Texas Federal Judge Federal Judge denies Biden request

[BabyBoomer50s]

Federal judge denies Justice Department request for expedited hearing on Texas abortion law.

https://news.yahoo.com/federal-judge-denies-justice-department-201700804.html

 

[adrina]

Are you celebrating with your coat hangers yet?

 

[ll74]

I expected this. Courts are still waiting for the lawsuits to be filed on behalf of the law, before they can appropriately rule...this just buys them time.

I can't wait for Oregon to enact a similar law regarding guns or immigrants.

Wild wild west, y'all

 

[Champakian]

https://reason.com/2021/09/17/the-j...ning-argument-against-the-texas-abortion-law/

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Are you celebrating with your coat hangers yet?

No, they are in the closet with the coats.

 

[adrina]

No, they are in the closet with the coats.

Get 'em ready. You can paint them red and wave them around when the images of dead women from back alley abortions start showing up. You can make a Bloody Mary and toast yourself for your superior morality.

 

[ll74]

https://reason.com/2021/09/17/the-j...ning-argument-against-the-texas-abortion-law/

I was told that this administration was incompetent, so this can't be right

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

I expected this. Courts are still waiting for the lawsuits to be filed on behalf of the law, before they can appropriately rule...this just buys them time.

I can't wait for Oregon to enact a similar law regarding guns or immigrants.

Wild wild west, y'all

Your probably right. Merrick Garland’s effort was more of a symbolic show of support for the base. The DOJ case will eventually be heard though. The Dobbs case (Mississippi) is still the big one to watch. When all is said and done, the US appears to be moving closer to Europe where 47 out of 50 European countries limit elective abortion to 15 weeks or earlier.

 

[ll74]

Your probably right. Merrick Garland’s effort was more of a symbolic show of support for the base. The DOJ case will eventually be heard though. The Dobbs case (Mississippi) is still the big one to watch. When all is said and done, the US appears to be moving closer to Europe where 47 out of 50 European countries limit elective abortion to 15 weeks or earlier.

Garland's case has merit, as was posted just above. The law is stupid and should be rejected as the bullshit it is.

Pro lifers don't care about the merits of the law... they're just wanting SCOTUS to reevaluate the legality of abortion. These laws are shit and until they can address the undue burden of the woman, I have hope that they will all be struck down

 

[BidudeinWi]

Your probably right. Merrick Garland’s effort was more of a symbolic show of support for the base. The DOJ case will eventually be heard though. The Dobbs case (Mississippi) is still the big one to watch. When all is said and done, the US appears to be moving closer to Europe where 47 out of 50 European countries limit elective abortion to 15 weeks or earlier.

So glad Garland got cock-blocked by Mitchell! Obluiabd Garland are whiney little bitches!

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Get 'em ready. You can paint them red and wave them around when the images of dead women from back alley abortions start showing up. You can make a Bloody Mary and toast yourself for your superior morality.

Nah. Not into Bloody Marys. More of a bourbon drinker. FWIW, by this time next year, the TX law will be blocked and SCOTUS will likely establish 15 weeks as the law of the land. So more like most European countries

 

[adrina]

Nah. Not into Bloody Marys. More of a bourbon drinker. FWIW, by this time next year, the TX law will be blocked and SCOTUS will likely establish 15 weeks as the law of the land. So more like most European countries

Yup... gotta make those women carry those dead fetuses to term! Yeehaw!

Bunch of hysterical idiots legislating something they couldn't pass a basic test on.

 

[adrina]

Nah. Not into Bloody Marys. More of a bourbon drinker. FWIW, by this time next year, the TX law will be blocked and SCOTUS will likely establish 15 weeks as the law of the land. So more like most European countries

By the way, if we want to use the Eurppean model as an example I would welcome it.

You, however, would find it far too permissive.

You should spend some time researching (like all of you ignorant hysterical fools) the actual law that you are trying to use to support your obsessive idiocy.

https://reproductiverights.org/european-abortion-law-comparative-overview-0/

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Nah. Not into Bloody Marys. More of a bourbon drinker. FWIW, by this time next year, the TX law will be blocked and SCOTUS will likely establish 15 weeks as the law of the land. So more like most European countries

So what you're saying is that SCOTUS will be doing more legislating from the bench.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

So what you're saying is that SCOTUS will be doing more legislating from the bench.

