Do Deplorables ever make threads that actually encourage critical thinking?

[RoryN]

Sometimes they'll feign an open question in in their titles, but the thread itself just ends up being another masturbatory exercise in justifying hatred, ignorance, and racism.

Can you post examples to the contrary?

Should we first agree on a set of standards for identifying a thread as one or the other?

 

[pecksniff]

"We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority."

—Republican Party of Texas 2012 platform

 

[LukSkyFokker]

They rarely read past the sensationalist headlines of their alt-right sites.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

You two do realize, do you not, that your latest pet ideology, Critical Race Theory, rejects the very idea of reason and logic, do you not?

 

[rae121452]

deplorables reading this thread while scratching their asses: "whut's critical thinking?"

 

[CornusKousa]

You two do realize, do you not, that your latest pet ideology, Critical Race Theory, rejects the very idea of reason and logic, do you not?

Critical theory and the leftist thought process in general do that.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

You two do realize, do you not, that your latest pet ideology, Critical Race Theory, rejects the very idea of reason and logic, do you not?

Have you seen anyone in this thread talking about CRT besides you? You have already used that wannabe silver bullet, dipshit.

 

[WillJ8787]

Sometimes they'll feign an open question in in their titles, but the thread itself just ends up being another masturbatory exercise in justifying hatred, ignorance, and racism.

Can you post examples to the contrary?

Should we first agree on a set of standards for identifying a thread as one or the other?

Nope

They are all anti-intellectual scat lovers

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Have you seen anyone in this thread talking about CRT besides you? You have already used that wannabe silver bullet, dipshit.

All of you leftist cretins have sprung the lengths of your chains defending CRT in multiple threads. You cannot possibly defend CRT and then crow about being a critical thinker...it's impossible.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

All of you leftist cretins have sprung the lengths of your chains defending CRT in multiple threads. You cannot possibly defend CRT and then crow about being a critical thinker...it's impossible.

Link to anyone doing what you just said. Proving that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about regarding CRT isn't defending CRT.

 

[pecksniff]

Critical theory and the leftist thought process in general do that.

The more usual criticism of leftist thought is that it is too rationalistic.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Link to anyone doing what you just said. Proving that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about regarding CRT isn't defending CRT.

No. You know it's true, especially for you. I'm not going to be an errand boy when the truth of what I said is manifest.

 

[Lazaran]

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There goes Pud again.

*nods*

 

[LukSkyFokker]

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There goes Pud again.

*nods*

Beating Dud down tho the nub isn't even gratifying anymore.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

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There goes Pud again.

*nods*

Yeah, let's all pretend you asswipes haven't spent the last two weeks defending CRT here. Noooo...you'd never do that.

What a laughable gaggle of idiots.

 

[innocntplay]

No, we encourage thought and solutions

Sometimes they'll feign an open question in in their titles, but the thread itself just ends up being another masturbatory exercise in justifying hatred, ignorance, and racism.

Can you post examples to the contrary?

Should we first agree on a set of standards for identifying a thread as one or the other?

Deplorables are not the name callers. We are looking for the solution to lead and preserve. We participate in open discussion not accusation.

 

[ll74]

This entire forum is just a bunch of shit posts. Rarely do people have interesting discussion about politics. I only join in because I enjoy shit posting from time to time.

For the most part, I hold onto certain posts to add to as I find something more interesting on the topic.

But hey...at least the right has forgotten about CRT....Fucker Carlton demanded we discuss vaccines

 

[LukSkyFokker]

Deplorables are not the name callers. We are looking for the solution to lead and preserve. We participate in open discussion not accusation.

You guys say that every Dem is a socialist who backs BLM and Antifa while selling babies from Hillary's pizza place.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

Quoted from James Lindsay:

Remember above, where Delgado and Stefancic said that “normal science” is a part of the everyday, ordinary racism of our societies? That’s because Critical Race Theory is not particularly friendly to science, residing somewhere between generally disinterested in science and openly hostile to it (often depending upon the circumstances). This is because Critical Race Theory, using that “social construction” thesis, believes that the power and politics of cultural groups make their way intrinsically into everything that culture produces. Thus, science is just politics by other means to Critical Race Theory.

