No more games

[SoBelle]

Surely to God there is at least one man here who is genuine? Intelligent, mature, Dominant, and looking for a real connection. I've been on this site for such a long time, and so far it's mainly populated by Neanderthals, married men looking for virtual thrills while their wife is sleeping, or out and out psychopaths.

Lonely, 58 year old female submissive in Florida, hoping that one nice guy will prove me wrong.

 

[ElliottEden]

Surely to God there is at least one man here who is genuine? Intelligent, mature, Dominant, and looking for a real connection. I've been on this site for such a long time, and so far it's mainly populated by Neanderthals, married men looking for virtual thrills while their wife is sleeping, or out and out psychopaths.

Lonely, 58 year old female submissive in Florida, hoping that one nice guy will prove me wrong.

One more to add to your list of degen males I think - married men whose wives have decided no more sex. How dare they eh?

 

[OxfordJack]

One more to add to your list of degen males I think - married men whose wives have decided no more sex. How dare they eh?

this...

 

[OxfordJack]

[,.........

 

[MissMandy86]

The doms here are shit ... just cause you call yourself a dom doesnt mean you are ... dominance and submission starts in the mind not between the legs

(Yeah ... i know you have experience but she moved to florida )
The dog ate my homework

 

[skirt_chaser]

Oh Lord. I feel you on this, and wish you really good luck. I have had the same problem myself over the years. I'm just looking for someone who is earnest, but that seems like a tall order.

As for the "oh my gosh, my wife won't have sex/doesn't follow my kinks" thing...Everyone says that. If I had a dime for every time someone said that, I would be loaded. Please allow me to play the world's tiniest violin.

Okay, I get you on this. But if men were being satisfied at home, they would not be here. Or paying prostitutes for satisfaction and pleasure.

 

[skirt_chaser]

Surely to God there is at least one man here who is genuine? Intelligent, mature, Dominant, and looking for a real connection. I've been on this site for such a long time, and so far it's mainly populated by Neanderthals, married men looking for virtual thrills while their wife is sleeping, or out and out psychopaths.

Lonely, 58 year old female submissive in Florida, hoping that one nice guy will prove me wrong.

Really, some good and meaningful conversation and making a connection would be nice. Making new friends and sharing together is great. Is that asking for too much? Anything more is like icing on the cake.

 

[YourgirlfriendLaura]

Exactly! Plenty of guys on here have a hard luck story but their path never involves being honest with wifey. Even putting in the work to get permission to play on this site, means a world of difference. I worked really hard to get my sexless husband to understand I NEEDED affection and physical touch because I am human. Yes, it took arguments and tears, and threats. I made clear it was to take sexual pressure off him and not because I wanted to leave. I don't see too many men trying to be honest like that. So, it is about earnestness, for some woman. Not a big deal that a man is horny, that is missing the point. Eh, some of us care but some dont.
Don't get down on us, just find a gal that does not care.

Oh Lord. I feel you on this, and wish you really good luck. I have had the same problem myself over the years. I'm just looking for someone who is earnest, but that seems like a tall order.

As for the "oh my gosh, my wife won't have sex/doesn't follow my kinks" thing...Everyone says that. If I had a dime for every time someone said that, I would be loaded. Please allow me to play the world's tiniest violin.

 

[ElliottEden]

Surely to God there is at least one man here who is genuine? Intelligent, mature, Dominant, and looking for a real connection. I've been on this site for such a long time, and so far it's mainly populated by Neanderthals, married men looking for virtual thrills while their wife is sleeping, or out and out psychopaths.

Lonely, 58 year old female submissive in Florida, hoping that one nice guy will prove me wrong.

Oh Lord. I feel you on this, and wish you really good luck. I have had the same problem myself over the years. I'm just looking for someone who is earnest, but that seems like a tall order.

As for the "oh my gosh, my wife won't have sex/doesn't follow my kinks" thing...Everyone says that. If I had a dime for every time someone said that, I would be loaded. Please allow me to play the world's tiniest violin.