If the modify Roe, yes. If they overturn it completely (as they should), no. Given the Court’s make up and Roberts obsession with institutional appearances, my guess is the former. The Mississippi law is 15 weeks and I’m betting that gets upheld.

That would still be more liberal than the 12 week period in France and Switzerland, but less conservative than the current Texas law.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

If the modify Roe, yes. If they overturn it completely (as they should), no. Given the Court’s make up and Roberts obsession with institutional appearances, my guess is the former. The Mississippi law is 15 weeks and I’m betting that gets upheld.

That would still be more liberal than the 12 week period in France and Switzerland, but less conservative than the current Texas law.

My point is that all of the laws are constitutional, and SCOTUS shouldn't be deciding on 12 weeks, 15 weeks, one, two or three trimesters. That's not their job, but the job of the legislature of each state.

 

[Rightguide]

Are you celebrating with your coat hangers yet?

Stop with the hysteria.

 

[adrina]

That would still be more liberal than the 12 week period in France and Switzerland, but less conservative than the current Texas law.

A font of conservative misinformation.

It's like you guys have a steady diet of it.

Here, for the ignorant:

Abortion in Switzerland is legal during the first twelve weeks of pregnancy, upon condition of counseling, for women who state that they are in distress. It is also legal with medical indications – threat of severe physical or psychological damage to the woman – at any later time.

Legal abortions are now covered by Switzerland's universal healthcare system.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Switzerland#cite_note-1

Abortion in France is legal on demand up to 12 weeks after conception (14 weeks after the last menstrual period).[1] Abortions at later stages of pregnancy are allowed if two physicians certify that the abortion will be done to prevent grave permanent injury to the physical or mental health of the pregnant woman; a risk to the life of the pregnant woman; or that the child will suffer from a particularly severe illness recognized as incurable.

Since 1982, much of the costs of abortions are taken in charge by the French social security system.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_France

The reality is that you support neither. Yet quote them as if you would like to have it be the law of the land in the US.

Just another ignorant hysterical conservative regurgitating talking points.

 

[adrina]

Stop with the hysteria.

What... a bit too pointed for your delicate sensitivities? I have no interest in sugar coating the results of your obsession. If you can't handle the reality, get the hell out of the kitchen and quit being obsessed about something you are ignorant about.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

My point is that all of the laws are constitutional, and SCOTUS shouldn't be deciding on 12 weeks, 15 weeks, one, two or three trimesters. That's not their job, but the job of the legislature of each state.

I get it and agree. I think Roe should be overturned and state legislatures should make their own laws. But my gut tells me they will instead find a way to preserve Roe while upholding the Mississippi law.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

A font of conservative misinformation.

It's like you guys have a steady diet of it.

Here, for the ignorant:





https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Switzerland#cite_note-1







https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_France

The reality is that you support neither. Yet quote them as if you would like to have it be the law of the land in the US.

Just another ignorant hysterical conservative regurgitating talking points.

As your Wikipedia copy and pasting confirms, 12 weeks is the law in France and Switzerland. Yes, there are exceptions, and there will likely be in the US as well, but my prediction is 15 weeks will be the new threshold that emerges from the Dobbs decision next year. A more liberal threshold than the current TX law, but more conservative than France and Switzerland.

 

[adrina]

As your Wikipedia copy and pasting confirms, 12 weeks is the law in France and Switzerland. Yes, there are exceptions, and there will likely be in the US as well, but my prediction is 15 weeks will be the new threshold that emerges from the Dobbs decision next year. A more liberal threshold than the current TX law, but more conservative than France and Switzerland.

12 weeks "on demand" ( ) with exceptions for the health of the mother, the health status of the fetus at any time after 12 weeks and paid for by the government.

That's what you are advocating for. If that's how you honestly think about abortion and appropriate policy - you and I agree. However we know you don't. You think you are holding it up as an example of anti-abortion policy but we all know you wouldn't and don't agree with it.

 

[CornusKousa]

I love how much democracy in Texas upsets a bunch of leftist who don't live in Texas.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

I love how much democracy in Texas upsets a bunch of leftist who don't live in Texas.

How can we have democracy if we don't let a gaggle of unelected, unaccountable judges decide everything for us, CK?

 

[CornusKousa]

How can we have democracy if we don't let a gaggle of unelected, unaccountable judges decide everything for us, CK?

I don't know especially when "Democracy" is CLEARLY defined as Democrats getting their way all the time in all jurisdictions, especially the ones where republicans have won most of if not all the elections.