Jury In Ahmaud Arbery Murder Trial Rejects Vigilantism

You are one ignorant bastard. Justice was served end of conversation. Perhaps there’s a white nationalist hiding behind the tree in your yard you fucktard!

There's someone in this thread posting in real time who believes white nationalism (or nationalism in general) is not a bad thing, and in fact, is another name for good ol' patriotism.

Do you believe so as well?
 
what they deserve is a life in prison

i will not condone calls for violence inside prisons. to spend a lifetime incarcerated is punishment...removing murdering bastards from society; in the same instance, further crimes committed inside that parameter should be vilified just as strongly. people are people, and will spend their time locked away...what is to be applauded about hoping physical violence happens to a person in prison? or is it another 'the american way' thing that's supposed to help deter people from committing the initial crimes? clearly it doesn't :(

I agree.

Promoting gratuitous violence is like drinking poison. Many Americans have been slurping a lot of poison in recent years, creating a very toxic environment.
 
There's someone in this thread posting in real time who believes white nationalism (or nationalism in general) is not a bad thing, and in fact, is another name for good ol' patriotism.

Do you believe so as well?

Zumi... demonstrating he can't read, but more likely that he's just wildly dishonest and can't back up his bullshit, same as ever.
 
There's someone in this thread posting in real time who believes white nationalism (or nationalism in general) is not a bad thing, and in fact, is another name for good ol' patriotism.

Do you believe so as well?

Nationalism is a good thing. Most people don’t hate their country.
 
I agree.

Promoting gratuitous violence is like drinking poison. Many Americans have been slurping a lot of poison in recent years, creating a very toxic environment.

Just like everything else... in the right place and time, violence is a good thing.

Even you support it so long as it's for the "progressive" leftist cause.
 
Just like everything else... in the right place and time, violence is a good thing.

Even you support it so long as it's for the "progressive" leftist cause.


I guess Coati believes violence, rioting, looting and burning down your town in the name of progress is not toxic. :rolleyes:
 
An errand for BoBo

Just like everything else... in the right place and time, violence is a good thing.

Even you support it so long as it's for the "progressive" leftist cause.

Look up the definition of the word "gratuitous". Also, cite when I called for any type of violence. All my posts remain recorded on Lit.

Then, compare and contrast my posts with yours (under your past three alt names) with regard to promoting gratuitous violence.
 
Nationalism is a good thing. Most people don’t hate their country.

Then you would call those people patriots, not nationalists.

We are too large of a country, too numerous as peoples and too unsophisticated as a collective for textbook nationalism to be a positive or benevolent ideology here. Nationalism here would make us into Panem, not America.
 
Look up the definition of the word "gratuitous".

I know the definition, what is and isn't though is subjective.

And lefties like yourself consider ANY violence against your terrorist comrades "gratuitous".

Also, cite when I called for any type of violence. All my posts remain recorded on Lit.

I never accused you of calling for.

Learn to read fuckwit.

Then, compare and contrast my posts with yours (under your past three alt names) with regard to promoting gratuitous violence.

I'm not the one pretending to condemn violence while supporting BLM riots and terrorist attacking people.
 
Nationalism is a good thing. Most people don’t hate their country.

But nationalism sometimes does make them hate other countries.

See George Orwell's "Notes on Nationalism" (an article in which he makes clear he is not using the word "nationalism" in the ordinary sense, in that the object of loyalty need not be a country, or even something that actually exists).

To name a few obvious examples, Jewry, Islam, Christendom, the Proletariat and the White Race are all of them objects of passionate nationalistic feeling: but their existence can be seriously questioned, and there is no definition of any one of them that would be universally accepted.
 
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I love it when ineedhelp1 plays stupid and pretends that when people use "nationalism" as a pejorative, they don't actually mean ultranationalism.

ineedhelp1 is a big fan of McCarthyism too.

JFC

SAD!!!
 
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Then you would call those people patriots, not nationalists.

We are too large of a country, too numerous as peoples and too unsophisticated as a collective for textbook nationalism to be a positive or benevolent ideology here. Nationalism here would make us into Panem, not America.

There was a time where nationalism and patriotism were synonymous or at least similar in meaning. Unfortunately today many people can’t seem to differentiate between *white nationalism* and nationalism, the two are not the same. The meaning of nationalism is to put one’s nation above others but unfortunately the PC police managed to put a negative spin on the word associating the word with naziism or white supremacy. Diversity doesn’t preclude a citizen from putting one’s country first and culture second, in America both are cherished.

Unity of diversity is what makes us strong as a nation. That is why after 911 we came together as a nation, diverse in nature but united within our borders.
 
There was a time where nationalism and patriotism were synonymous or at least similar in meaning. Unfortunately today many people can’t seem to differentiate between *white nationalism* and nationalism, the two are not the same. The meaning of nationalism is to put one’s nation above others but unfortunately the PC police managed to put a negative spin on the word associating the word with naziism or white supremacy. Diversity doesn’t preclude a citizen from putting one’s country first and culture second, in America both are cherished.

