What use is the GOP any more?

[pecksniff]

The Congressional GOP's agenda is the same now as in the Obama years -- to deny the Dems anything they can claim as a success, no matter what the issue, even if it is an issue on which they previously agreed (don't forget the ACA was based on a Heritage Foundation proposal). They have no positive issues of their own other than border control and tax cuts.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

The Congressional GOP's agenda is the same now as in the Obama years -- to deny the Dems anything they can claim as a success, no matter what the issue, even if it is an issue on which they previously agreed (don't forget the ACA was based on a Heritage Foundation proposal). They have no positive issues of their own other than border control and tax cuts.

Wasn't this apparent in the last election, when the Republicans never released a "platform"?

 

[adrina]

Party power. By whatever means necessary.

 

[pecksniff]

Party power. By whatever means necessary.

What good is party power if you have nothing in mind to do with it?

The GOP is not the Libertarian Party -- it ought to have some agenda other than obstruction and rendering government ineffectual.

 

[adrina]

What good is party power if you have nothing in mind to do with it?

The GOP is not the Libertarian Party -- it ought to have some agenda other than obstruction and rendering government ineffectual.

I didn't say it was logical. But by all measures of observation that is their end goal - to maintain and grow party power.

 

[Rightguide]

The Congressional GOP's agenda is the same now as in the Obama years -- to deny the Dems anything they can claim as a success, no matter what the issue, even if it is an issue on which they previously agreed (don't forget the ACA was based on a Heritage Foundation proposal). They have no positive issues of their own other than border control and tax cuts.

It's their job to control the insanity of the left, who make all decisions with their glands.

 

[pecksniff]

It's their job to control the insanity of the left, who make all decisions with their glands.

See post #4.

If we had a left, that might make some small measure of sense, but we only have the Democrats. They don't make decisions with their glands, they consult policy experts and work out figures.

 

[Dribble]

What good is party power if you have nothing in mind to do with it?

The GOP is not the Libertarian Party -- it ought to have some agenda other than obstruction and rendering government ineffectual.

Their goal is to make money by all means possible. Especially off the donations of retards

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

The Congressional GOP's agenda is the same now as in the Obama years -- to deny the Dems anything they can claim as a success, no matter what the issue, even if it is an issue on which they previously agreed (don't forget the ACA was based on a Heritage Foundation proposal). They have no positive issues of their own other than border control and tax cuts.

Party out of power usually opposes what they consider undesirable elements of the other party’s agenda. The Heritage Foundation did propose an insurance mandate but it never became a mainstream element of GOP agenda.

 

[pecksniff]

Party out of power usually opposes what they consider undesirable elements of the other party’s agenda.

They also usually have some alternative to it. The GOP no longer has.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Dems had no alternative to border control or TCJA

 

[pecksniff]

Dems had no alternative to border control or TCJA

And didn't need any. Border control was more than adequate under Obama, and America did not need the 2017 tax bill. What good has it done?

 

[CornusKousa]

The Congressional GOP's agenda is the same now as in the Obama years -- to deny the Dems anything .

Yup.

What good is party power if you have nothing in mind to do with it?

Not being a radical leftist doesn't mean they have nothing in mind to do with it.

The GOP is not the Libertarian Party --

It is however the more liberal party of the two major options.

it ought to have some agenda other than obstruction and rendering government ineffectual.

Not being radical leftist totalitarians =/= rendering government ineffectual.

Their goal is to make money by all means possible. Especially off the donations of retards

OH NOES!!! Not making money!! That would be horrible because offends leftist who don't know how to do it for themselves.

Dems had no alternative to border control or TCJA

Yea they did, open borders and ALL THE TAXES, no more private property, you rent your life from the federal government.

 

[pecksniff]

Not being radical leftist totalitarians =/= rendering government ineffectual.

Not being radical leftist totalitarians = being Democrats.

 

[CornusKousa]

And didn't need any. Border control was more than adequate under Obama,

The growth of illegals because of (D)'eez and their subversion of our laws says otherwise.

and America did not need the 2017 tax bill. What good has it done?

Let almost all American citizens keep more of their money.

You're right it should have been a flat tax.... so everyone was paying their fair share, 38 cents of every dollar, zero exceptions.

 

[pecksniff]

OH NOES!!! Not making money!! That would be horrible because offends leftist who don't know how to do it for themselves.

I should hope making money through politics would be just as horrible to you.

 

[CornusKousa]

Not being radical leftist totalitarians = being Democrats.

But being a Democrat does = being a radical leftist totalitarian control freaks TOTALLY INCAPABLE of minding your own dumpster fires of cities/states.

 

[CornusKousa]

I should hope making money through politics would be just as horrible to you.

Depends on how it's "made".... are you robbing peter to pay paul?? Are you engaging in protectionism/elitism to fill your pockets?? That's wrong. Also why I won't support most Democraps anymore.

Are you just getting your campaign on and getting people to throw their money behind you??

Nothing wrong with that.

 

[pecksniff]

Depends on how it's "made".... are you robbing peter to pay paul??

No, you're begging campaign donations off Peter and then not spending them on your campaign.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

And didn't need any. Border control was more than adequate under Obama, and America did not need the 2017 tax bill. What good has it done?

I’m sorry. If you are not aware of illegal border crossings, and if you feel that Americans are under taxed, I’m not going to waste time educating you.

 

[pecksniff]

But being a Democrat does = being a radical leftist totalitarian control freaks TOTALLY INCAPABLE of minding your own dumpster fires of cities/states.

Where things in general go much better than in the red states. More industry, more jobs, more public services, more money flowing through the local economy. There is probably even less drug abuse than in the red states, despite the big cities' reputation in that regard.

 

[CornusKousa]

No, you're begging campaign donations off Peter and then not spending them on your campaign.

As long as all the contributions are voluntary, I don't really give a fuck.

People throw money at celebrities, Hollywood and corporations all day every day for total fucking trash and nobody bats an eye.

Why should your politician be any different?

Where things in general go much better than in the red states. ​More industry, more jobs, more public services, more money flowing through the local economy. There is probably even less drug abuse than in the red states, despite the cities' reputation in that regard.

More homlessnes, poverty, crime, corruption and income inequity.

Explains why people who can leave "progressive" cities and states? Are.

I’m sorry. If you are not aware of illegal border crossings, and if you feel that Americans are under taxed, I’m not going to waste time educating you.

He literally just accused conservatives of promoting/enabling illegal immigration.... yup he's that fucking retarded.

 

[pecksniff]

Border security was more than adequate under Obama, who set a record for deportations, and the top 1% of Americans are undertaxed.

 

[CornusKousa]

Border security was more than adequate under Obama,

The growth of illegals says otherwise.

who set a record for deportations,

Means nothing when you don't secure the border and they just walk right back in.

and the top 1% of Americans are undertaxed.

Considering the top 20% pay nearly all the taxes and the lower 50~ish % on any given year pay NOTHING.

It's clearly the lower 50% who are undertaxed.

 

[WillJ8787]

The Congressional GOP's agenda is the same now as in the Obama years -- to deny the Dems anything they can claim as a success, no matter what the issue, even if it is an issue on which they previously agreed (don't forget the ACA was based on a Heritage Foundation proposal). They have no positive issues of their own other than border control and tax cuts.

To laugh at mostly, save a few non low character individuals.who keep on trying. Just an obstacle to go around.