Counselor706
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CA bans sale of lawn mowers, leaf blowers, and other gas-powered equipment
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LukSkyFokker
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It's funny that you link the RWCJ conspiracy site, Blaze, when legit news outlets were all over this yesterday. It shows that you get your "news" from a singular source.
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I'm sitting here right now and they're droning away outside. All I can say "Come on 2024!".
Though I think we (California, since I am the whole damn state) should have titled this one "The Landscaper Full Employment Act of 2021". Think of all the jobs it's going to create for entry level landscapers or as we like to call them "Leaf Relocation Specialists". Infrastructure baby!
Though I think we (California, since I am the whole damn state) should have titled this one "The Landscaper Full Employment Act of 2021". Think of all the jobs it's going to create for entry level landscapers or as we like to call them "Leaf Relocation Specialists". Infrastructure baby!
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A better name would be "debauched rakes."
That's funny. It would make a good business card/job title.
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This was way overdue. For those who don't understand the logic, do a bit of research on just how badly these small engines pollute. The electric options that have already been on the market for several years are better in many ways, and this kind of legislation will most likely lead to even more improvement on electric options. I have been phasing over to all electric on all my power tools for a while now, mostly due to how much nicer they are to work with in general. Electric saws, weed whacker, leaf blower, nail gun, etc. All of them have proven to be excellent purchases, and I couldn't be happier with them. They have their pro's and con's, just like any other tool; but for me the advantages far outweigh the minor negatives.
I'm glad that California is a forward looking state, and isn't stuck with outdated perspectives. Even the oil and gas companies themselves are fully aware that other sources of energy are going to be the future, regardless of whether or not we like it. We can either be ahead of that curve...or be left behind in 10-15 years. Hopefully other states will begin to see the writing on the wall sooner, rather than later.
I'm glad that California is a forward looking state, and isn't stuck with outdated perspectives. Even the oil and gas companies themselves are fully aware that other sources of energy are going to be the future, regardless of whether or not we like it. We can either be ahead of that curve...or be left behind in 10-15 years. Hopefully other states will begin to see the writing on the wall sooner, rather than later.
Of course, all electric options do is push the pollution problem back a step -- the electricity has to be generated somewhere, and little is gained if the source is coal-powered plants.
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Yes and no. Yes that power still has to be generated one way or another. Obtaining that power from the grid would be FAR less problematic than from the engines that run lawn mowers and leaf blowers, etc.
I've been charging my chainsaw batteries from my photovoltaic panels for many years. Battery powered chainsaws and landscaping tools are so much easier and quieter to use than those powered by a two-stroke engine. I've always got tool batteries charging on my solar array. Photovoltaic panels are cheap, and mine have paid themselves back several times since I purchased them 13 years ago.
California is already exceeding renewable energy standards among all states on their grid power, so this Deplorable talking point about charging batteries with coal power really only applies in certain Deplorable states. Deplorable states lag behind on every metric related to responsible civic action, so no surprise there. They fear progress, in the same way that they fear any substantial change or challenge to their fragile sense of self-worth.
Poor Deplorables, so many changes, so many tears...
California is already exceeding renewable energy standards among all states on their grid power, so this Deplorable talking point about charging batteries with coal power really only applies in certain Deplorable states. Deplorable states lag behind on every metric related to responsible civic action, so no surprise there. They fear progress, in the same way that they fear any substantial change or challenge to their fragile sense of self-worth.
Poor Deplorables, so many changes, so many tears...
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California can already provide 95% of their electricity from renewables. Well, in ideal conditions. That capacity has to be overbuild several times over the minimum need, plus grid storage. But the price for wind and solar are falling so fast, it may eventually be cheaper to further expand capacity than investing in storage. In the meantime, even at coal plant it's easier to control pollution than at a lawnmower.
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There is also the issue that those coal and gas plants have a certain baseline production that won't likely be impacted substantially by the added battery charging needed for those tools. Depending on when exactly they are being recharged, they might impact the peak power demands slightly, but still on a much smaller scale and overall impact than using the current gas powered engines for lawn equipment.
You might need to recheck yourself. On a cool fall day, Cali might be able to "create" a bit of their ginormous electricity demand from woke resources. In the heat of the summer? You should all thank New Mexico and Arizona for the their "dirty" supplies that keeps you all comfy, cool and posting about how clean you are.
Quit making fun of luk.
Not one of these sissies could respond to this directly nor did they have any answer for it.
