They've lost everything they've ever had ....

[jaF0]

... because of a gun.



Daddy goes out and buys a gun. Four days later Junior takes and shoots up a school.

They lose their Son who will spend the rest of his life in prison. I don't know what they do for work, but they'll likely lose their jobs or business. The legal fees alone might bankrupt them. And then the civil suits. Daddy may go to jail too. Not sure about Mom, but she's a devout Donny-ite.


All because of a gun.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

A few less trumptards is always a good thing.

 

[OldJourno]

... because of a gun.



Daddy goes out and buys a gun. Four days later Junior takes and shoots up a school.

They lose their Son who will spend the rest of his life in prison. I don't know what they do for work, but they'll likely lose their jobs or business. The legal fees alone might bankrupt them. And then the civil suits. Daddy may go to jail too. Not sure about Mom, but she's a devout Donny-ite.


All because of a gun.

Daddy goes out and buys some Jim Beam. He stops on the way home and drinks most of the bottle. Oops, time to go home. Daddy is on the last busy street when his blurred vision leads him to drive onto the sidewalk where he kills and injures a number of pedestrians.
The family will lose their Daddy, who will spend the rest of his life in prison. I don't know what they do for work, but they'll likely lose their jobs or business. The legal fees alone might bankrupt them. And then the civil suits.
All because of whiskey.
Or maybe it was the SUV.

 

[BluesDriver66]

Daddy goes out and buys some Jim Beam. He stops on the way home and drinks most of the bottle. Oops, time to go home. Daddy is on the last busy street when his blurred vision leads him to drive onto the sidewalk where he kills and injures a number of pedestrians.
The family will lose their Daddy, who will spend the rest of his life in prison. I don't know what they do for work, but they'll likely lose their jobs or business. The legal fees alone might bankrupt them. And then the civil suits.
All because of whiskey.
Or maybe it was the SUV.

So you're comparing vehicle manslaughter to premeditated mass murder of children?

 

[ToPleaseHim]

... because of a gun.



Daddy goes out and buys a gun. Four days later Junior takes and shoots up a school.

They lose their Son who will spend the rest of his life in prison. I don't know what they do for work, but they'll likely lose their jobs or business. The legal fees alone might bankrupt them. And then the civil suits. Daddy may go to jail too. Not sure about Mom, but she's a devout Donny-ite.


All because of a gun.

They bought the gun for the kid and apparently let him have free access to it. They had better be charged.

https://forum.literotica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2127755&stc=1&d=1638419153

 

[rae121452]

i thought this thread was going to be about republicans' morals.

 

[KeithD]

Daddy goes out and buys some Jim Beam. He stops on the way home and drinks most of the bottle. Oops, time to go home. Daddy is on the last busy street when his blurred vision leads him to drive onto the sidewalk where he kills and injures a number of pedestrians.
The family will lose their Daddy, who will spend the rest of his life in prison. I don't know what they do for work, but they'll likely lose their jobs or business. The legal fees alone might bankrupt them. And then the civil suits.
All because of whiskey.
Or maybe it was the SUV.

Yeah, that's bad too. You are an asshat fail at using it in a coverup attempt for the easy accessibility of semi-automatic weapons, though.

 

[KeithD]

i thought this thread was going to be about republicans' morals.

Couldn't be. They don't have any anymore.

 

[jaF0]

Wonder if they'll get adjoining cages.

 

[KeithD]

Or if some Republican is posting bond for them. I thought I heard that there was a bond. Truly amazing that they would be released under any circumstances after having run.

 

[jaF0]

I don't expect the charges to stand, but maybe.

I expect the school district will be paying out mega-bucks.

 

[Champakian]

Daddy goes out and buys some Jim Beam. He stops on the way home and drinks most of the bottle. Oops, time to go home. Daddy is on the last busy street when his blurred vision leads him to drive onto the sidewalk where he kills and injures a number of pedestrians.
The family will lose their Daddy, who will spend the rest of his life in prison. I don't know what they do for work, but they'll likely lose their jobs or business. The legal fees alone might bankrupt them. And then the civil suits.
All because of whiskey.
Or maybe it was the SUV.

But guns are different. They're "alive." Like robots...

 

[Champakian]

i thought this thread was going to be about republicans' morals.

Alec Baldwin and Jussie Smollett are some of the more prominent Republicans
in the news along with that right-wing firebrand idiot Cuomo...

Their morals are just fucking deplorable.

 

[GothTalk]

Or if some Republican is posting bond for them. I thought I heard that there was a bond. Truly amazing that they would be released under any circumstances after having run.

Why? Do it all the time for BLM terrorist.... bout time we got equal rights and justice.

Now the charges just need to be dropped. The parents are victims of THE GUN in this too!

Yeah, that's bad too. You are an asshat fail at using it in a coverup attempt for the easy accessibility of semi-automatic weapons, though.

No, it's making fun of you and everyone else on the left trying to blame the gun for what a person did.

