Greetings from Trumpland!

[Bud_Spencer]

At the Trump Miami Beach Resort at a workshop studying the Marxist roots of diversity, equity and inclusion. You know, the stuff you port-siders dispense every day. Very interesting.


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[pecksniff]

Marxism is pseudoscientific to the extent it purports to be scientific -- OTOH, nothing is wrong, scientifically or morally, because it has "Marxist roots," no more than modern psychology is wrong for having Freudian roots, or chemistry for having its roots in alchemy.

 

[coati]

Well, have fun worshiping in a temple of your cult leader.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

At the Trump Miami Beach Resort at a workshop studying the Marxist roots of diversity, equity and inclusion. You know, the stuff you port-siders dispense every day. Very interesting.


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*chuckles*

"A fool and his money are soon parted"

Trump learned that early on in life....and figured he should be the recipient of that foolishly spent money....

 

[LukSkyFokker]

At the Trump Miami Beach Resort at a workshop studying the Marxist roots of diversity, equity and inclusion. You know, the stuff you port-siders dispense every day. Very interesting.


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No, you're not.

 

[The_Trouvere]

At the Trump Miami Beach Resort at a workshop studying the Marxist roots of diversity, equity and inclusion. You know, the stuff you port-siders dispense every day. Very interesting.


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Once I took a fascinating seminar on Das Kapital, given by the American Communist Party. The man leading the seminar was a brilliant physicist. While leading the seminar and performing his day job in physics he was translating a book from Russian to Swedish for the Soviet government.

I already owned most of the books on the reading list, including all three volumes of Das Kapital and an anthology of essays by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels. These had been printed in Moscow by Progress Publishers.

I have known card carrying members of the CPUSA. I have always liked them.

I was never a Marxist, but I have read a lot by Karl Marx. He never mentioned diversity, equity and inclusion, because he disregarded race, nation, and ethnicity.

I am opposed to using affirmative action to achieve diversity, equity and inclusion. Nevertheless, I think affirmative action should be criticized without committing the Guilt by Association Fallacy.

 

[pecksniff]

I was never a Marxist, but I have read a lot by Karl Marx. He never mentioned diversity, equity and inclusion, because he disregarded race, nation, and ethnicity.

Yeah, it was all about class -- presumed to transcend national boundaries.

The proles have never acted as if they saw it that way.

 

[The_Trouvere]

Marxism is pseudoscientific to the extent it purports to be scientific -- OTOH, nothing is wrong, scientifically or morally, because it has "Marxist roots," no more than modern psychology is wrong for having Freudian roots, or chemistry for having its roots in alchemy.

A political thinker should be read for insight, rather than doctrine. This requires one to study the political thinker at his or her level, and to understand what the political thinker claims to be true. Most people either like what the political thinker says, so they believe all of it, or they dislike it, so they disagree with all of it.

I think Karl Marx had two valid insights, and that he was mistaken about everything else. I respect Marx and think he was one of the greatest political philosophers and economists of all time. I have also read Vladimir Lenin, and see no value in his thinking at all.

 

[ll74]

At the Trump Miami Beach Resort at a workshop studying the Marxist roots of diversity, equity and inclusion. You know, the stuff you port-siders dispense every day. Very interesting.


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Seems like a boring conference.

One power point slide with "The left is Marxist"

I expect the rest of the conference is just a circle jerk of white assholes spewing grievance porn and one upping each other on their Democrat pwns

 

[pecksniff]

I think Karl Marx had two valid insights, and that he was mistaken about everything else.

It is certainly true that changes in the modes of production are an important driving factor in social and political change -- what was the other one?

 

[The_Trouvere]

It is certainly true that changes in the modes of production are an important driving factor in social and political change -- what was the other one?

Marx's first insight is that the tendency of unregulated capitalism is to accumulate wealth and income at the top. The second insight is that partly as a result of this capitalist economies experience increasingly destructive down turns.

This is what did happen from the publication of The Communist Manifesto in 1848 to the Stock Market Crash of 1929. A man who can predict the economic history of the next 81 years deserves to be taken seriously.

President Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal countered those tendencies with steeply progressive taxation, minimum wage laws, laws to protect labor unions, government employment like the Civilian Conservation Corps, and increases in the public sector of the economy. As a result the Great Depression came to an end. Recessions became less severe. The United States developed the largest and richest middle class in history.

Beginning with the Reagan administration, Republicans have been scaling back the reforms of the New Deal. The tax system has become flatter. Labor unions have become weaker. The minimum wage has lost ground to increases in labor productivity. Consequently, economic growth again goes mainly to the most affluent. Recessions become longer and deeper. They are followed by jobless recoveries, when the per capita gross domestic product (GDP) grows, while unemployment remains high, and wages do not increase.

 

[The_Trouvere]

Seems like a boring conference.

One power point slide with "The left is Marxist"

I expect the rest of the conference is just a circle jerk of white assholes spewing grievance porn and one upping each other on their Democrat pwns

I am sure that the seminar I took on Das Kapital was more erudite.

 

[pecksniff]

I read once that the tsar's censors allowed Das Kapital to be imported freely into Russia, on the grounds that it was too dull to be dangerous.

And probably, most Bolsheviks never read it.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

Funny as fuck to hear you guys trying to claim that anyone in the US is Marxist. We are way too materialistic.

Be sure to share with us the results of your brainwashing.

 

[pecksniff]

Funny as fuck to hear you guys trying to claim that anyone in the US is Marxist. We are way too materialistic.

Marxism is a purely materialistic philosophy.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

Marxism is a purely materialistic philosophy.

I'm listening.

Material as opposed to spiritual?

 

[Bud_Spencer]

No, you're not.

From the conference

 

[pecksniff]

I'm listening.

Material as opposed to spiritual?

Marxism is often called atheistic, but it is so only in that it posits purely material causes for the course of human events -- which practically everybody would assume, nowadays.

It also has a moral aspect which Marx, despite his academic background in pure philosophy, never adequately explored -- he simply assumed the superior justice of a communist social order.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Marxism is often called atheistic, but it is so only in that it posits purely material causes for the course of human events -- which practically everybody would assume, nowadays.

It also has a moral aspect which Marx, despite his academic background in pure philosophy, never adequately explored -- he simply assumed the superior justice of a communist social order.

What do you think Karl and Fred would assume now, given the pile of corpses and abject ruination that their little lark have caused since?

 

[coati]

From the conference

OMG, you must be so excited to be in the Temple! Take copious notes and lots 'o pics!

 

[LukSkyFokker]

From the conference

Means nothing. You could have lifted that from Parler.

 

[pecksniff]

What do you think Karl and Fred would assume now, given the pile of corpses and abject ruination that their little lark have caused since?

Dunno about Fred, but Karl would be as stubborn as he always was.

He notoriously refused to speak in any venue where he might have to face hostile questions.

 

[The_Trouvere]

I read once that the tsar's censors allowed Das Kapital to be imported freely into Russia, on the grounds that it was too dull to be dangerous.

And probably, most Bolsheviks never read it.

The appeal of Das Kapital to a Marxist is the belief that there on the shelf if proof of anything the Marxist wants to believe.

 

[The_Trouvere]

What do you think Karl and Fred would assume now, given the pile of corpses and abject ruination that their little lark have caused since?

Karl Marx never advocated the totalitarian methods used in his name during the twentieth century. Nevertheless, he did inspire them, so he is not completely innocent. During the twentieth century millions of people were not killed in the name of John Stuart Mill.

 

[pecksniff]

Marx never even described how a communist economy would work. He seems to have assumed that once the proletarian revolution burst the capitalist integument, everything would just fall into place.