Bob Dylan accused of, and being sued for, sexual assault

[RoryN]

https://pagesix.com/2021/08/16/bob-dylan-sued-for-allegedly-sexually-abusing-12-year-old-in-1965/

The alleged abuse by the now-81-year-old “Like a Rolling Stone” singer and songwriter occurred multiple times, and some of the incidents took place at the famed Chelsea Hotel, the suit claims.

 

[rae121452]

in 1965. and with a drugged out 12 year old.

 

[Biggs_Darklighter]

Nobody is gonna understand his testimony.

 

[RoryN]

Nobody is gonna understand his testimony.

The ants are his friends.

 

[PaxNurgle]

Geez, what is it, like sixty years ago now? Who cares!! Not saying it wasn't wrong at the time, but...sixty years later someone brings this crap up??

I'm not gonna pass judgement on this either way.

 

[Delawareguy]

I knew there was a reason why I never liked his singing.

But 60 years later? I think it's a bit late to be complaining about his behavior and how it ruined your life. Did she just suddenly realize that her long life wasn't fulfilling enough and HE must be the reason for it? If I was his lawyer I would make the claim that she lived as long as she has BECAUSE of what he did. Who can say that's not the case?

BUT, He is still a lousy singer. Let's hang him for that instead.

 

[RoryN]

BUT, He is still a lousy singer. Let's hang him for that instead.

Caring about how lousy Dylan is as a signer is like caring about how lousy Elvis was at knitting a sweater.

No one cares - he's a songwriter.

 

[rae121452]

the first thing they need to ascertain is how often in the intervening years she's bragged to friends, 'hey, you guys, i fucked bob dylan.'

 

[FataMorgana]

Caring about how lousy Dylan is as a signer is like caring about how lousy Elvis was at knitting a sweater.

No one cares - he's a songwriter.

Exactly. And like Leonard Cohen, no matter what you think of their voices, to write pure poetry like that they have the god given right to fucking sing it.

By the way, Elvis was more adept at crochet.

 

[rockcasbah]

Rory’s next thread:” Adam sues snake for alienation of affection.”

 

[girlsmiley]

the first thing they need to ascertain is how often in the intervening years she's bragged to friends, 'hey, you guys, i fucked bob dylan.'

Seriously, you are sick.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Who talks like this about a 12 year old girl?


A disgusting fucking sicko, that's who.

 

[rockcasbah]

I didnt read the link… Rory’s going underage now?

 

[girlsmiley]

I didnt read the link… Rory’s going underage now?

Apparently Bob Dylan molested a little girl back in the day.

Not sure this thread'll last.

 

[Biggs_Darklighter]

the first thing they need to ascertain is how often in the intervening years she's bragged to friends, 'hey, you guys, i fucked bob dylan.'

1,643,821 times.

 

[Wrong Element]

And yet, my lawsuit against his "Christian phase" is still hung up in the system...



But seriously: I understand this is not a criminal investigation, but the passage of time would seem to make this almost impossible to prove. Is it unthinkable, though? Dylan was a massive jerk in 1965-66, prior to his accident, and definitely at the peak of his acting-like-a-rock-star period, so I can't say no.

 

[rockcasbah]

Apparently Bob Dylan molested a little girl back in the day.

Not sure this thread'll last.

Woody Allen is making a Bob Dylan romcom!

 

[spacekowboy]

And yet, my lawsuit against his "Christian phase" is still hung up in the system...



But seriously: I understand this is not a criminal investigation, but the passage of time would seem to make this almost impossible to prove. Is it unthinkable, though? Dylan was a massive jerk in 1965-66, prior to his accident, and definitely at the peak of his acting-like-a-rock-star period, so I can't say no.

That's pretty much my thoughts on it. It doesn't seem like it's on brand for him but you never know with these things. Unless a Cosby-esque slew of victims comes forward with corroborating evidence I'm not sure how this sticks or if it even happened the way the plaintiff claims it happened. If it did then yeah, the piper must get paid and I'll have no sympathy for the cat. It will suck that his art will be tainted if that is the case. I'm not the type that can separate the art from the man in that sort of case. It's why I can't listen to Michael Jackson or Ted Nugent.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

That's pretty much my thoughts on it. It doesn't seem like it's on brand for him but you never know with these things. Unless a Cosby-esque slew of victims comes forward with corroborating evidence I'm not sure how this sticks or if it even happened the way the plaintiff claims it happened. If it did then yeah, the piper must get paid and I'll have no sympathy for the cat. It will suck that his art will be tainted if that is the case. I'm not the type that can separate the art from the man in that sort of case. It's why I can't listen to Michael Jackson or Ted Nugent.