... because of a gun.



Daddy goes out and buys a gun. Four days later Junior takes and shoots up a school.

They lose their Son who will spend the rest of his life in prison. I don't know what they do for work, but they'll likely lose their jobs or business. The legal fees alone might bankrupt them. And then the civil suits. Daddy may go to jail too. Not sure about Mom, but she's a devout Donny-ite.


All because of a gun.

So at what point do you hold the people responsible instead of the inanimate object???

 

[HisArpy]

I don't expect the charges to stand, but maybe.

I expect the school district will be paying out mega-bucks.

The charges will probably survive through a guilty verdict at trial but that will be overturned on appeal.

There's too much media hype to expect otherwise in such an unfriendly state when it comes to guns.

 

[HisArpy]

They bought the gun for the kid and apparently let him have free access to it. They had better be charged.

Charged for what?

The parents weren't there when the kid went postal. They didn't give the kid the gun and tell him to go kill people with it. AFAIK, there's no law in Michigan *requiring* guns to be locked up when not being used.

What exactly did they do that was illegal? Be bad parents who should have used their crystal ball so they'd know that their kid was going to murder his schoolmates?

 

[jaF0]

Either way, it will cost them a fortune in legal fees, possibly (likely??) leading to bankruptcy and they'll never be able to live in that area again.

 

[JohnnySavage]

Dumb asses probably would have been arrested and released on PR if they hadn't fled.

 

[HisArpy]

Either way, it will cost them a fortune in legal fees, possibly (likely??) leading to bankruptcy and they'll never be able to live in that area again.

Let me tell you a story. It's about a very nice woman who worked all day long and was really looking forward to going home and being with her family for the evening. At the end of her street, she stopped for oncoming traffic before she could make a left turn. The traffic went past, she started her turn and ...


BAM!



She collided head on with a motorcycle she didn't see behind the traffic.


Thankfully, the motorcyclist didn't die. However, the insurance the woman had was insufficient to cover the motorcyclists injuries so he sued the woman. She and her family lost everything, including her job because her boss didn't like the fact that she was having to take time off from work to deal with being sued for everything she'd worked hard for.



This is an everyday occurrence almost everywhere. That the Crumbly's are now facing the same financial outcome isn't surprising, it's the way the world works.

 

[jaF0]

I'm not sure they fled rather than panicked and didn't know what to do. They may have come in voluntarily on Monday, but who knows for sure.

Also, was the expense and resource use of a task force necessary for newly charged suspects that were not directly involved in a violent act?

 

[LupusDei]

Charged for what?

I can't believe this is even discussed.

In the country I live, if a gun is used in a crime the registered owner of the gun is automatically charged as an accomplice to the crime. The only way out of that is to report the gun stolen -- preferably before the crime was committed. There would be seperate investigation and the gun owner can be found guilty of negligence if the gun wasn't taken out of locked certified and previously police inspected safe where it was stored separately from ammunition.

But generally, gun owner (buyer) is responsible for any crime committed with said gun, period.

(Just like the same is true of a car, generally. Automatic speeding tickets are sent to the registered owner, or if a car runs from the place of an accident, the owner is the default suspect of course.)

 

[JohnnySavage]

I can't believe this is even discussed.

In the country I live, if a gun is used in a crime the registered owner of the gun is automatically charged as an accomplice to the crime. The only way out of that is to report the gun stolen -- preferably before the crime was committed. There would be seperate investigation and the gun owner can be found guilty of negligence if the gun wasn't taken out of locked certified and previously police inspected safe where it was stored separately from ammunition.

But generally, gun owner (buyer) is responsible for any crime committed with said gun, period.

(Just like the same is true of a car, generally. Automatic speeding tickets are sent to the registered owner, or if a car runs from the place of an accident, the owner is the default suspect of course.)

As a gun owner, I would support that. In the US though, we have Federal laws, 50 States have their own laws, and the District of Columbia has it's laws. It's very difficult to have a national law like you have.

 

[HisArpy]

I can't believe this is even discussed.

In the country I live, if a gun is used in a crime the registered owner of the gun is automatically charged as an accomplice to the crime. The only way out of that is to report the gun stolen -- preferably before the crime was committed. There would be seperate investigation and the gun owner can be found guilty of negligence if the gun wasn't taken out of locked certified and previously police inspected safe where it was stored separately from ammunition.

But generally, gun owner (buyer) is responsible for any crime committed with said gun, period.

(Just like the same is true of a car, generally. Automatic speeding tickets are sent to the registered owner, or if a car runs from the place of an accident, the owner is the default suspect of course.)

Luckily for the Crumbly's, they don't live in your country.

 

[phrodeau]

I'm not sure they fled rather than panicked and didn't know what to do. They may have come in voluntarily on Monday, but who knows for sure.

Also, was the expense and resource use of a task force necessary for newly charged suspects that were not directly involved in a violent act?

If the suspects are heavily armed, yes.