A Veteran Perspective

[ll74]

https://www.stonekettle.com/2021/11/how-heroes-die-veterans-day-2021.html - disclaimer - the veteran is not me. I did not serve. I am a member of Team RWB that is meant to support veterans.

If you want to honor veterans, then don’t call them heroes. That’s the easy way out.

If you want to honor veterans, then live up to the ideals they fought to defend.

I didn’t go to war so that my son could follow.

I went with the hope he would never have to.

I have nothing but gratitude for people who served. I honestly feel like it's demanded that we make a huge statement expressing that gratitude, which I feel cheapens the whole sentiment....so I'm less likely to be the one to thank every one I see, not because that gratitude doesn't exist, but because those veterans I know, know about my gratitude....I participate in events meant to help veterans with suicide prevention, financial relief, or just friendly gatherings. Those who don't know me, I don't think they really care whether I give them the "thank you for your service"

To each their own. I enjoy hearing from veterans from all perspectives.

I hope that every veteran has the chance to enjoy a day of gratitude and appreciation - whether it be a day off doing nothing or participation in an event with others, such as an honor run.

 

[HisArpy]

I have nothing but disdain and spit for your low-heeled virtue signaling.

 

[JohnnySavage]

I'm not big on freebies or thanks. I'm proud to have served, but I got paid once a month and free healthcare for life. That's plenty.

I do enjoy the comradery with other Veterans though, but that's because of a shared experience.

Navy MMC(ss/dv/sw)

 

[LukSkyFokker]

I have nothing but disdain and spit for your low-heeled virtue signaling.

That's not virtue signaling you ignorant fuckknuckle.

 

[ll74]

I have nothing but disdain and spit for your low-heeled virtue signaling.

Not sure who you're talking about here, but it certainly isn't me.

 

[ll74]

I'm not big on freebies or thanks. I'm proud to have served, but I got paid once a month and free healthcare for life. That's plenty.

I do enjoy the comradery with other Veterans though, but that's because of a shared experience.

Navy MMC(ss/dv/sw)

I can appreciate the bond established there...I see it during events up close. At first, I thought I would be left outside the group because I didn't serve, but every single one appreciates my participation and I'm proud to be a part of the organization.

 

[oggbashan]

Two of my wife's uncles died in WW2 - One in Italy, near the River Po; the other in the taking of the island of Walcheren.

Most of my father's generation was too old to serve in WW2 and too young for WW1, except my youngest uncle who was in the Royal Engineers digging tunnels inside Gibraltar until he got TB and was invalided out.

My father was heavily involved in the preparation for D-Day and afterwards. After VE Day he was commissioned into the Royal Naby to serve during the invasion of Japan which never happened because of Japan's surrender.

But I have met survivors, Canadians from the Dieppe disaster, and one of my friends was a tank commander off Omaha beach until his tank sunk with his crew. Their memorials are in the US cemetery above that beach and I have taken him there twice.

 

[ll74]

Two of my wife's uncles died in WW2 - One in Italy, near the River Po; the other in the taking of the island of Walcheren.

Most of my father's generation was too old to serve in WW2 and too young for WW1, except my youngest uncle who was in the Royal Engineers digging tunnels inside Gibraltar until he got TB and was invalided out.

My father was heavily involved in the preparation for D-Day and afterwards. After VE Day he was commissioned into the Royal Naby to serve during the invasion of Japan which never happened because of Japan's surrender.

But I have met survivors, Canadians from the Dieppe disaster, and one of my friends was a tank commander off Omaha beach until his tank sunk with his crew. Their memorials are in the US cemetery above that beach and I have taken him there twice.

I have a neighbor with severe PTSD. I haven't talked to him much, but he's a nice guy....we wave when passing.

I had an in depth discussion with a fellow volunteer at a local tennis tourney about his time in Vietnam. He volunteers every summer to teach a class on his experiences. Out in the dark woods, inside the barbwire and protected by artillery flash ammo to light up the incoming enemy. I was absolutely enthralled with his stories and his openness to sharing his experience, which was brutal, to say the least.

 

[oggbashan]

My US friend from Kentucky, now deceased, told me things he hadn't told his family. I wrote them down., and after he had died I sent them to his son. and then deleted them at the veteran's request.

