It is sometimes tacitly assumed that artists and fiction writers and musicians have some kind of influence over the political zeitgeist. It seems to me that they merely react to it and comment upon it -- the roots of any changes lie elsewhere.
Does art really affect politics?
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Some art does e.g. Picasso's Guernica.
Some cartoons can by pointing out the fallibility of politicians.
Politician's reactions to art can be more than the artist intended e.g. the Nazis banning all non-Aryan art and burning books they disapproved of.
But most art? Probably not.
Some cartoons can by pointing out the fallibility of politicians.
Politician's reactions to art can be more than the artist intended e.g. the Nazis banning all non-Aryan art and burning books they disapproved of.
But most art? Probably not.
That called attention to the brutality of the Nationalist side in the Spanish Civil War -- but the Nationalists won it anyway.
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I'm fairly certain no Communist painted that.
There is such thing as Communist art -- see socialist realism -- but it is doubtful whether its existence ever made any political difference. But at least it left a legacy in the stations of the Moscow Metro, probably the prettiest subway system in the world.
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That subway probably has human bones mixed in with the concrete.
More art to make Peck smile:
https://i.imgur.com/TGtAw8ol.jpg
That subway probably has human bones mixed in with the concrete.
More art to make Peck smile:
https://i.imgur.com/TGtAw8ol.jpg
But, again, how did the existence of this sort of thing actually make any political difference?
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To a certain extent I think it's rather obvious.
This is why propaganda comes in such artistic forms as posters, movies, song and dance, food even.
Politics is downstream of culture.
This is why propaganda comes in such artistic forms as posters, movies, song and dance, food even.
Politics is downstream of culture.
There was a lot of anti-Vietnam-War art in the 1960s and '70s -- but the government did not end the war until it was damned good and ready to end it, for its own reasons.
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It had an entire population of enslaved people marching happily arm in arm into the sunsets of 69 years of failure and death.
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Not all propaganda campaigns are successful.
Doesn't mean the obvious, preferred and most effective format for promoting their political ideals and values was cultural.
Culture drives politics.
Always has and likely always will.
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Absolutely it does. CS Lewis illustrated this brilliantly in "That Hideous Strength."
Was the art strictly necessary to that purpose?
That story certainly had no effect on politics.
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Watching Fauci and the CDC these days, I'm reminded constantly of the machinations of NICE.
That means you are an idiot. It does not mean anything else.
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Uh-huh. Every day shows Lewis was a prophet in that series.
Hard to believe, based on the first two books.
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It was propaganda and brainwash a little less sophisticated than what the DNC employs against Americans today.
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The question is over their intellect level. Now...break out the crayons and watch them fight over that
Haven't seen much art of any kind come out of the DNC, apart from the campaign posters and such both parties use.
Come to think of it, there aren't even campaign songs any more. There was a time when that was routine, at least at the presidential level -- I once heard Garrison Keillor do a retrospective on them.
The DNC does have a convention song, "Don't Stop Thinking About Tomorrow," always played during the final balloon-drop -- but I think "Time Is on My Side" would be a better choice.
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Politics effects art and culture.
Obviously. But, does it work the other way?
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Sure. It's a cycle.
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