You're a fool if you think Trump would have handled Afghanistan any better

[pecksniff]

We've seen Trump's "plan" and Biden's actions dissected over and over on this board. Really, there's no reason to think Trump could have done better. He never could do anything efficiently, nor listen or delegate to those who could.

 

[RoryN]

Nobody believes that, Deplorables included.

They'll lie and say they do, though.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Trump is good at lying, hyperbole and conning people out of money/ labour.

Anyone who voted for him has a strong retard genome.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

We've seen Trump's "plan" and Biden's actions dissected over and over on this board. Really, there's no reason to think Trump could have done better. He never could do anything efficiently, nor listen or delegate to those who could.

If he executed along the lines that the plan called out, it would have been head and shoulders better than this dementia-driven shit-show.

 

[butters]

https://imgur.com/gallery/tyvU1Kb

 

[CornusKousa]

This is clearly just a deflection away from the fact that he wouldn't have done any worse either.

 

[butters]

https://imgur.com/gallery/83eb84f

 

[Philthy_Phil]

This is clearly just a deflection away from the fact that he wouldn't have done any worse either.

How could he? Well, he probably could have but thankfully we will never know.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

There's some perverse symmetry to Grandpa Diddlefingers abandoning Afghan women to the mercies of a gang of rapists like the Talibs.

 

[Lazaran]

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I never heard anybody refer to Donald "grab em' by the pussy" Trump as "Grandpa Diddlefimgers" before, but I guess that works too.

And abandoning women is kinda the traitor in chief's whole thing.

*nods*

 

[Cubantripod]

Trump is good at lying, hyperbole and conning people out of money/ labour.

Anyone who voted for him has a strong retard genome.

People like you gave us Trump with 50 years of bad policies. You can't stand on your record, so you attack the voters. You should see someone about your Stockholm Syndrome.

 

[CornusKousa]

How could he? Well, he probably could have but thankfully we will never know.

He couldn't, Biden fucked up about as bad as it gets.

 

[Wrong Element]

We've seen Trump's "plan" and Biden's actions dissected over and over on this board. Really, there's no reason to think Trump could have done better. He never could do anything efficiently, nor listen or delegate to those who could.

You can't prove a hypothetical, but personally I'm not sure Trump would have been able to go through with his stated policy of withdrawal. I don't think it escaped the attention of the Trump White House that the best reviews he got from the media during his whole presidency came from 1) the air strikes in Syria and 2) killing the Iranian general. And you can see how much the White House and Pentagon press corps hate the idea of any war ever ending.

I think he would have escalated (which he would have had to do because the Taliban wasn't going to keep biding its time), and everyone would have conveniently forgotten he had promised to do just the opposite.

 

[Lazaran]

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The CUbaNTripod still hasn't figured out that Phil is Canadian.

JFC

SAD!!!

 

[Bud_Spencer]

He couldn't, Biden fucked up about as bad as it gets.

I posted a CFR article on Trump's plan yesterday, and it had all the things that Pompeio and others have asserted: Milestone goals and conditions for proceeding. Biden obviously jettisoned that plan, but where was his? Did it call for the insane sequence of events we saw that last couple of weeks? According to him, yes, things went according to that plan.

So Biden planned on ditching thousands of Americans in theater, billions in materiel for the Talibs and utter abandonment of the Afghan Army.

This was all intended.

 

[Dribble]

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The CUbaNTripod still hasn't figured out that Phil is Canadian.

JFC

SAD!!!

A Canuck that understands how our Government works better than the cuban

 

[LincolnDuncan]

We've seen Trump's "plan" and Biden's actions dissected over and over on this board. Really, there's no reason to think Trump could have done better. He never could do anything efficiently, nor listen or delegate to those who could.

Trump always has a scapegoat. No matter how badly it went, it would have been someone else's fault, the generals, enlisted, prior presidents, future presidents, CNN, BLM, ANTIFA

 

[rae121452]

that's the whole thing, in a nutshell, isn't it? ANYONE who believes (t-word) could handle anything except a resisting woman's pussy is majorly a fool.

 

[BidudeinWi]

We've seen Trump's "plan" and Biden's actions dissected over and over on this board. Really, there's no reason to think Trump could have done better. He never could do anything efficiently, nor listen or delegate to those who could.