His DD Sherman tank was launched too far from Omaha, along with dozens of others that promptly sank. He, as the commander on top, was the only survivor. He swam ashore with nothing, not even his Colt. He took a rifle and ammo from a dead GI and took part in the breakout from the beach.

The next day he was given another Sherman and crew. Two days later that was destroyed by a German tank at 100 yards range and again he was the only survivor. Before the breakout from Normandy, he had lost seven Shermans with their crews and was seen as jinxed. He took a post with the regimental HQ but had a squadron of tanks for the entry into Paris.

He was wounded, again, crossing the Rhine and again in the Battle of the Bulge, but refused to have more than basic first aid because his troops needed him. He was one of the hard men of WW2.

 

[Comshaw]

My Grandfather was a truck driver during WWI supplying units in the trenches.

My father was sent to Europe but arrived after Germany surrendered. He served as an MP before he was shipped to Okinawa in preparation for the invasion of Japan. After the bombs were dropped, he was assigned as a truck driver and was one of the first relief drivers into Nagasaki.

My father-in-law served as a weatherman in the Azores islands directly after WWII.

My wife's uncle served on the sub USS Gato and his twin brother on the sub USS Naulilus during the war in the Pacific.

I served a year in Vietnam, 5 more in the Army and another 7 in the National Guard.

One of my brothers served 24 years in the Army (as well as time in the gulf war) and retired a Master Sargent.

My youngest brother served in the Marines and was in Beirut in the 80's when the Marine Barracks was bombed. Luckily, he wasn't there at the time of the bombing.

Over 100 years of veterans in my family.

Comshaw

 

[CornusKousa]

I have nothing but gratitude for people who served. I honestly feel like it's demanded that we make a huge statement expressing that gratitude, which I feel cheapens the whole sentiment....so I'm less likely to be the one to thank every one I see, not because that gratitude doesn't exist, but because those veterans I know, know about my gratitude....I participate in events meant to help veterans with suicide prevention, financial relief, or just friendly gatherings. Those who don't know me, I don't think they really care whether I give them the "thank you for your service"

To each their own. I enjoy hearing from veterans from all perspectives.

I like this part especially......

If you want to honor veterans, then live up to the ideals they fought to defend.

Life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness.... civil rights/liberties.... rule of law.

You know... all those annoying "alt-reich" white nationalist things that "progressives" detest openly and are outright hostile towards.

I hope that every veteran has the chance to enjoy a day of gratitude and appreciation - whether it be a day off doing nothing or participation in an event with others, such as an honor run.

Holding up your end of the service contract with the pension/HC are all any vet should need to feel appreciated.

Please remember this when congress inevitably wants to cut veterans benefits to give extra big handouts to illegal immigrants.

I'm not big on freebies or thanks. I'm proud to have served, but I got paid once a month and free healthcare for life. That's plenty.

I do enjoy the comradery with other Veterans though, but that's because of a shared experience.

Navy MMC(ss/dv/sw)

Well said.

 

[ll74]

Please remember this when congress inevitably wants to cut veterans benefits to give extra big handouts to illegal immigrants.

Fuck off, no one is doing that.

Tthe budget for veterans has increased every year (including FY2022)

 

[HisArpy]

Fuck off, no one is doing that.

Tthe budget for veterans has increased every year (including FY2022)

They just dropped $1.5 TRILLION and not a single dime of it went to increasing our service members pay. Meanwhile, the enlisted personnel of the greatest military in the world have to apply for and receive food stamps just to survive.

But, you know, wave a flag for them once a year and call your duty done.

Like I said, I have nothing but disdain for your virtue signalling and I spit in your direction.

 

[ll74]

They just dropped $1.5 TRILLION and not a single dime of it went to increasing our service members pay. Meanwhile, the enlisted personnel of the greatest military in the world have to apply for and receive food stamps just to survive.

But, you know, wave a flag for them once a year and call your duty done.

Like I said, I have nothing but disdain for your virtue signalling and I spit in your direction.

Service members get an increase in pay every year. It's tied to an existing law.

I have already explained what I do, you idiot...it was in the post you completely ignored.

Your reading comprehension needs work. I don't care where you spit.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

They just dropped $1.5 TRILLION and not a single dime of it went to increasing our service members pay. Meanwhile, the enlisted personnel of the greatest military in the world have to apply for and receive food stamps just to survive.

But, you know, wave a flag for them once a year and call your duty done.

Like I said, I have nothing but disdain for your virtue signalling and I spit in your direction.

Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

 

[RobDownSouth]

They just dropped $1.5 TRILLION and not a single dime of it went to increasing our service members pay.

The DOD consumes 60% of the Federal budget
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AngelicPracticalHarpseal-size_restricted.gif

Meanwhile, the enlisted personnel of the greatest military in the world have to apply for and receive food stamps just to survive.

Meanwhile, back in the reality-base world, far from the feverswamp imagination of a spineless pettifogger, Military.com sez
https://i.imgur.com/yXPujzF.png

 

[CornusKousa]

Fuck off, no one is doing that.

Tthe budget for veterans has increased every year (including FY2022)

Give it a little time, Biden isn't done yet.

As for the outright hatred of US values..... bro, the entire Democrat platform and policy positions revolve around taking those values out and replacing them with the opposite and calling it progress.

Censored speech, gun bans, wealth taxes, turning the USA into a unitary state, racial equity....I mean there is literally NOTHING about the USA that "progressive" Democrats don't totally fucking despise.

 

[BidudeinWi]

That's not virtue signaling you ignorant fuckknuckle.

His words are meaningless in context of everything he espouses on this board. “Virtue signaling” is vanilla compared to what he REALLY is! Fuck him and fuck you, LibTard!

 

[ll74]

Give it a little time, Biden isn't done yet.

As for the outright hatred of US values..... bro, the entire Democrat platform and policy positions revolve around taking those values out and replacing them with the opposite and calling it progress.

Censored speech, gun bans, wealth taxes, turning the USA into a unitary state, racial equity....I mean there is literally NOTHING about the USA that "progressive" Democrats don't totally fucking despise.

#grievancePorn

When he doesn't reduce the budget for veterans and instead increases it every year, you'll never admit that you were wrong

Take your grievance to another thread fuckhead

 

[ll74]

His words are meaningless in context of everything he espouses on this board. “Virtue signaling” is vanilla compared to what he REALLY is! Fuck him and fuck you, LibTard!

#grievancePorn
You didn't even read anything I wrote. Fuck off

 

[LittleDixie]

I respect the courage that it takes to knowingly risk your life for something that you believe in.

Sadly, soldiers are often the victims of heavy propaganda. They have been convinced that "serving their country" and "protecting their nation" is done in foreign countries that pose little or no threat to us back home. They've been told that their job is noble and the risks they take are for the USA, but in reality, they are pawns of big corporations and geopolitics. They are trained to kill people on behalf of bigger interests that have little to do with the safety of Americans or their freedoms.

So ultimately, veterans were once noble people that lined their road with good intentions and got turned into hired killers. I don't respect that at all.

 

[ll74]

I respect the courage that it takes to knowingly risk your life for something that you believe in.

Sadly, soldiers are often the victims of heavy propaganda. They have been convinced that "serving their country" and "protecting their nation" is done in foreign countries that pose little or no threat to us back home. They've been told that their job is noble and the risks they take are for the USA, but in reality, they are pawns of big corporations and geopolitics. They are trained to kill people on behalf of bigger interests that have little to do with the safety of Americans or their freedoms.

So ultimately, veterans were once noble people that lined their road with good intentions and got turned into hired killers. I don't respect that at all.

You have a twisted view. Maybe have a few conversations with veterans, sometime.

 

[LittleDixie]

You have a twisted view. Maybe have a few conversations with veterans, sometime.

Maybe if I drink more of the Kool-Aid I can be brainwashed just like them?

Nah, I'm good.

They're not bad people. They're just the pawns of the elite who send them around the world to pave the way for corporations to make money. The military industrial complex loves it when soldiers get a chance to drop a bomb or shoot some bullets, because they get to sell you the replacements. It doesn't really matter to them that you shoot a child or bomb a wedding.

Veterans are the old, discarded pawns of the government.

 

[ll74]

Maybe if I drink more of the Kool-Aid I can be brainwashed just like them?

Nah, I'm good.

They're not bad people. They're just the pawns of the elite who send them around the world to pave the way for corporations to make money. The military industrial complex loves it when soldiers get a chance to drop a bomb or shoot some bullets, because they get to sell you the replacements. It doesn't really matter to them that you shoot a child or bomb a wedding.

Veterans are the old, discarded pawns of the government.

You didn't need to elaborate. I was correct.

 

[RoperTrace]

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