Lawlz!
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Oh yeah, electricity is the ticket.
Don't ask yourself about where the raw battery materials come from
and how they are mined and what the cost is in pollution and human lives.
Similarly, don't worry at all about where the electricity comes from,
just keep telling yourself, "It's wind! It's solar! It's renewable!"
Meanwhile, I have eight acres.
I have to keep a bank of batteries charged to do my yard work
and that uses your magic fairy-tale unicorns, rainbows and Skittles™ electricity.
(And those batteries ain't cheap! )
And when those batteries go to die,
where do their toxins end up?
Most likely in the landfill with those fucking
mercury bulbs that were foisted upon us
with the understanding that we would
"hazmat' them after about 20 years.
I have trouble getting two years
before disposing them.
"Hazmat?" lol...
Don't ask yourself about where the raw battery materials come from
and how they are mined and what the cost is in pollution and human lives.
Similarly, don't worry at all about where the electricity comes from,
just keep telling yourself, "It's wind! It's solar! It's renewable!"
Meanwhile, I have eight acres.
I have to keep a bank of batteries charged to do my yard work
and that uses your magic fairy-tale unicorns, rainbows and Skittles™ electricity.
(And those batteries ain't cheap!
)And when those batteries go to die,
where do their toxins end up?
Most likely in the landfill with those fucking
mercury bulbs that were foisted upon us
with the understanding that we would
"hazmat' them after about 20 years.
I have trouble getting two years
before disposing them.
"Hazmat?" lol...
Champakian
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Meanwhile, the world over, the (RED) Greens have won the war against nuclear
so the plants are shutting down, but wind and solar aren't keeping up
so what is the world doing? Turning to coal and if you're lucky
natural gas. China even had to start accepting shipments
of Australian coal. Yeah, you're "winning" the war
on Climate Change! So much winning...
And have you seen the cost of the war on oil and pipelines at the pump
in the attempt to foist electricity upon us?
So much winning.
You'll get tired of so much winning...
so the plants are shutting down, but wind and solar aren't keeping up
so what is the world doing? Turning to coal and if you're lucky
natural gas. China even had to start accepting shipments
of Australian coal. Yeah, you're "winning" the war
on Climate Change! So much winning...
And have you seen the cost of the war on oil and pipelines at the pump
in the attempt to foist electricity upon us?
So much winning.
You'll get tired of so much winning...
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You're still mistaking liberals for leftist.
A sissy just skull fucked the ignorant meme.
Now what??
ShyBiGuy954
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*chuckles*
While I normally ignore the bi guy from Florida, who is looking for an "Alpha" cock to service, this one, just couldn't pass me by.
While I enjoy the run up to showing the carbon outputs used in making a Lithium Ion battery in the video, and the sideshow about creating the final grams/Kilometer, using the input carbon while making/charging the battery, anyone with a basic understanding of of this will just laugh.
Ok so let us look backwards, the fuel is given zero carbon emissions for production. IE that gallon of Diesel fuel didn't just appear at the fuel pump without generation carbon along the way. Except in this case, they ( the video producers) conveniently forget that, and in the end comparison that fuel showed up net zero at the pump....
Keep that fact in mind....next the vehicle they specified gets 28 miles to the gallon,( and we all know from experience the reality of the "Vehicles sticker millage claims vs reality when driven...) a gallon of #1 Diesel emits 22.38 pounds of carbon when ran through the combustion engine (#2 fuel is even worse)
But following through using the optimum millage (sticker not reality) we get .799 pounds of carbon emitted per mile, (362.42 grams/mile or 223.72/grams per Kilometre) you all can check the math, and check the number given by the video....
So while I freely admit both electric and conventional vehicles contribute to carbon gases released to the atmosphere, I dispute both numbers here, the electrics being too high, and the combustion numbers too low.
Still don't think for a second I am in favour of EV's, I am not.
As a transition to a Hydrogen fuelled future, they were a poor choice. Hydrogen can be burnt in a combustion engine, so why invent a completely new transportation engine, when in reality Hybrid gas/electric vehicles could be used as the bridge until we can reliably produce Hydrogen efficiently.
Hey SBG any luck on alpha cock these days, or have you just given up and only post ridiculous memes now.....
I thought hydrogen-fueled cars had proven impractical for some reason.
Of course, there are no natural sources on Earth of pure hydrogen. It's easy to extract hydrogen from water, but it requires an energy input, and that has to come from somewhere.
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