Case Study - Socialism Vs Capitolism

[ShyBiGuy954]

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[ll74]

- capitalism not captolism

 

[ShyBiGuy954]

As usual, a nothing post from you.

 

[ll74]

As usual, a nothing post from you.

As usual, a nothing thread from you.

Spelling affects meaning. A building versus an economic/political system.

 

[phrodeau]

North Korea looks just like Texas in February.

 

[ll74]

North Korea looks just like Texas in February.

I'm sure from space, but not from Cancun.....right Ted Cruz?

 

[CornusKousa]

North Korea looks just like Texas in February.

But not Texas at any other time.

Natural disasters =/= economic system of nearly 70 years of total failure.

But I understand how much it hurts to see your beloved ideas demonstrated as failures.

Just keep pretending N. Korea isn't any worse off than Texas.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

*chuckles*

You can't even spell at a fourth grade level, but you claim college education...
You can't debate facts, so you need to link memes which are done at a fourth grade level....

So you getting anyone to fuck your ass yet?
Found any Alpha males to kneel down before yet?

*chuckles* I doubt yes will be your answer...***** is the shits for those uneducated Trump followers.....

 

[CornusKousa]

*chuckles*

You can't even spell at a fourth grade level, but you claim college education...
You can't debate facts, so you need to link memes which are done at a fourth grade level....

So you getting anyone to fuck your ass yet?
Found any Alpha males to kneel down before yet?

*chuckles* I doubt yes will be your answer...***** is the shits for those uneducated Trump followers.....

You screaming at the clouds again???

Sad.

 

[oggbashan]

Noth Korea is not socialist. It is a corrupt regime run by a series of dictators.

For Socialism versus capitalism perhaps a better example is the UK post-1945 under a Labour Government. They thought state ownership of industries and a command economy was best, ignoring the example of the US during and after WW2 when the US economy prospered and workers earned more. They thought the USSR had the right ideas, ignoring the fact that 18 million Russian civilians died, not from enemy action, but from the governments' own incompetence.

 

[CornusKousa]

Noth Korea is not socialist.

Yes, it is.

It is a corrupt regime run by a series of dictators.

Just like most socialist shit holes.

The state still owns the means and controls the distribution, it's 100% definitively socialist.

For Socialism versus capitalism perhaps a better example is the UK post-1945 under a Labour Government. They thought state ownership of industries and a command economy was best, ignoring the example of the US during and after WW2 when the US economy prospered and workers earned more. They thought the USSR had the right ideas, ignoring the fact that 18 million Russian civilians died, not from enemy action, but from the governments' own incompetence.

Another socialist shit hole run by corrupt regimes and dictators.

 

[pecksniff]

Noth Korea is not socialist. It is a corrupt regime run by a series of dictators.

For Socialism versus capitalism perhaps a better example is the UK post-1945 under a Labour Government. They thought state ownership of industries and a command economy was best, ignoring the example of the US during and after WW2 when the US economy prospered and workers earned more. They thought the USSR had the right ideas, ignoring the fact that 18 million Russian civilians died, not from enemy action, but from the governments' own incompetence.

AIUI, Thatcher denationalized everything previously nationalized. How did that work out?

 

[Cubantripod]

We don't have to debate this. The 20th century was a case study on this. Capitalism won.

 

[oggbashan]

We don't have to debate this. The 20th century was a case study on this. Capitalism won.

Capitalism also won WW2. Germany, Japan, and the USSR tried to outproduce the US (and UK) on the basis of state-controlled bureaucratic monopolies. They failed miserably. the USSR only produced as much as they did by killing 18 million of its own people.

 

[OldJourno]

AIUI, Thatcher denationalized everything previously nationalized. How did that work out?

Well, the weekly strikes stopped. The economy improved markedly.
It wasn't total. In a few rural areas, I've read there are more government jobs than productive private sector jobs.
Sean will whine that England was about to find the greatness of socialism.
Margaret Thatcher set them back a few decades.