Oh dear oh dear. Someone's found out that men are pigs. I think there's a Tim Allen schtick on that same subject.

And yes, while the ratio of individuals who have a Lit account trends higher on the male side there are a fair number of women who're doing the same thing. Getting a little aural or written intercourse on the side whilst the spouse is otherwise engaged. And of course there is also this...

The classic trope in many a sitcom or story - "men don't get in touch with their feelings" alongside the other hoary "men don't deal with what's going on in their lives" seems to be getting used liberally in this thread.

Here's the thing. While most men are pigs it's also true that most men don't want to hurt their significant others. And so the ever eternal balancing act; the small sin of getting a thrill by engaging in a role play with someone (hoping the gender does indeed match the billing) and keeping it quiet vs. sitting to supper and regaling all on the virtual humping that occurred earlier in the day.

Now the few who are actually sadists might get a bit of fun from that. But most men aren't sadists contrary to popular media portrayals.

In any event I wish you all luck in what you're seeking and I'm sincere in that. Life is too short and happiness is in too small a supply for far too many.

 

[zenwstick]

what do you expect?

The online world is a reflection of the real time world. Desperate people, phonies, liars, predators, whiners, etc live in both spaces. The Internet provides a way to escape or explore in ways most can't in real life. But it provides a space for assholes of both genders frankly.

I was on line in Compuserve and AOL BDSM chatrooms back in the 1980s and it was better then. People often met in real life. We had gatherings in Las Vegas. We were living the BDSM life and chatrooms was a way to be in that community. That was when BDSM and kinky living was more underground than it is today and the more it came out of the shadows the more it raised desires in people who had no clue how to be a Dom or sub.

There are people who here who actually have lived or are living BDSM lives, kinky lives, who practice the fetishes they talk about - real people of all ages and genders and unfortunately some of them are assholes too.

In Lit Chatroom recently I "listened in" on two submissive women making fun of men, of doms, basically engaging in their own fetish of castigation - as if their BDSM disposition was pure and true, as if they were nothing more than victims of so called Doms. I found it humorous and sad at the same time.

To find authentic people you have to wade through the sea of people on LIT and I too experience the frustration of that, but you surely won't find anyone authentic if all you do is whine and lament how bad it is for you here.

 

[nobodyridesforfree]

This paradigm shift is hard. Supposed to be that way when the tower card repeatedly appears.

The feeling that one has reached a seemingly impassable barrier falls away through some introspection and the upside is revealed. We all participate, at times, in our own obstacle to some degree. These times have tested us to show no one is invulnerable.

I get it. I used to get completely frustrated in just trying to get out of my own way, until I understood my archetype better. Still, we all need a reminding from time to time. A gentle expression holds the most power. Once realized, we can re-empower our Self again and carry on.

This is the only social media I acknowledge, and I'm captious about participating because of so much clutter in what seems to effectively be the worst case of mass disassociation in history. An endless repository for frustrated bytes of the myriad angst.

Be aware the continuous fraudulent push of the 'elixir,' and the deceitful expectations it conjures in us. However, the container may be useful. (a play on the material and upon humanity)

I'm grateful for a solid intellectual conversation in this unbalanced 3D illusion - on the rare occasion I'm presented with the opportunity.
It reinforces the affirmations I've made and that I'm remaining loyal to Me first.

Even more now, I feel we all believe ourselves to be the needle in the haystack looking for a needle in a haystack, and in a righteous sense.

Treat yourself right, be safe, be genuine & just Love yourself first. That's where your sustenance originates.
~Peace and ecstasy

"Description is revelation" - Wallace Stevens

 

[ewwboss]

It's tough.