I've never owned albums by either for that reason and never owned a Dylan because he bores me to tears.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

That's pretty much my thoughts on it. It doesn't seem like it's on brand for him but you never know with these things. Unless a Cosby-esque slew of victims comes forward with corroborating evidence I'm not sure how this sticks or if it even happened the way the plaintiff claims it happened. If it did then yeah, the piper must get paid and I'll have no sympathy for the cat. It will suck that his art will be tainted if that is the case. I'm not the type that can separate the art from the man in that sort of case. It's why I can't listen to Michael Jackson or Ted Nugent.

They say all your faves are problematic, it's just a question of what you're willing to tolerate or compromise for their craft. But the age of celebrity and "heroes" being able to live in an era that allowed to get away with discretions and hide their past skeletons in the closet is virtually over now. For the best.

I've never owned albums by either for that reason and never owned a Dylan because he bores me to tears.

Nothing against the cat in general, but I really only listen to him when someone plays his "Best Of" on my go-to dive bar's juke. And that's not that often!

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Everybody must get boned.

 

[butters]

https://pagesix.com/2021/08/16/bob-dylan-sued-for-allegedly-sexually-abusing-12-year-old-in-1965/

if he did this, he would have been 27 to her 12; music aside, that would mean sexual assault/rape, effectively, and ALL the blame is on him, even the act of plying someone her age with drink and drugs. at her alleged age, she is absolutely not to blame, the adult is.

reading the article, it would seem she's prompted to sue now as a last minute legal act to bring her accusations: the article states she brought her case on the eve of the closure of the 'look back' window which had allowed victims to file against historic acts of abuse.

if she ever "boasted" about it to her young friends, that does not negate one whit that what he's alleged to have done is ALL ON HIM.

i don't think some people realise just how long it can take a survivor to come forward, particularly when their claim is almost impossible to prove and history shows (think kavanaugh's accuser) the shit people have to go through when they do.

to those who say 'why bring this up now??? why not let dead dogs lie?', they need to look deeper into the human psyche. most abuses ARE swept under the carpet (historically), and the victim often only ever wants to block it all out. later, after years and years of emotional issues, they sometimes find the courage--or simply get mad enough--to point the finger of blame, even knowing they may never be believed.
perhaps she just got sick of seeing him lauded like some musical god when she knows what he did to her; who knows if he did it to others? none of us, at the moment. i hope it's not true, but if it is he needs to be held accountable before he dies...the truth will out.

of course, as always, there will be those out to make money by accusing when nothing's happened...and those should be prosecuted with as much vigour, imo.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

I fucking lol'd way too much.

 

[butters]

another facet of 'why now?'...

Finally, a chance at justice
The Child Victims’ Act, which went into effect August 2019, opened up a year-long window for adult survivors of child sexual abuse to file claims against their perpetrators, regardless of when the crimes occurred. The law also changed the statute of limitations for civil sexual abuse claims, allowing any survivor to file suit until the age of 55 when the previous cut-off age was 23.

The law’s so-called “look-back window” ends Saturday.

“So many adults had been abused as children and had no recourse because of the punitively short statute of limitations,” State Sen. Brad Hoylman (D-Manhattan), who spent years pushing for the bill’s passage as a sponsor, told The Post.

“If you were a child that was abused, if you didn’t file a claim by the age of 23 you had no recourse civil or criminal. So that injustice was perpetrated year after year.”

The law’s look-back window was extended for an additional year because of the COVID-19 pandemic and since it took effect, more than 9,000 survivors of childhood abuse across the state have been able to sue their perpetrators and the institutions that protected them.

https://nypost.com/2021/08/13/child...8.1574160133.1629248431-1361752643.1629248431

 

[rae121452]

and then again, there's this:

Bob Dylan Sells Songwriting Catalog For A Reported $300M ...
https://www.npr.org/2020/12/07/943818966

Dec 07, 2020 · Nearly 60 years after writing such counterculture classics as "Blowin' in the Wind" and "Like a Rolling Stone," Bob Dylan has sold his entire songwriting catalog — more than 600 songs …

Estimated Reading Time: 2 mins

 

[silver gurl]

I am guessing, he probably does not even remember the event.