 

[WillJ8787]

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Oh, why a case study! How bought some pictograms?

 

[RoryN]

Socialism Vs Capitolism

^^^
Not a typo - a mistake made by an uneducated dolt. LOL

 

[YDB95]

For Socialism versus capitalism perhaps a better example is the UK post-1945 under a Labour Government. They thought state ownership of industries and a command economy was best, ignoring the example of the US during and after WW2 when the US economy prospered and workers earned more. They thought the USSR had the right ideas, ignoring the fact that 18 million Russian civilians died, not from enemy action, but from the governments' own incompetence.

How could Attlee et al "ignore the example" of the postwar US economy when that was only just beginning and no one knew yet of the affluence that was in store? Besides, the GI Bill, the Interstate system, the progressive taxation that made it possible to pay for all that and more...those all meat the modern right-wing definition of "socialist" or even "communist" (though to be fair, they tend to apply those labels to absolutely everything they don't like).

 

[oggbashan]

How could Attlee et al "ignore the example" of the postwar US economy when that was only just beginning and no one knew yet of the affluence that was in store? Besides, the GI Bill, the Interstate system, the progressive taxation that made it possible to pay for all that and more...those all meat the modern right-wing definition of "socialist" or even "communist" (though to be fair, they tend to apply those labels to absolutely everything they don't like).

Attlee didn't ignore 'what was just beginning'. The average US worker was better paid and had a much better quality of life during the war than before it.

The US's manufacturing war effort was by competitive tendering and companies trying to outperform each other on price and quality. By comparison, the USSR massively overproduced tanks many of which were useless because of defects, at the expense of agriculture (many millions starved) and importantly for the war effort the supply chain to back the tanks. They survived and won with massive supplies of US (and to the lesser extent UK) made trucks and Jeeps and US Oil.

The Americans tried to tell Attlee, but he wouldn't (or couldn't) listen because of the Labour Party's principles.

 

[WillJ8787]

Noth Korea is not socialist. It is a corrupt regime run by a series of dictators.

For Socialism versus capitalism perhaps a better example is the UK post-1945 under a Labour Government. They thought state ownership of industries and a command economy was best, ignoring the example of the US during and after WW2 when the US economy prospered and workers earned more. They thought the USSR had the right ideas, ignoring the fact that 18 million Russian civilians died, not from enemy action, but from the governments' own incompetence.

Yes, it is one of the only places I know of where the endoctrinated are so thoroughly so that the citizens believe the leaders are descendants or gods or something like that. It isn't socialism or communism....it is authoritarian and dictatorial via a type of "Devine Right" that was.common in Europe 300 years ago.

 

[CornusKousa]

Yes, it is one of the only places I know of where the endoctrinated are so thoroughly so that the citizens believe the leaders are descendants or gods or something like that. It isn't socialism or communism....it is authoritarian and dictatorial via a type of "Devine Right" that was.common in Europe 300 years ago.

It's communism and it's still a socialist economy.

The western Maoist (you) DESPERATE need to pretend the most "progressive" nation on the planet is largely what they promote.

 

[WillJ8787]

It's communism and it's still a socialist economy.

The western Maoist (you) DESPERATE need to pretend the most "progressive" nation on the planet is largely what they promote.

You are a dipshit dude....you don't know anything because your uneducated and ignorant. Folks have been telling you this your entire life...it is time to listen to them.

 

[pecksniff]

In the 1970s, people in NK were eating better than in SK. But then NK's economic development hit a wall and SK's kept going.

Stalinism works -- within limits.

 

[WillJ8787]

In the 1970s, people in NK were eating better than in SK. But then NK's economic development hit a wall and SK's kept going.

Stalinism works -- within limits.

Some of those limits are external:

Sanctions and no trade with countries who's politics one doesn't agree with....The USA has long standing sanctions on many Countries and significant arm twisting influence on other countries to prevent trade with North Korea, Cuba, Russia and others.... ultimately, this hurts average citizens in these countries the most. Just saying.