 

[YourgirlfriendLaura]

Wow, Belle,
Look at all these long, wordy answers! Is the point that you should take what you do not want? That seems silly to me. To some of these posters, yeah, some guys can be pigs. Ok,cool. Not new info. But why should the OP or anyone force herself, as an example, to help someone cheat on his wife if she does not want too? Keep reaching for the right guy! I'm surprised men are getting riled at this. Should we force men who write they want a "deep connection" with a busty young girl, they can have a "total power exchange" with to take on a small breasted, bossy, middle aged woman, then?

 

[nobodyridesforfree]

yep

Wow, Belle,
Look at all these long, wordy answers! Is the point that you should take what you do not want? That seems silly to me. To some of these posters, yeah, some guys can be pigs. Ok,cool. Not new info. But why should the OP or anyone force herself, as an example, to help someone cheat on his wife if she does not want too? Keep reaching for the right guy! I'm surprised men are getting riled at this. Should we force men who write they want a "deep connection" with a busty young girl, they can have a "total power exchange" with to take on a small breasted, bossy, middle aged woman, then?

"If you Love the written word" .. .

 

[YourgirlfriendLaura]

Nobody, Not sure if you are insulting me or complimenting me.

 

[nobodyridesforfree]

Nobody, Not sure if you are insulting me or complimenting me.

Ah ... more objectivity
Bring on the intellectualism!

 

[RoperTrace]

Oh dear oh dear. Someone's found out that men are pigs. I think there's a Tim Allen schtick on that same subject.

And yes, while the ratio of individuals who have a Lit account trends higher on the male side there are a fair number of women who're doing the same thing. Getting a little aural or written intercourse on the side whilst the spouse is otherwise engaged. And of course there is also this...



In any event I wish you all luck in what you're seeking and I'm sincere in that. Life is too short and happiness is in too small a supply for far too many.

Touche.

 

[nobodyridesforfree]

is this still a thing ?
peeps getting upset cause someone vented some frustration?

my mother used to tell me 'if you didn't have anything good to say...'
the horror .. .

 

[nobodyridesforfree]

and points for Your

 

[YourgirlfriendLaura]

Huh?

I am neither trying to be objective or intellectual, particularly. I was just asking a question in a friendly way. If you want some deep convo, then state it.

QUOTE=nobodyridesforfree;94312971]Ah ... more objectivity
Bring on the intellectualism! [/QUOTE]

 

[YourgirlfriendLaura]

Who gets the points?.....wait, am I "Your?" You are playing 3d chess, while I am playing Chutes and Ladders, friend.

QUOTE=nobodyridesforfree;94313468]and points for Your[/QUOTE]

 

[RoperTrace]

Who gets the points?.....wait, am I "Your?" You are playing 3d chess, while I am playing Chutes and Ladders, friend.

QUOTE=nobodyridesforfree;94313468]and points for Your

[/QUOTE]
My five-year-old granddaughter used to destroy me with Chutes and Ladders.

 

[nobodyridesforfree]

some clarity

I am neither trying to be objective or intellectual, particularly. I was just asking a question in a friendly way. If you want some deep convo, then state it.

QUOTE=nobodyridesforfree;94312971]Ah ... more objectivity
Bring on the intellectualism!

[/QUOTE]

Gotchya. Ok, as an observation, you have shown to be both in responding to SoBelle, please do not misunderstand.
I was just commenting in a friendly way, you know - with a smiley.

I did state to bring on the intellectualism, and (Your) door is closed. But I get it.

 

[nobodyridesforfree]

more clarity?

Who gets the points?.....wait, am I "Your?" You are playing 3d chess, while I am playing Chutes and Ladders, friend.

QUOTE=nobodyridesforfree;94313468]and points for Your

[/QUOTE]

Yes, If I am 'Nobody', then you are 'Your' -and the points are Yours

 

[YourgirlfriendLaura]

Great game!

Chutes and Ladders and Snakes and Ladders are both great. Not knocking them at all.
My five-year-old granddaughter used to destroy me with Chutes and Ladders.[/QUOTE]