Russians, and the Russians interfered in the election on Trump's side. That is completely established fact. The only open question is how much Trump himself knew about it at the time.

Trump's campaign did not collude with the Russians, As Mueller stated. The alleged connection to the Alfa bank was false as Durham stated. Prove otherwise.

As for Ukraine, come on, we've all heard the recording of that phone call! He was demanding domestic political help in exchange for foreign military aid! Of course that was impeachable!

No, he wasn't. The charge was totally refuted in the Impeachment hearings.

The real quid pro quo was Joe Biden demanding the firing of the prosecutor investigating his son, in exchange for a billion dollars in US aid. There's video of Joe actually bragging about this. I've posted a link to it.

 

[pecksniff]

No, he wasn't. The charge was totally refuted in the Impeachment hearings.

The charge was totally confirmed in the impeachment hearings. We all heard them. The Senate's refusal to convict was purely partisan.

 

[Rightguide]

The charge was totally confirmed in the impeachment hearings. We all heard them. The Senate's refusal to convict was purely partisan.

No witness who heard the call testified there was a quid pro quo. We heard the tape.

 

[pecksniff]

No witness who heard the call testified there was a quid pro quo. We heard the tape.

The quid pro quo was on the tape. When Trump said, "We'd like you to do us a favor, though," the "us" was not the United States.

 

[GothTalk]

Technically, the next attempt to overthrow a national election may not qualify as a coup.

LOL!!!!!!

The left know's they're going to get their ass kicked in the next election cycle, maybe even the next 2.

"STOP THE STEAL!!" they're now crying.

They gotta start their own big lie.

 

[pecksniff]

LOL!!!!!!

The left know's they're going to get their ass kicked in the next election cycle, maybe even the next 2.

"STOP THE STEAL!!" they're now crying.

They gotta start their own big lie.

The plans to steal it are real. There is no other conceivable purpose to legislation that allows the state executive to set aside election counts.

 

[Rightguide]

The quid pro quo was on the tape. When Trump said, "We'd like you to do us a favor, though," the "us" was not the United States.

Yes, it was. You are delusional and partisan to the point of being blind to the truth:

"The Justice Department’s criminal division said it already had investigated Mr. Trump’s conversation with the Ukrainian president about Mr. Biden and concluded that Mr. Trump did not violate campaign finance laws.

"A separate division of the department also ruled that the administration did not break the law by failing to quickly share a whistleblower’s complaint with Congress over the Ukraine matter, saying it didn’t meet the definition of “urgent” to trigger immediate action."

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/sep/25/donald-trump-ukraine-transcript-shows-no-quid-pro-/

The Ukrainian President Zelensky said, “Nobody pushed me,” “I don’t want to be involved [in] democratic open elections of USA. We had good phone call. It was normal.”

 

[pecksniff]

Yes, it was. You are delusional and partisan to the point of being blind to the truth:

"The Justice Department’s criminal division . . .

Now you trust the Justice Department?!

 

[Dribble]

You keep talking about breaking up the Union as the most peaceful solution to our present political polarization -- but there's no way that can happen without bloodshed. And neither Bicoastia nor Dumbfuckistan would be a viable state by itself.

Argue for your limitations and so they shall be yours. Was there violence in the UK after they left the EU? No. If all you want is violence....that is what we shall have. One state alone is the World's 5th largest economy. One. Liechtenstein exists....so can any state that leaves. Small minds like yours fail to see the reality. You lost. They won. Either you fall lockstep to their demands...or you fight. Wasted blood is stupid. No reason for it. We can't live together....let us live apart

 

[GothTalk]

The plans to steal it are real.

https://c.tenor.com/d-CLcpHUYQgAAAAC/conspiracy-theory.gif

Sure peck.... sure

 

[Rightguide]

Now you trust the Justice Department?!

I'm just saying your own people, the DOJ, do not agree with you. The Democrat could not make it stick.

The real collusion as the Durham indictments demonstrate is that Hillary Clinton colluded, through Steele, with the Russians to influence the election, subvert and overthrow the presidency of Donald Trump by defrauding the FBI and the American people. That is the ego-deflating truth you will wake up everyday of the rest of your life.

 

[WillJ8787]

From The Atlantic.



Hasen, BTW, is an elections lawyer and the author of The Voting Wars: From Florida 2000 to the Next Election Meltdown (2013) and Election Meltdown: Dirty Tricks, Distrust, and the Threat to American Democracy (2000). Based on his bio, he is not any kind of partisan.

Soon enough it will become acceptable to shoot these traitors. I'm glad to be a good shot.

 

[GothTalk]

You keep talking about breaking up the Union as the most peaceful solution to our present political polarization -- but there's no way that can happen without bloodshed. And neither

Why not? Are you that hard for bloodshed? Are you such a psychotic control freak you're ready to kill to force your views on 150+ million Americans who don't want what you're selling???

Is simply being allowed to go do what you want with your own life not good enough for you??

Bicoasta nor Dumbfuckistan would be a viable state by itself.

No reason Dumbfuckistan wouldn't be fine. If the rich coastal areas can't figure it out then they don't deserve it and will either be fored to pull their heads out of their asses or become a 3rd world shit hole.

Argue for your limitations and so they shall be yours.
Was there violence in the UK after they left the EU? No. If all you want is violence....that is what we shall have. One state alone is the World's 5th largest economy. One. Liechtenstein exists....so can any state that leaves. Small minds like yours fail to see the reality. You lost. They won. Either you fall lockstep to their demands...or you fight. Wasted blood is stupid. No reason for it. We can't live together....let us live apart

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Iceland has a very progressive social democracy with just 366,425 people and a pissant GDP of 21 billion. The isn't any reason coastal states couldn't do the same either on their own or as a group.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Get with it BlueAnon members. Put on your tin foil hats and stop the coup!