Since modern science was predominantly produced by white, Western men, Critical Race Theory therefore views science as a white and Western “way of knowing.” Critical Race Theory therefore maintains that science encodes and perpetuates “white dominance” and thus isn’t really fitting for black people who inhabit a (political) culture of Blackness.

This is obviously a horrible sentiment, and it is one that goes against one of the very first pillars of science: universality. Universality in science says that it doesn’t matter who does an experiment; the result will always be the same. This is because science believes in objectivity, which Critical Race Theory also calls an oppressive myth. For example, Robin DiAngelo and Ozlem Sensoy write,

One of the key contributions of critical theorists concerns the production of knowledge. Given that the transmission of knowledge is an integral activity in schools, critical scholars in the field of education have been especially concerned with how knowledge is produced. These scholars argue that a key element of social injustice involves the claim that particular knowledge is objective, neutral, and universal. An approach based on critical theory calls into question the idea that objectivity is desirable or even possible. The term used to describe this way of thinking about knowledge is that knowledge is socially constructed. When we refer to knowledge as socially constructed we mean that knowledge is reflective of the values and interests of those who produce it. (p. 7)

Sensoy and DiAngelo also claim that science “presume superiority and infallibility of the scientific method” (p. 5) (by the way, this is false), and therefore we should be asking “whose rationality” and “whose presumed objectivity” underlies the scientific method. Then, even more cynically, they insist that we must ask whose interests are served by science, as though that’s the relevant question to ask of a universalist method. Critical Race Theory falsely asserts that white people’s interests are primarily served by science. This isn’t all just wrong (and genuinely racist!), it’s dangerous.

Continuing the genuinely racist thinking that black people aren’t suited to or served by science, Delgado and Stefancic say that storytelling about their “lived experience” is the primary mode by which black people and Critical Race Theory produce and advance knowledge. Importantly, these lived experiences are only considered valid if they agree with Critical Race Theory. They write,

Critical race theorists have built on everyday experiences with perspective, viewpoint, and the power of stories and persuasion to come to a better understanding of how Americans see race. They have written parables, autobiography, and “counterstories,” and have investigated the factual background and personalities, frequently ignored in the casebooks, of well-known cases. (p. 38)

While stories can be informative, to create a position that science is a “way of knowing” for white, Western people (especially men) and storytelling is one more suited to racial minorities, Critical Race Theory is itself racist (against racial minorities) and cripples the people it claims to help. This happens in multiple ways, including by undermining their capacity for critical thinking, teaching them to see the world in an us-versus-them way that oppresses them, and associating them with harmful, negative stereotypes that rigorous methods are what white people, and not black people, use.

 

[Lazaran]

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In Pud's case, "CRT" is an acronym for "Crazy Racist Trumptard".

The POS is obsessed with CRT.

JFC

 

[RoryN]

Deplorables...participate in open discussion

This is not a thread about "open discussion". This is a thread about critical thinking. You just demonstrated that you don't know the difference. (That's why you thought your comment was relevant.)

And it's a very important difference. When Deplorables answer "what you said isn't factual" with "but I have a right to my opinion!", it comes from this same mindset - which is a product of poor education.

Thank you for your response; very enlightening & revealing.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

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In Pud's case, "CRT" is an acronym for "Crazy Racist Trumptard".

The POS is obsessed with CRT.

JFC

You creeps can't leap to your feet fast enough to defend it.

And now we're going to hang it around your grimy necks.

 

[Lazaran]

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Crazy Racist Trumptard says what???

 

[Lazaran]

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Notice the words in Pud's comment???

"We're going to hang it around your grimy necks"

Hmmmmm

Crazy Racist Trumptard

*nods*

 

[Bud_Spencer]

What better example could I ask for of the evidence-free, reason-beret 'thinking" of the Left than Laz's mindless belches?