Unity of diversity is what makes us strong as a nation. That is why after 911 we came together as a nation, diverse in nature but united within our borders.

Don't forget how nationalism began, in 19th Century Europe -- originally it meant loyalty to an ethnicity. What might be called the international definition of nationalism is, "Every ethnocultural nation should have its own state, which is 1) independent and 2) united."

I once saw Sarah Silverman on TV telling her how it disturbed her when her BF put up an American flag. She was puzzled by her own reaction, because she loves America too. Her sister explained it to her: "Jews have an inherent fear of nationalism." That is because the original nationalism always included Jews out -- German Jews were not really German, Russian Jews were not really Russian -- they were a separate nation, with no territory of its own.

That was how Zionism started -- Jews started thinking, "Well, if we're a nation with no territory, we had better get some."
 
Don't forget how nationalism began, in 19th Century Europe -- originally it meant loyalty to an ethnicity.


What might be called the international definition of nationalism is, "Every ethnocultural nation should have its own state, which is 1) independent and 2) united."

No, that's the batshit leftist definition of the term.

That's not how nationalism began either. :)

You just hate nationalism as much if not more than liberalism.
 
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I love it when ineedhelp1 plays stupid and pretends that when people use "nationalism" as a pejorative, they don't actually mean ultranationalism.

ineedhelp1 is a big fan of McCarthyism too.

JFC

SAD!!!

Not at all. Only you lefty loons use nationalism as a pejorative. Back when I was in school, shortly after the Korean War, nationalism was synonymous with patriotism. Today America hating authoritarian Marxist like you use nationalism as a pejorative, mainly because you don’t have the balls to move to a totalitarian state where you could be happy.
 
Don't forget how nationalism began, in 19th Century Europe -- originally it meant loyalty to an ethnicity. What might be called the international definition of nationalism is, "Every ethnocultural nation should have its own state, which is 1) independent and 2) united."

I once saw Sarah Silverman on TV telling her how it disturbed her when her BF put up an American flag. She was puzzled by her own reaction, because she loves America too. Her sister explained it to her: "Jews have an inherent fear of nationalism." That is because the original nationalism always included Jews out -- German Jews were not really German, Russian Jews were not really Russian -- they were a separate nation, with no territory of its own.

That was how Zionism started -- Jews started thinking, "Well, if we're a nation with no territory, we had better get some."

If you’re going to accuse me of being a nationalist then accuse me using my interpretation and not yours.
 
There was a time where nationalism and patriotism were synonymous or at least similar in meaning. Unfortunately today many people can’t seem to differentiate between *white nationalism* and nationalism, the two are not the same. The meaning of nationalism is to put one’s nation above others but unfortunately the PC police managed to put a negative spin on the word associating the word with naziism or white supremacy. Diversity doesn’t preclude a citizen from putting one’s country first and culture second, in America both are cherished.

Unity of diversity is what makes us strong as a nation. That is why after 911 we came together as a nation, diverse in nature but united within our borders.

It wasn't the "PC police" that put a negative spin on the word nationalism.

Don't hold your breath on any unification through "positive" nationalism in America in your lifetime then, because capitalism and the worship of money has made that impossible on several levels.
 
9 white women, two white men and one black man - The Jury, all Americans, have done sterling service to their state and their country.
 
It wasn't the "PC police" that put a negative spin on the word nationalism.

Don't hold your breath on any unification through "positive" nationalism in America in your lifetime then, because capitalism and the worship of money has made that impossible on several levels.

So what you’re saying is that you can’t be a capitalist and nationalist at the same time. Can you be a patriot and a capitalist at the same time?

So you have a problem with private ownership of business. People own businesses to make money, they can’t be nationalist and capitalist at the same time? That doesn’t make sense.Now if you’re talking corporatist I would agree they tend to be globalist and would probably define nationalism as a pejorative.
 
No, that's the batshit leftist definition of the term.

That's not how nationalism began either. :)

Historically, it is. In countries like Germany, nationalism meant, "We're all Germans, so we need to abolish the independence of all these petty principalities and unite." In countries like the Austro-Hungarian Empire, nationalism meant, "We're not German or Austrian -- we need to secede from the Empire and form our own independent Hungary/Rumania/etc."
 
It wasn't the "PC police" that put a negative spin on the word nationalism.

Don't hold your breath on any unification through "positive" nationalism in America in your lifetime then, because capitalism and the worship of money has made that impossible on several levels.

Do you really expect a Deplorable to understand the point you're making???

Those fuckers have some delusional notion that America was once "great" for ALL its citizens, and they want to make it that way again; hence the MAGA slogan.

Their idea of "positive nationalism" is having disenfranchised Americans accept the OLD status quo.

:rolleyes:
 
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