Where the hell do you socialist fucktards come up with this shit. Trump had a conditional withdrawal plan. It included keeping the Air Force base until everyone and the equipment was out of Afghanistan then destroying the runways, pulling the $60+ BILLION in military equipment out, and finally, if the Taliban didn’t live up to their end of the deal, hitting them hard from the air, like he’s previously done to them. (And Syria.)

Obama (who’s really running things) to Dementia Joe to shitcan Trumps plan, so he did. To think otherwise you have to ignore the FACTS, Asshole!

You voted for the fuckbag, you own this shitshow!

 

[LincolnDuncan]

Where the hell do you socialist fucktards come up with this shit. Trump had a conditional withdrawal plan. It included keeping the Air Force base until everyone and the equipment was out of Afghanistan then destroying the runways, pulling the $60+ BILLION in military equipment out, and finally, if the Taliban didn’t live up to their end of the deal, hitting them hard from the air, like he’s previously done to them. (And Syria.)

Obama (who’s really running things) to Dementia Joe to shitcan Trumps plan, so he did. To think otherwise you have to ignore the FACTS, Asshole!

You voted for the fuckbag, you own this shitshow!

socialists or commies, make up your mind

 

[Lazaran]

You can't prove a hypothetical, but personally I'm not sure Trump would have been able to go through with his stated policy of withdrawal. I don't think it escaped the attention of the Trump White House that the best reviews he got from the media during his whole presidency came from 1) the air strikes in Syria and 2) killing the Iranian general. And you can see how much the White House and Pentagon press corps hate the idea of any war ever ending.

I think he would have escalated (which he would have had to do because the Taliban wasn't going to keep biding its time), and everyone would have conveniently forgotten he had promised to do just the opposite.

There are already reports surfacing that the traitor in chief never planned on leaving Afghanistan. Realistically, the only way to stay would have required a massive surge of troops and additional revenue, given the Taliban's gains in the wake of the "Doha deal".

I have zero doubt that the crusading military industrial complex arm of the Republican Party was salivating over the prospect of escalating the conflict in Afghanistan when the Taliban inevitably acted like the Taliban, and continued to consolidate their gains.

I also suspect the "Doha deal" ,which excluded the Afghan government, was designed to fail so that there would be an excuse for surging troops and spending more money. Who really believed that releasing 5,000 Taliban leaders and fighters from prison and drawing down the U.S. military presence from 13,500 to 2500 wouldn't result in exactly what happened.

GMAFB

 

[butters]

There are already reports surfacing that the traitor in chief never planned on leaving Afghanistan. Realistically, the only way to stay would have required a massive surge of troops and additional revenue, given the Taliban's gains in the wake of the "Doha deal".

I have zero doubt that the crusading military industrial complex arm of the Republican Party was salivating over the prospect of escalating the conflict in Afghanistan when the Taliban inevitably acted like the Taliban, and continued to consolidate their gains.

I also suspect the "Doha deal" ,which excluded the Afghan government, was designed to fail so that there would be an excuse for surging troops and spending more money. Who really believed that releasing 5,000 Taliban leaders and fighter from prison and drawing down the U.S. military presence from 13,500 to 2500 wouldn't result in exactly what happened.

GMAFB

and attacks on americans/american property (especially by those pesky brown skinned peeps) is a sure-fire way to get the backing of usa citizens to unite against the threat...he was probably hoping that, if it all blew up in someone else's face it wouldn't be his (literally) but he could ride the wave of patriotism right into an extended presidency, given he already believed he was winning that second term.

 

[RobDownSouth]

This is clearly just a deflection away from the fact that he wouldn't have done any worse either.

Snowfrake can rationalize ANYTHING. ^^^^^

 

[pecksniff]

People like you gave us Trump with 50 years of bad policies.

Such as?

 

[Adre]

Nobody does hypocrisy like these guys do hypocrisy.

House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) and other GOP lawmakers on Tuesday scolded the Biden administration for agreeing to a timeline with the Taliban for withdrawing U.S. troops from Afghanistan.

But none of them mentioned that this was former President Donald Trump’s plan ― and that they supported it when it was his idea or simply said nothing.